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Why isn't Edge considered one of the Greatest of all time?

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#1 ·
Looking back at his career i can't think of anyone who had more title reigns than him.
Not to mention he had the look, could talk on the mic and was solid in the ring.

He accomplished more in his career than anyone else i can think of, so why doesn't his name come up more in the GOAT discussion?
 
#2 ·
He is one of the greatest but it's just that are a lot more guys who are just greater than he is and more worthy of the GOAT title.
 
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#4 ·
He will be eventually , give it time... looking back the 2000-2009 decade, he is a top 5 guy along with Cena, Angle, Triple H, and AJ Styles. ( I'd put him #2 behind Angle)
-All the title he could have won, he won them...
-Great heel runs
-Many shocking moments
-Many classic matches( he has the most ****1/2+ matches from that decade alongside Angle and Benoit)
-He basically proved he could carry a show, he carried SD for idk how many years, people act if he wasn't " worthy enough" of being on RAW, I think he was there on SD to carry the show,they needed someone that could do it,he was the reason to watch, look what happened to SD after he retired..

Plus, I love the fact how he earned his way to the top, he worked hard for many years, he didn't have everything handed to him because he knew guys "backstage"..
 
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#7 ·
Edge was a great talent, no doubt about it but goat, no.

Edge was a great heel, his act with lita was super hot. I was never big on his partnership with Vickie. One thing that maybe hurts him is for a long time he was on smack down. He did some great stuff but smack down isn't as widely watched is raw so a large portion of that audience missed out on some of edge's greatness those years.

It's similar to punk, the straight edge society was easily the hottest thing in wwe period. But it was limited by being on the b show.

And how cena eclipsed Batista when they switched shows, despite the fact at that time, Batista was a hotter act.
 
#9 ·
He is one of my favourites but he isn't classed as GOAT os one of them because...

- a lot of his reigns were forgettable and very short
- he was around when cena,trips,shawn,taker were still doing their thfing and couldn't really stand out as much as those guys.
-he was never a big draw. That doesn't matter to me and I hate when people define someone based on whether they could sell tickets or not but its a fact that when you list austin,hogan, rock even cena etc.. A lot of people were there see them. With Edge it seems like the fans paid to see the show and edge was a nice bonus.

That's just my opinion
 
#10 ·
He is one of my favourites but he isn't classed as GOAT os one of them because...

- a lot of his reigns were forgettable and very short
- he was around when cena,trips,shawn,taker were still doing their thfing and couldn't really stand out as much as those guys.
-he was never a big draw. That doesn't matter to me and I hate when people define someone based on whether they could sell tickets or not but its a fact that when you list austin,hogan, rock even cena etc.. A lot of people were there see them. With Edge it seems like the fans paid to see the show and edge was a nice bonus.

That's just my opinion
I use it more as an indicator of someone's accomplishments in the kayfabe "sport" it still matters for something in these discussions because it's an objective point compared to "O well I enjoyed his in ring work" which is quite objective
 
#11 ·
He was often overshadowed even in his own era. I don't think you could say he was ever THE top guy. All his title reigns were of a transitional/placeholder variety.

But I am an Edgehead. He won boatloads of titles, starred in the famous TLC matches, had a relatively long career in bigtime wrestling, was successful in a variety of roles, had a bunch of good/famous matches, and was generally entertaining. He'd probably just crack my Top 20. Probably somewhere between Jericho & Eddie.
 
#13 · (Edited)
Quite simply put, because he isn't one of the greatest of all time.

Title reigns don't factor in, it's a simulated sport, more often than not title reigns are about circumstance and Edge's 10 rather short reigns are evidence of that. Did he deserve the title once, maybe twice? Absolutely. He was arguably the best heel in the company in 2006 and even Cena himself said that Edge elevated him to a new level that he hadn't been able to reach, but that doesn't make you one of the greatest of all time. He was at the top of the card in an era where star power was on the decline and they needed someone to fill that spot, he did a fantastic job in doing so, but in a roster rich attitude era he was the tag-team high spot stuntman, nothing much more.

I think the best way to describe Edge is a well rounded wrestler but definitely not top tier. He had the look, he was a good microphone worker, he was good in the ring, but he never really excelled in any aspect of it and that's what you look for in the "greatest of all time". He was solid, he just wasn't excellent.

