AEW Dynamite, AEW Rampage and its PPVs would generally have only one women's match or segment with some shows not having having any women's matches nor segments (there are a lot of women's matches on AEW Dark, however). Is it because that Tony Khan is a huge fan of WWE's Diva Era from 1999 to 2015?
Is Tony Khan stuck in the "Divas Era?"
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AEW Dynamite, AEW Rampage and its PPVs would generally have only one women's match or segment with some shows not having having any women's matches nor segments (there are a lot of women's matches on AEW Dark, however). Is it because that Tony Khan is a huge fan of WWE's Diva Era from 1999 to 2015?
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I haven't seen any bra/panties or rip off the evening gown first matches so I'll go with probably not. Seeing how Tony can't even get most of his male talent on the shows, it would be hard to get more women's wrestling on the show when the bulk of them struggle to cut a promo or have any semblance of a discernible character.
Came in here to say exactly that.
But perhaps he should have some of those matches involving girls who wants to do that kind of stuff.. Wouldn´t be a bad idea
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Tony thinks wrestling management is a game. He lacks of leadership. Moralty: Money is important to invest for this business. It doesn't work without leadership, though.
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Everyone apart from Paige VanZant and Jade Cargill is a trained wrestler with experience doing matches longer than five minutes. As far as I know Christopher Daniels hasn’t hired anyone without experience beyond PVZ and Jade. There are no beauty queens, lingerie or swimwear models with zero training on the roster.
The belt design for the Divas in WWE was rather…suggestive. It wouldn’t look out of place in an exhibition of Georgia O’Keefe paintings. The original and later generation title belts looked like more traditional title belts, if a bit undersized, that men or women could hold.
The AEW Women’s World Title is not booked that well. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t talent in the division. It also doesn’t mean that the women in AEW are half-trained Barbie dolls. The Divas’ division was practically a real life collection of Barbie Dolls. Each week Kevin Dunn, Vince McMahon and Johnny Ace literally played “Barbies” with real women by dressing or undressing them in all manner of PG Era fetish wear.
The two divisions being compared are almost nothing alike. TK just seems handcuffed creatively when he books the women’s division on Dynamite. He shows a bit more initiative when the ladies are booked on Dark, Dark Elevation, Rampage, Battle of the Belts and PPV.
It is pretty blatant. It almost has to be network enforced.
Some uptight or prudish old man or woman on the old overlords and/or WD channel fossils can’t stand to see attractive athletes women mess their hair and makeup. Just judging by this forum there are men and women that just have no interest in seeing the ladies more than one match each week. Whether they see these women break a sweat, break a nail or break their nose AEW feels intentionally restrained. We could describe a lot of TK’s booking as being restrained. The women are just ridiculously underdeveloped characters minus two noticeable exceptions.
AEW has established two alphas in Britt and Jade, respectively. They have had a number of minor characters getting shots at leading but it has only been fleeting in the execution. Britt and Jade are rationed almost all the breathable oxygen available allowed in the women’s division. The likes of Kris Statlander, Ruby Soho, Jamie Hayter, Toni Storm, Athena, Hikaru Shida, Mercedes Martinez, Tay Melo, Anna Jay, Serena Deeb and even former Champ Thunder Rosa are left to fill the the challenger roles with limited time slotted foo millimetres r the challenger. Even when Britt lost the title she still felt like the most important female in the division.
It would take very little to improve in this area. The fans cooked on Rosa a bit once she became champ. They changed the way Rosa was presented and it really took all the steam out of her title run.
The belt design for the Divas in WWE was rather…suggestive. It wouldn’t look out of place in an exhibition of Georgia O’Keefe paintings. The original and later generation title belts looked like more traditional title belts, if a bit undersized, that men or women could hold.
