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Re: Official Premier League ~ FA Cup ~ Carling Cup ~ Discussion Thread 11/12 Season

Sneijder doesn't want to move anyway. Which sucks, but that's life.

Modric and Pastore are both looking like they want to move though. Both would cost ÂŁ40m+ though.
 
Re: Official Premier League ~ FA Cup ~ Carling Cup ~ Discussion Thread 11/12 Season

The ideal situation for me, as a EPL fan, would be:

- Nasri stays at Arsenal.
- Cesc goes to City. :p
- Modric to United.
- Pastore comes to Chelsea.

I'm finding it difficult to "predict" that Arsenal will finish out of the top-4. Manchester United is the only certain entry to the top-2. For Chelsea, it all depends on the players they bring in. If they can strengthen the squad with Pastore and some supporting midfield players along with Lukaku, Chelsea would have a very strong side--both for the Premier League and the Champions League.

For Man City, it all depends on Tevez. If he stays and Man City buy a creative midfield player along with Silva, Man City will hold up strongly and challenge for #2 position. If Tevez goes, they need to bring Aguero, but as great as Aguero is, he's not Carlitos by any means.

For Arsenal, ugh, a striker please and defensive players. This will ensure a top-3 placing and with Liverpool hitting hard and their sole focus being the League, I really think, Liverpool could make something out of it.
 
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Arsenal just need to buy players who aren't made of glass.
 
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I wouldn't exactly say Chelsea is "certain" with the aging squad + new manager not even bought yet.
I would.

Considering what they fought back from last season to finish 2nd, it's fairly comfortable to say that I'm not worried. If they can battle back from a completely unjust firing of their assistant manager, chaos in the locker room because of it, and a myriad of injuries to finish 2nd with the squad that they had, then with a new system in place and a refreshed squad, they're going to be just fine.
DeeCee said:
I should quote you on that.

That's terrific.

NO team will be going into the new season with the same squad they have now, you muppet.
Are you kidding me with this post? This is one of the finest displays of assholery I've seen in quite a while.
 
Re: Official Premier League ~ FA Cup ~ Carling Cup ~ Discussion Thread 11/12 Season

I can see United winning the title.

It will be the same old story for Arsenal and Liverpool, although Liverpool will better Arsenal this time around.

For City, I will say 3rd, Maybe a cup along the way again too.

As for Chelsea, they're going to be strong as usual, seemingly in a transitional phase, with Neymar on the radar, Torres should be banging in the goals, Luiz, Ramires etc. Different team very much from the 2009-2010 season, be interesting to see if they can fucntion as well.
 
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Seriously guys? Chelsea will definitely finish top 4 with Arsenal, United & Citeh. Liverpool wll be fighting it out with Spurs for Europa League :lmao As an Arsenal fan, I think we can definitely win the PL IF we bring in experience and clear out the deadwood (Bendtner, Eboue, Denilson, Diaby etc. etc. I thourougly enjoy having a good laugh at Liverpool fans though. They sign two average, unproven players for 55 MILLION and the they think they are the shit and that they're going to challenge for the PL, Dalglish is fucking clueless. United have an average squad, IMO, but they have the biggest drive in the league. Where Arsenal would draw, United would win.

Ideal Arsenal set up:
GK: Szczesny​
LB: Baines​
CB: Vermaelen CB: Cahill​
RB: Sagna​
DMF: IDEALLY - Tiote/Veloso
CM: Wilshere CM: Fabregas​
LWF: Hazard​
CF: Van Persie​
RWF: Nasri​

Other possible signings - Higuain, Benzema, Samba, Stekelenburg, Melo

Predictions for all 3 trophies:-

Premier League - CAN'T decide between Arsenal & United (If all goes to plan in the transfer market.)

FA Cup - Chelsea

Carling Cup - Arsenal

People have been saying for the past 5 years we won't get in-to the top 4, so please, don't make me laugh.
 
Re: Official Premier League ~ FA Cup ~ Carling Cup ~ Discussion Thread 11/12 Season

Seriously guys? Chelsea will definitely finish top 4 with Arsenal, United & Citeh. Liverpool wll be fighting it out with Spurs for Europa League :lmao As an Arsenal fan, I think we can definitely win the PL IF we bring in experience and clear out the deadwood (Bendtner, Eboue, Denilson, Diaby etc. etc. I thourougly enjoy having a good laugh at Liverpool fans though. They sign two average, unproven players for 55 MILLION and the they think they are the shit and that they're going to challenge for the PL, Dalglish is fucking clueless. United have an average squad, IMO, but they have the biggest drive in the league. Where Arsenal would draw, United would win.

Ideal Arsenal set up:
GK: Szczesny​
LB: Baines​
CB: Vermaelen CB: Cahill​
RB: Sagna​
DMF: IDEALLY - Tiote/Veloso
CM: Wilshere CM: Fabregas​
LWF: Hazard​
CF: Van Persie​
RWF: Nasri​

Other possible signings - Higuain, Benzema, Samba, Stekelenburg, Melo

Predictions for all 3 trophies:-

Premier League - CAN'T decide between Arsenal & United (If all goes to plan in the transfer market.)

