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Re: Triple H is probably the biggest piece of shit in the history of wrestling busine

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Re: Triple H is probably the biggest piece of shit in the history of wrestling busine

Aside from the part about Stephanie, there's enough to take from what we saw on TV that supports his claims, right? The stuff about burying Punk, Jericho, RVD, Kane, and Booker all seem believable and logical from how the feuds with those guys went. I'm a Triple H fan, but does Holly have any reason to just fabricate bullshit for the sake of his book? I've seen other excerpts from the book, as well as shoot interviews from Holly and he doesn't come across as bitter or just airing bullshit stories and saying he should have been WWE Champ for the sake of getting attention. He seems like an honest guy, content with the success he had giving his realistic opinions on the matters.
 
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I've said this before and I'll say it again, draws can get away with being assholes because they are fucking draws.

Guys like hunter and hogan and flair and Shawn and Nash making political moves to better themselves never bothered me because guess what if your in the top spot your going to be a shot caller and just as long as you do your part and fill the arenas and put on the best show you can who really gives a fuck.

There are perks that come with being the man. You can be a drunk, drugged up, lazy, selfish, spotlight hogging piece of shit that only helps his friends and you can get away with it because your the top dog and nobody's gonna fuck with you.

Hunter was a shark, guess what? This is a business where everybody is scratching and fighting for bigger spots, more tv time, and bigger money. Of course the top guys are going to be cut throat mercenaries.
 
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Triple H did what everyone else did to get to that top spot, I don't know why Trips gets heat for it but everyone else gets a pass. I don't know him personally, but I'm sure he's not as evil and vindictive in real-life as people make him out to be.
 
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Oh, please.

everything goes back to what Hunter wants. It’s all a game to him.
LOL!

He wasn’t satisfied just being in the business. He wanted a lot more and he set out to get it. This is just my perspective after seeing how everything played out backstage, mind you. Vince liked him, he ended up doing an angle in which he married the boss’s daughter, and when she started to have real feelings for him, what do you think he was going to do? I’m surehe does genuinely love her now but I’m not sure how genuine he was with her at the very beginning. I think he was in love with the business and saw it as his way to the top of the industry. He’s a smart fucker. He’s both good and bad for business.
Okay, it's not a bad thing.

He’s a great wrestler who knows what to do in the ring. I recently watched one of my matches against him from back in the Attitude era and it reminded me of just how good he is. He was always very gracious to me in the ring, very unselfish, and that’s because he understands how wrestling works, but he bases too many of his backstage decisions on how he feels about somebody. Vince bases his decisions on how much money he could make from a person or a situation; that’s the difference.
Vince buried Morrison because of Melina... Can anyone tell Vince is a robot that always does right?

I want to like the guy — I really do. He’s great in the ring, nice to your face and fun to be around, but it’s hard to like him when you know about all of his backstage maneuvering and how he’s screwed with people’s lives. Hunter has buried many a good worker just because he didn’t like the guy. He nearly killed Cena right from the get go. When you think that Cena has been the company’s biggest cash cow for the last decade, it shows you how much Hunter knew about that deal.

He always buried Jericho, he nearly got him fired. So many guys could have been a lot more than they ended up being. Kane, Booker, RVD — all buried by Hunter. Rob Van Dam could have been huge. CM Punk is one of the top guys now but he could have been the guy. Even though Hunter never liked him, they had no choice but to go with Punk because he got over. You’ll notice that Hunter made sure to go over on him though, to make sure everybody knew Punk wasn’t on Hunter’s level. Where's the sense in that? It just took away Punk’s momentum when he was the hottest thing going. Punk could have made so much more money for the business if Hunter had the balls to put him over.
He buried Kane? Oh, God...

Bret Hart hit the nail on the head when he said that Hunter tries to keep all of the money for his cronies. When they started up D-Generation X again in 2006, Billy, Road Dogg, and X-Pac wanted to come back in but Hunter put the kibosh on that. He wanted to keep it to just him and Shawn so that they could split the merchandise royalties
two ways rather than five.
It's weird when it comes from Bret, who wanted to own his gimmick and always worried about his paychecks. It's a job, you know.

Consider this — in 2011, Hunter came back after a year out. Hi's first match was the second biggest match at ’Mania, against Undertaker. Then he wrestled a couple of matches, buried Punk, got a main event against his buddy Nash — who has no business being in the ring anymore — and came back again just in time for another huge payday at 2012’s ’Mania, against Undertaker again. His next match after that was the main event of SummerSlam against Brock Lesnar. Once again, a big money spot. Some of
the other boys are struggling and could have used that money and the exposure of wrestling guys like ’Taker and Brock. Hunter doesn’t need those paychecks, and the business doesn’t gain from him being in those matches. He keeps people down so that they can’t achieve success and make money for their families. It’s a real shame he feels the need to do that.
Those were great matches, and also, wrestling doesn't work like that. It's not like "Oh, this man's having hard time, let's give him a push so he can use the money".

It's a business.

And as people said, at least Hunter didn't sandbeg moves and ended up with a broken neck because of it.
 