The AEW Women’s World Title is not booked that well. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t talent in the division. It also doesn’t mean that the women in AEW are half-trained Barbie dolls. The Divas’ division was practically a real life collection of Barbie Dolls. Each week Kevin Dunn, Vince McMahon and Johnny Ace literally played “Barbies” with real women by dressing or undressing them in all manner of PG Era fetish wear.
The two divisions being compared are almost nothing alike. TK just seems handcuffed creatively when he books the women’s division on Dynamite. He shows a bit more initiative when the ladies are booked on Dark, Dark Elevation, Rampage, Battle of the Belts and PPV.
It is pretty blatant. It almost has to be network enforced.
Some uptight or prudish old man or woman on the old overlords and/or WD channel fossils can’t stand to see attractive athletes women mess their hair and makeup. Just judging by this forum there are men and women that just have no interest in seeing the ladies more than one match each week. Whether they see these women break a sweat, break a nail or break their nose AEW feels intentionally restrained. We could describe a lot of TK’s booking as being restrained. The women are just ridiculously underdeveloped characters minus two noticeable exceptions.
AEW has established two alphas in Britt and Jade, respectively. They have had a number of minor characters getting shots at leading but it has only been fleeting in the execution. Britt and Jade are rationed almost all the breathable oxygen available allowed in the women’s division. The likes of Kris Statlander, Ruby Soho, Jamie Hayter, Toni Storm, Athena, Hikaru Shida, Mercedes Martinez, Tay Melo, Anna Jay, Serena Deeb and even former Champ Thunder Rosa are left to fill the the challenger roles with limited time slotted foo millimetres r the challenger. Even when Britt lost the title she still felt like the most important female in the division.
It would take very little to improve in this area. The fans cooked on Rosa a bit once she became champ. They changed the way Rosa was presented and it really took all the steam out of her title run.
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The divas era had way better talent the the revolution era or pc era or whatever they call the current one.
He told on himself a few weeks ago when he said he does what he does for ratings when asked why Thunder Rosa only got 45 seconds to announce an interim women's champion when Punk got 20 minutes. He's too stupid to realize that he's creating a self-fulfilling prophecy by literally telling his audience that there's no reason to care about the women and he's only putting them on the show as an obligation.
I think you're stuck in the Divas Era.
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Cocaine was still pretty popular in the 90s. I'd say crack was an 80s thing.
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😆😂🤣 Which one were you? User or supplier?
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Women's wrestling sucks in general so no era was better than the other one.
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AEW is a hobby for him. He uses daddy's money to buy his favorite toy train set that he caouldn't have when he was a kid
90% of the woman are piss break opportunities....tk said and did the right thing punk deserves more time
The PPVs do not have one women's match anymore (except Forbidden Door), even if it means putting a match on the show that just adds filler. All Out had two, DoN had three plus one mixed match, Revolution had two.
But let's be honest, the women have done little to show they deserve more time on TV. After three years, they still have very few compelling female talents. 8 out of 10 matches (upgraded from 9 out of 10 thanks to matches being better laid out lately) are basic and amateur-looking with no interest from fans. When some good male talents aren't getting on TV, why would you shoehorn more women on to already crowded shows? That segment with Saraya bringing out the depleted babyface roster of women said a lot.
If doesn't help obviously that there is a much smaller pool of talent to draw from than the men and that WWE had many of them signed before AEW was even a thing. The fact that Jamie Hayter is getting organic chants from the fans means they have finally stumbled upon something there.
MOST of the stopwatch complainers come from a sector of fans who don't put their money where their mouth is. If you went by Twitter, you'd have been forgiven in thinking last year's all-women PPV, NWA EmPowerr (supported by AEW), was going to be a multi-million dollar success. It did 3,500 PPV/streaming buys and Billy Corgan refused to do a second this year.
Also, I don't think TK is a fan of the divas era. I think he begrudgingly has women's wrestling on his product full stop. Most of his favourite promotions in the past had few to no women wrestling on them. Personally, when I watch Stardom then watch most AEW and WWE women's wrestling (with some exceptions), it's like going from watching Goodfellas to some low budget zombie flick directed by Uwe Boll.
