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The Most Heel/Face Turns in History? My guess at a top ten.

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#1 · (Edited)
So with Kevin Owens becoming a main event face again?????

I thought maybe I would ask this question again.

My question is: What wrestler has the most historical face/heel turns?


My thoughts....

1. Bill Dundee. He wrestled in primarily one territory his whole life, he had to flip to stay fresh, he did it often. I think I counted one time and it was like 30 something the times he turned.
2. The Giant/ Big Show: I still have no idea how many times the WWE turned him
3. Jerry Lawler: Same as above, career longevity comes into play here
4. Austin Idol: Another old school territory wrestler who spent about half of his career on either side.
5: Paul Orndorff: Spent most of his early career as a face but then switched back and forth.
6. Ric Flair: Flair skirted the babyface/heel divide often. More often a heel but more often cheered as a baby.
7. Randy Orton: While relatively young compared to others on this list he has been the victim of multiple turns.
8. Roddy Piper: He actually turned more often than folks remember during his entire career.
9. Micheal Hayes: The head Freebird probably had a double digit count as a face/heel, over his long career
10. Sid Vicious: Let's include his non WWF carrer, which would be Memphis, and WCW.
 
#2 · (Edited)
What about Kane? From what I could find he had 26 turns, more if you count all Glen Jacobs characters and not only Kane :)

Otjer candidates might be Sean Waltman and Edge? I seem to remember Waltman turning a lot once he abandoned the 123 kid gimmick, and Edge turned a lot to fill whatever role he was needed in. He's already been face-heel-face in his current run.
 
#4 ·
Big Show has to be at the top of this list. WWE turned him literally every other week.
 
#10 ·
In history, the greatest heel turn is only 1. Hogan turning heel and forming the nWo at Bash at the Beach. It was the most historic and changed the very landscape of the wrestling business. It's still being talked about to this very day. No other turn had that kind of impact.

In recent times, the best one that I saw was when Jericho turned face (Festival of Friendship). Perfectly executed and had 0 to do with WWE creative (it was all Jericho).
 
#17 ·
8. Roddy Piper: He actually turned more often than folks remember during his entire career.
As I recall, he was a babyface for about fifteen years after his first heel run with WWF.


It's also pretty difficult for some wrestlers during the Russo era, as everything was so convoluted and weird, with wrestlers sometimes turning face to heel and back within just 1 show. There's a lot of stuff that would takes hours to go through and analyze
This was one of the big problems in the more chaotically booked years of the Monday Night Wars, particularly with shows written by Russo but also at pre-Russo WCW when they added Thunder to their weekly TV schedule. One of the big problems with the New World Order storyline, most specifically once Hogan-Sting had had their big payoff match and WCW had launched Thunder was just how tricky it was to follow the motivations of guys joining/leaving the group. I can look at the entirety of Bret's two years and change there and even with twenty years of hindsight, everything seems thrown together and I have no idea what the character's ultimate goal and allegiance was. Contrasted with his final year in the WWF where you can see what he is aiming for as a character. Similar problems with the storytelling with Sting, The Giant, and even Nash.
 
#18 · (Edited)
As I recall, he was a babyface for about fifteen years after his first heel run with WWF.
He had a career before WWF. California, Portand, Georgia, where he turned multiple times. You repeated my original point for me. His first heel run in WWF makes folks feel he rarely turned.

So he probably had 10 turns career wide. That's probably not top ten worthy, but not to be dismissed. I am not dissmissing your critic, I probably should not have him in here.

I mean there are easily territory performers who turned more. But that gets into the realm of "wrestlers who matter" turning.
 
#19 ·
Big Show had his fair share of turns as The Giant in WCW.

Started as a heel. Following this, he Switched back and forth each week, depending on who he was facing. Was in the Dungeon and out of the Dungeon at random. Was a face in his title match vs Hogan. Stayed face post losing the title, before turning heel and joining the NWO. He is then kicked out of the NWO and turns face again. This is only documenting the first year and a half of his career.

but, Show is a awesome heel and an awesome Babyface, so it didn’t matter what he was, he was great.