Like I said in the closed thread, I've lost count how many TRUMP threads there have been.
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He has taken credit for an economy that Obama built numerous times. That also means by default he has to take credit for a potential recession. You can't have it both ways. Presidents have always taken credit or blame for either a good or bad economy. You can't make an exception for him simply because you favor him and buy into his no personal accountability, always blame someone else mindset.
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Can't it go the other way too?? Those who say it's an Obama economy and trump has nothing to do with it or he's just riding obamas coat tails...if it's obamas economy, wouldn't it be on him if it tanks?
Either way, it seems like for conservatives it's trumps work why the economy is so good but the democrats fault when it tanks and for the democrats it's obamas work that the economy is doing so good and trumps fault it tanks.
I don't view it that way. Because Trump has taken actions that may have an adverse effect on the economy. Therefore he has to own it.
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So do you think he's done anything good for the economy?? Even if it's just for right now?? Or is all the good Obama and all the bad trump?
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Trumps first year was still under Obama's economy, once Trump starting making policies and putting them into place it became his, and that was around the start of Trump's second term when the effects started being felt
we are not seeing the huge effects and Trumps tax cuts for the rich and like I said would happen the economy is starting to crash.
I haven't seen anything that will be beneficial to the economy. The things that people praise seem like short term gains that can turn into long term issues.
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what do you mean tax cuts for the rich? Is it the tax cut was ONLY for the rich or the rich benefited more bc of it?
And again, you and I go thru this every time, why would you neg me for asking a question?? And please come with something better than your standard "you were defending trump" douchey reason. And if that's all you can come up with then your reading comprehension is worse than I actually thought.
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The tax cuts were only to benefit the rich at the expense of tanking the economy.
As for your other question because you make stupid trolly comments like "Those who say it's Obama economy and Trump has nothing to do with it or he's just riding Obama's coat tails...if it's Obama's economy, wouldn't it be on him if it tanks? "
How would it be Obama's fault two years into Trump's term when Trump's policies are ruining the economy? Trump was trying to take credit for the economy just a few months into his presidency before he did anything. Its a troll comment to try and blame Obama at this point.
Obama is the one who got the economy back on track if it takes a turn for the worst its all on Trump, it's stupid to claim its Obamas fault. Its just like with unemployment, Obama is the one who got it to record lows, going lower and lower. Because of Trump sure its still going down but it has slowed, and that is on Trump and if it starts to go back up again that is Trump's fault but you would make a troll comment trying to blame Obama
Obama got the economy and unemployment back on track that is why he gets most of the credit. Especially for the first 6 months to a year under Trump's first term because it takes about a year for Trump's policies and actions to feel the effects. that is why its a joke for Trump to try to take any credit for the stuff that happened early on. Trump is at the end of his 2nd year, everything is now on him, if he can sustpain the good economy and unemployment Obama gave us, or if he tanks it which is what he is doing.
Asking oh wouldn't it be Obama's fault if all the good he did goes bad because Trump undid everything Obama did, is just trolling, unless you really are that uninformed how thins work
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So the tax cuts were put in to help the rich 1-2 years in the future bc the economy isn't tanking, yet anyways? And you know the middle class got helped bc of those cuts as well. I see extra money in my check every month bc of these cuts.
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No. As the President, he should be able to tell when improvements are needed to the economy and when there are signs of trouble. If he ignores signs of a recession, that's on him.
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That's what you got out of what I said?
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The middle class did not get helped in the tax cuts. You really are that uninformed arent you. The middle class got an average of 2 cents in their paychecks each week. Do you call that help? And yes the economy is starting to tank, are you really ignoring all these crashes the stock market is having? It just had the worst December in decades.
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Okay I’m lost here. Obama INCREASED our national deficit, how in the world is that considered helping us?
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I fall into our middle class and I got way more than 2 cents per week, as did everyone I work with, maybe I/we are an exception. Crashes?? Bit dramatic for a few big dips isn't it?? Maybe it did have the worse December in history but wasn't there a day that saw a 1,000 point gain?? Either way it's still higher than when trump took over...I'll worry a little if it dips below 20,000 (which is where it was at the start of trumps second year) and worry more when it dips below 16,500 which is where it was when Obama left.
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From Forbes
The first thing you notice when looking at the federal deficits from fiscal 2007 (the U.S. government fiscal year ends in September) is that it increased by almost $1 trillion from fiscal 2008 (two months before Obama was elected and four months before he was sworn in) to fiscal 2009. It remained over $1 trillion per year for four years and got below Bush’s last years deficit in fiscal 2015. It continued to decrease until Obama’s last year and has increased in Trump’s first year in office.
Fiscal 2007: $161 billion (next to last year of Bush’s second term)
Fiscal 2008: $459 billion (beginning impact from the Great Recession)
Fiscal 2009: $1.4 trillion (Obama’s first year and in the teeth of the Recession)
Fiscal 2010: $1.3 trillion
Fiscal 2011: $1.3 trillion
Fiscal 2012: $1.1 trillion
Fiscal 2013: $680 billion
Fiscal 2014: $485 billion
Fiscal 2015: $438 billion
Fiscal 2016: $587 billion
Fiscal 2017: $666 billion (Trump’s first year of his Presidency)
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It is clear that the almost $1 trillion jump between fiscal 2008 and 2009 was due to the Great Recession. Tax receipts fell, expenditures rose and Obama and Congress passed the American Economy and Reinvestment Act to combat the recession.
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Get out stat!! I got sucked into his vortex and wasn't even talking to him.
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...it got us out of a recession, that's how.
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You do know what average means right?
You are kidding, right? In Feb the Dow dropped 1600 points, the biggest drop ever, then in Oct it dropped over 800 points, the 3rd biggest drop ever, then it dropped 653 points on xmas eve for its worst xmas eve drop ever. Serious dude, do you ever do any research? Those are not dips when they are some of the biggest crashes ever, all in this one year and I just named three. And its only going to keep crashing.
And sure it gained 1,000 points in one day because all the CEOs were trying to buy low after the crash just days before
the volatile stock market going up and down shows how bad the economy is. Not to mention it's in a bear market.
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Well you said it didn't help the middle class, I was telling you it did so you're wrong there. You may be right about the avg but you aren't right saying it didn't help the middle class bc it helped a lot of us. Maybe bc we are public sector not private so the trickle down doesn't effect us, though I know guys in the private sector who are singing trumps praises bc of all the money they are making, not on stocks, but they are probably considered upper class.
Either way I got the answer to the question I asked, that this is all trumps fault and Obama has nothing to do with the negative drop the stock market is about to take. Just out of curiosity let's say something happens and the market climbs over the next year, can trump get some credit if that happens?? Just to be fair if it drops below say 18,000 I'll come back and say it's trumps fault and he should do something else.
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I'm not sure if printing more money and extending the credit line of our debt is really "helping".
This Syria stuff is great, so many warmongering buffoons trying to ensure we have endless War.
There is going to be some major false flag attack soon I bet!
This Syria stuff is great, so many warmongering buffoons trying to ensure we have endless War.
There is going to be some major false flag attack soon I bet!
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