But let's be honest, the women have done little to show they deserve more time on TV. After three years, they still have very few compelling female talents. 8 out of 10 matches (upgraded from 9 out of 10 thanks to matches being better laid out lately) are basic and amateur-looking with no interest from fans. When some good male talents aren't getting on TV, why would you shoehorn more women on to already crowded shows? That segment with Saraya bringing out the depleted babyface roster of women said a lot.
If doesn't help obviously that there is a much smaller pool of talent to draw from than the men and that WWE had many of them signed before AEW was even a thing. The fact that Jamie Hayter is getting organic chants from the fans means they have finally stumbled upon something there.
MOST of the stopwatch complainers come from a sector of fans who don't put their money where their mouth is. If you went by Twitter, you'd have been forgiven in thinking last year's all-women PPV, NWA EmPowerr (supported by AEW), was going to be a multi-million dollar success. It did 3,500 PPV/streaming buys and Billy Corgan refused to do a second this year.
Also, I don't think TK is a fan of the divas era. I think he begrudgingly has women's wrestling on his product full stop. Most of his favourite promotions in the past had few to no women wrestling on them. Personally, when I watch Stardom then watch most AEW and WWE women's wrestling (with some exceptions), it's like going from watching Goodfellas to some low budget zombie flick directed by Uwe Boll.
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They have very few interesting woman's wrestlers in AEW.
Ember Moon, Ruby, Paige, Storm are all playing the same 'we're finally getting a chance now that we aren't in wwe" character and its just tiring.
Serena Deeb is the lance storm "I can rassle but have no personality" gimmick which is already done by 15 other dudes on the roster.
Thunder Rosa is just Mexican. There's nothing the viewer sees that would understand who Thunder Rosa is outside of her heritage. AEW desperately needs to find ways to get the audience to know more about her and they need to protect her image. Shes great in the ring and has an incredible look but shes made to look like such a scrub in AEW. You have girls not cooperating, you have your biggest name publicly calling her out for sandbagging and you have your women's champion implying that shes faking an injury at a press conference.
Baker is solid but she buries everyone she's in a feud with whether it be on the mic trying to be a smark or by just having a sloppy match with them.
The storylines haven't been very good either. Whats the last memorable storyline a woman in AEW has had? Have they had one?
There's some potential with Jade, Hayter, Conti, Anna Jay, Thunder Rosa and Baker but there's so much going on that none of them are really getting anywhere. AEW needs a direction and the division needs a leader. Get a writer who knows women, has written for women and can write some storylines that aren't completely garbage.
Ember Moon, Ruby, Paige, Storm are all playing the same 'we're finally getting a chance now that we aren't in wwe" character and its just tiring.
Serena Deeb is the lance storm "I can rassle but have no personality" gimmick which is already done by 15 other dudes on the roster.
Thunder Rosa is just Mexican. There's nothing the viewer sees that would understand who Thunder Rosa is outside of her heritage. AEW desperately needs to find ways to get the audience to know more about her and they need to protect her image. Shes great in the ring and has an incredible look but shes made to look like such a scrub in AEW. You have girls not cooperating, you have your biggest name publicly calling her out for sandbagging and you have your women's champion implying that shes faking an injury at a press conference.
Baker is solid but she buries everyone she's in a feud with whether it be on the mic trying to be a smark or by just having a sloppy match with them.
The storylines haven't been very good either. Whats the last memorable storyline a woman in AEW has had? Have they had one?
There's some potential with Jade, Hayter, Conti, Anna Jay, Thunder Rosa and Baker but there's so much going on that none of them are really getting anywhere. AEW needs a direction and the division needs a leader. Get a writer who knows women, has written for women and can write some storylines that aren't completely garbage.
Yes and not just the Divas era but that time entirely!
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