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Bob Holly is generally known as one of the biggest backstage pieces of shit to ever foul a WWE locker room, so I think this is a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Yeah, by people who have never stepped foot in a WWE locker room.
 
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I like how everyone turns it on Holly. How many guys from the industry have to come out and say HHH is a scum bag before you stop defending him?
Personally, I don't really doubt how much of a dick HHH was and is, but Hardcore Holly calling anyone else out on their negative behaviour is something amazing.
 
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3 things

#1 This really isnt that bad compared to alot of what we have heard about a lot of wrestlers.

#2 Honestly, i think HHH does do what's best for business. Look at the list of burials there, if RVD had go t bigger he'd just have got suspended for wellness anyway, Carlito was known as a dick no-one wanted to work with, the rest of DX other than Shawn were all messes than with drugs/drink etc.

#3 people just love hating on HHH for burying people cause its easy. Pretty sure he's made more stars than anyone
 
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I keep seeing this stuff where people say "Nobody liked Bob Holly backstage because he beat up the guy from Tough Enough", I've seen A LOT of shoots on this topic and I've never seen a wrestler bad mouth him for that, most of the time they actually gave him praise. I think the point Bob was trying to show was that the business can be VERY tough, and it looked like that Matt Capotelli guy wanted to quit because of it. This type of stuff happens way more often than you'd think in wrestling.

As for HHH, everyone that gets power abuses it, but HHH has far far more power than the people in this thread that he's compared to like Hogan, Flair, Shawn Michaels - HHH is the guy that can decide if they can come back or not. Holly is stating that HHH will bury people that can potentially make business much much better simply because he doesn't like them, something Vince had the foresight to not do (perhaps not all the time, but enough), and that's probably why the WWE has been in a decline.
 
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Considering New Jack behaves like the anti-christ, I firmly believe he gets the title of biggest piece of shit in the history of the business.
 
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"He always buried Jericho, he nearly got him fired. So many guys could have been a lot more than they ended up being. Kane, Booker, RVD — all buried by Hunter. Rob Van Dam could have been huge. CM Punk is one of the top guys now but he could have been the guy. Even though Hunter never liked him, they had no choice but to go with Punk because he got over. You’ll notice that Hunter made sure to go over on him though, to make sure everybody knew Punk wasn’t on Hunter’s level. Where's the sense in that? It just took away Punk’s momentum when he was the hottest thing going. Punk could have made so much more money for the business if Hunter had the balls to put him over.

Bret Hart hit the nail on the head when he said that Hunter tries to keep all of the money for his cronies. When they started up D-Generation X again in 2006, Billy, Road Dogg, and X-Pac wanted to come back in but Hunter put the kibosh on that. He wanted to keep it to just him and Shawn so that they could split the merchandise royalties
two ways rather than five.

Consider this — in 2011, Hunter came back after a year out. Hi's first match was the second biggest match at ’Mania, against Undertaker. Then he wrestled a couple of matches, buried Punk, got a main event against his buddy Nash — who has no business being in the ring anymore — and came back again just in time for another huge payday at 2012’s ’Mania, against Undertaker again. His next match after that was the main event of SummerSlam against Brock Lesnar. Once again, a big money spot. Some ofthe other boys are struggling and could have used that money and the exposure of wrestling guys like ’Taker and Brock. Hunter doesn’t need those paychecks, and the business doesn’t gain from him being in those matches. He keeps people down so that they can’t achieve success and make money for their families. It’s a real shame he feels the need to do that."

True true true and true.
 
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Re: Triple H is probably the biggest piece of shit in the history of wrestling busine

funny how people said that Holly sandbagged Lesnar when he clearly says in his book that it was clearly a bad timing thing and Brock felt very sorry for him and apologized but Holly said that he doesn't need to worry. And for people saying that he was a scum again I say go and read his book and the stories with Kennedy, Puder and Dupree and see who were the dicks. I don't say that the guy was perfect but he gets too many negative opinions from the IWC when he shouldn't.
 
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funny how people said that Holly sandbagged Lesnar when he clearly says in his book that it was clearly a bad timing thing and Brock felt very sorry for him and apologized but Holly said that he doesn't need to worry. And for people saying that he was a scum again I say go and read his book and the stories with Kennedy, Puder and Dupree and see who were the dicks. I don't say that the guy was perfect but he gets too many negative opinions from the IWC when he shouldn't.
Oh yeah read hardcore hollys book.......he doesnt make up storys or make himself look better.......better think before you write something.
 
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Funny seeing Hunter fans try to dispute this when Jericho and RVD confirmed countless times that Hunter tried to derail their pushes.
 
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Lol all these marks thinking they know HHH more then the guy who actually worked in the same company with the guy for over ten years.

I'll take Holly's word over marks.
 
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Bob Holly is generally known as one of the biggest backstage pieces of shit to ever foul a WWE locker room, so I think this is a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black.
You can't shit a shitter. Holly is a dickhead and he knows one where he sees one, thus this criticism is probably more spot-on than most. Two people who don't see eye-to-eye realize it right away; it's like staring into a mirror and hating the reflection you see of yourself.
 
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