I'm a huge Edge fan by the way, so this isn't a post bashing him, it's just honesty.
 
#14 ·
I'm a fan of his but in all honestly he isnt in the top 50 of all time. As mentioned too many forgettable reigns and he just didn't seem to have that presence that a lot of top guys had.
 
#16 · (Edited)
From the reasoning of some people you'd think Orton, Batista or Lesnar deserve a higher place on the GOAT list than Edge.

I guess that's what you get when you're stuck having to carry the B show. People even seem to rank him average on the mic and in the ring, when he was obviously great in those areas.
It would have been cool for WWE to keep each brand its own PPVs, would have loved to see how well the SD PPVs would have done with Edge as the draw.

Also I don't get why being a part of one of the greatest tag teams and couples of all times don't factor in one being one of the GOAT, he excelled at everything the WWE threw at him.

Edit: I think if he would have stuck around for a few more years bragging about how he's a legend and all winning a few more stuff would have made him more important, his 13 year career was kinda short..
although he did accomplish everything he could ( KOTR, RR, MITB, All WWE title, WM Main event)
 
#17 ·
From the reasoning of some people you'd think Orton, Batista or Lesnar deserve a higher place on the GOAT list than Edge.

I guess that's what you get when you're stuck having to carry the B show. People even seem to rank him average on the mic and in the ring, when he was obviously great in those areas.
It would have been cool for WWE to keep each brand its own PPVs, would have loved to see how well the SD PPVs would have done with Edge as the draw.

Also I don't get why being a part of one of the greatest tag teams and couples of all times don't factor in one being one of the GOAT, he excelled at everything the WWE threw at him.
Exactly, every wrestler has his or her detractors, Edge is one the greatest of all time 11 time tag team champ multiple time Intercontinental World Heavy Weight & WWE Champion and 1 time United States Champion, He's a Royal Rumble Winner He's responsible along with Lita for one the the biggest ratings in RAW history and of course was apart of the one of the greatest tag teams of all time.


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#20 ·
He is one of the greatest lol. I think the announcers let us know that every time we've heard of him since like 2011.
 
#22 ·
if Edge is not goat ,than Daniel Bryan will never be considered one greatest all time.Because Edge >>>> Daniel Bryan
 
#23 ·
I think Edge is easily in the top 50, but one of the greatest no I think its lack of leaving at his peak. That injury shorten his career. If anything Edge was hot when he became the Rated-R superstar, but like I said he had to retire at his peak he had so many more feuds to do.
 
#27 ·
It's a little early to look back on his career and say it's a GOAT career, but it probably will be referred to as that in a few years to come, if only because he wont come back and compromise it.

And his legacy is already being treated well, he got the HoF bloody quick and just general good treatment.
 
#28 ·
Because he isn't. Not even close to GOAT status in a single category, be it charisma, mic skills, ring skills or marketability. Only the few Elite ones get the right to enter GOAT status.
 
#55 ·
You must be joking, have you not seen his massive list of achievements!? If you don't like the guy then that's fine but otherwise your just trolling because there's no way anyone looking back at Edge's career can say that with a straight face.
11 title reigns in 3 years on Smackdown hardly is GOAT status as a singles wrestler. If anything it hurt the prestige of the titles more than it helped them. The company needed a number 2 guy behind Cena and he was there.



So being a 11 time tag team champion putting on great TLC matches 2 at wrestlemania and then having a goat event career with one headlining a wrestlemania with the undertaker isn't being a great through out his career!? You haters are a complete joke
He deserves to be mentioned in a GOAT tag team conversation. Definitely top 10 and possibly top 5.
So Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit aren't goats because they died early!?
Neither one of them are even close to GOAT either.. Face it, if you aren't even a lock for greatest of your own time than GOAT is out of the question
Same with Shawn Bret etc, only Hogan Austin and Rock changed the business like that
The WWE would have went out of business if not for Shawn and Bret keeping it afloat. Both of these guys have had more important quality matches than Edge has ever had. IMO, both Shawn and Bret only are GOAT if you are looking at talent alone. If drawing power and impact on the industry are factored in then they are top 15.

Well he drew more than cena ever did
Now this seems like trolling. Cena draws more in one year than Edge did he is entire career.