FA Cup - Chelsea

Carling Cup - Arsenal

People have been saying for the past 5 years we won't get in-to the top 4, so please, don't make me laugh.
Veloso? Really. Your ideal Arsenal side includes Miguel Veloso. Gotta question a player who apparently has Real Madrid chasing him then ends up at Genoa.

Benzema is possible. Higuian isnt. Mourinho loves him. He isnt going to sell him.

Edin Hazard has stated about 4 times this window he isnt leaving France. So i dont believe much in the report about us opening talks i think its just arseblog making up shite again.

I cant believe you want fabregas to stay. Im actually shocked at that..
 
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Arsenal won't get Benzema. And, Mourinho has stated that Higuian is staying at RM. As much as I'd love Higuian at Arsenal, it's never, ever happening.

If RM get Aguero, which is a possibility--albeit massively unpopular--because of what Aguero has been saying, then Benzema is done, especially since reports are suggesting that Adebayor may stay at Real for another season.

Arsenal should get Benzema though. :side:

Alternatively, if Tevez leaves City, Mourinho will most likely get him and City will get hold of Aguero.
 
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Veloso? Really. Your ideal Arsenal side includes Miguel Veloso. Gotta question a player who apparently has Real Madrid chasing him then ends up at Genoa.

Benzema is possible. Higuian isnt. Mourinho loves him. He isnt going to sell him.

Edin Hazard has stated about 4 times this window he isnt leaving France. So i dont believe much in the report about us opening talks i think its just arseblog making up shite again.

I cant believe you want fabregas to stay. Im actually shocked at that..
We need one of Fab or Nasri to stay. I would be happy to see Fab go, but we won't be able to get anyone better, Fab is the best CM in the world IMO. Barca won't buy him either, they don't have the 55 mil we want. They are in serious financial trouble, and I couldn't be happier. I could see Higuain going, eventually. Mourinho wants to build a completely new team. Don't underestimate Veloso, he is a top, top player. You have to think these are IDEAL players, not DREAM players, we don't spend money we don't have like the Scousers & United. Hazard will leave, never take a player's word...
 
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Erm, what?
Xavi and Iniesta are amazing, and both of them have been on the top of my CM lists regularly, but looking back on what Fabregas has achieved at 23, in terms of general play is remarkable. He is the natural heir to Xavi, and will be considered better by everyone else, IMO he already is... His passing is sublime - he actuall scores goals :shocked: and reads the game unbelievably. I would love to see how Xavi & Iniesta would fare over here, not as good as Fab in my estimations...
 
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We need one of Fab or Nasri to stay. I would be happy to see Fab go, but we won't be able to get anyone better, Fab is the best CM in the world IMO. Barca won't buy him either, they don't have the 55 mil we want. They are in serious financial trouble, and I couldn't be happier. I could see Higuain going, eventually. Mourinho wants to build a completely new team. Don't underestimate Veloso, he is a top, top player. You have to think these are IDEAL players, not DREAM players, we don't spend money we don't have like the Scousers & United. Hazard will leave, never take a player's word...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ll/article-1337402/Barcelona-record-125m-shirt-deal-Qatar-buy-way-football.html

As well as the Champions league funds. im sure if they want him Barcelona will be like all the rest and just ignore the debt. I remember last year they claimed to be in serious financial trouble then signed David Villa lol.

I watch alot of Serie A and there are many players in that league better than Miguel Veloso. Andrea Poli, Gokhan Inler, Kwadwo Asamoah are all achievable and all better players.

REally we dont even need either to stay. Fabregas was shocking last year because he doesnt want to be here so he's as good as gone anyway so really its only Nasri to replace. and 1 player is replaceable. Even without signing anoyone Song Ramsey and Arshavin central isnt much different than Song Wilshere Nasri most common midfield this term.
 
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Xavi and Iniesta are amazing, and both of them have been on the top of my CM lists regularly, but looking back on what Fabregas has achieved at 23, in terms of general play is remarkable. He is the natural heir to Xavi, and will be considered better by everyone else, IMO he already is... His passing is sublime - he actuall scores goals :shocked: and reads the game unbelievably. I would love to see how Xavi & Iniesta would fare over here, not as good as Fab in my estimations...
Xavi and Iniesta are in a different league to Fabregas. Both have achieved far more at club level than Fabregas, and at international level they lead Spain to the European Championship and World Cup - whilst Fabregas sat on the bench. Spain played 4 central midfielders at the World Cup over Fabregas. So that's complete nonsense. Saying Xavi and Iniesta wouldn't fare well over here is also laughable. They had no problem embarrassing the top two teams in England this year. In fact at the Camp Nou, Fabregas was completely anonymous, whilst Wilshere put in a MOTM performance at the Emirates and was the only Arsenal player to show any fight in the return leg.
 
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Xavi and Iniesta are in a different league to Fabregas. Both have achieved far more at club level than Fabregas, and at international level they lead Spain to the European Championship and World Cup - whilst Fabregas sat on the bench. Spain played 4 central midfielders at the World Cup over Fabregas. Saying Xavi and Iniesta wouldn't fare well over here is also laughable. They had no problem embarrassing the top two teams in England this year. In fact at the Camp Nou, Fabregas was completely anonymous, whilst Wilshere put in a MOTM performance at the Emirates and was the only Arsenal player to show any fight in the return leg.
Bit harsh. V.Persie was well up for it too up for it. Which led to his ridiculous red. But pretty much. When your sat in the stands and see the keeper go off with a sore finger you know something isnt right with the side adrenaline wise.
 
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Van Persie wasn't even fully fit. His red card was ridiculous, but he hardly did much before that. He didn't have any shots on goal until the one that got him sent off. I would say that was Arsenal's only shot of the game, but it was effectively just him (inadvertently) kicking the ball away as he was offside.
 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ll/article-1337402/Barcelona-record-125m-shirt-deal-Qatar-buy-way-football.html

As well as the Champions league funds. im sure if they want him Barcelona will be like all the rest and just ignore the debt. I remember last year they claimed to be in serious financial trouble then signed David Villa lol.

I watch alot of Serie A and there are many players in that league better than Miguel Veloso. Andrea Poli, Gokhan Inler, Kwadwo Asamoah are all achievable and all better players.

REally we dont even need either to stay. Fabregas was shocking last year because he doesnt want to be here so he's as good as gone anyway so really its only Nasri to replace. and 1 player is replaceable. Even without signing anoyone Song Ramsey and Arshavin central isnt much different than Song Wilshere Nasri most common midfield this term.
A 125 mil deal won't stop their debt. It will grow if they keep buying players. They don't need Fab or Sanchez. It's a dilemma as if we sell him then we get way under what we should get, although a lot of people want him gone, and we want the money. I don't watch a lot of Serie A, so I'll take your word for it. I heard Inler was a great player. We have 40 mil plus player sales, so potentially we could have upwards of a 100 mil, and we need to spend every penny of it. We have top youngsters coming through who can replace squad players who will leave, Lansbury, JET, Miyaichi (if he gets a permit) Afobe etc.

And mark my words, Chuks Aneke will be TOP.
 
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A 125 mil deal won't stop their debt. It will grow if they keep buying players. They don't need Fab or Sanchez. It's a dilemma as if we sell him then we get way under what we should get, although a lot of people want him gone, and we want the money. I don't watch a lot of Serie A, so I'll take your word for it. I heard Inler was a great player. We have 40 mil plus player sales, so potentially we could have upwards of a 100 mil, and we need to spend every penny of it. We have top youngsters coming through who can replace squad players who will leave, Lansbury, JET, Miyaichi (if he gets a permit) Afobe etc.

And mark my words, Chuks Aneke will be TOP.
Its a start though.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/09/barcelona-bojan-krkic-transfer-budget

hardly a crippling debt. They will come out of debt a year after us (if you believe the reports).
 
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Xavi and Iniesta are in a different league to Fabregas. Both have achieved far more at club level than Fabregas, and at international level they lead Spain to the European Championship and World Cup - whilst Fabregas sat on the bench. Spain played 4 central midfielders at the World Cup over Fabregas. So that's complete nonsense. Saying Xavi and Iniesta wouldn't fare well over here is also laughable. They had no problem embarrassing the top two teams in England this year. In fact at the Camp Nou, Fabregas was completely anonymous, whilst Wilshere put in a MOTM performance at the Emirates and was the only Arsenal player to show any fight in the return leg.
It's laughable that you think playing Arsenal & United months aparts equals playing in the EPL. I want to see them play the likes of Stoke week in week out, then we would see if they are the "best CMs in the world".

It's also laughable if you think being a part of a great team and winning trophies means you are the best in the world. Xavi & Iniesta didn't do it alone... And whatever del Bosque thinks of Fab is irrelevant too. He can't be seen by ANYONE as being at least 3rd choice and IMO he should start every game, don't forget he was the one who opened up Holland for Iniesta to score... You've obviously given in-to media hype.

Van Persie wasn't even fully fit. His red card was ridiculous, but he hardly did much before that. He didn't have any shots on goal until the one that got him sent off. I would say that was Arsenal's only shot of the game, but it was effectively just him (inadvertently) kicking the ball away as he was offside.
Most Arsenal fans aren't upset that Van Persie was sent off so we didn't have a credible striker - it was that we had to play with 10 men against Barca, and 11 of Arsenal's men is hard to hold Barca back. It would have been completely different if RVP would have stayed on the pitch.

Its a start though.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/09/barcelona-bojan-krkic-transfer-budget

hardly a crippling debt. They will come out of debt a year after us (if you believe the reports).
And the Glazers said United would be in safe hands...
 
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And the Glazers said United would be in safe hands...
4 league titles since the Glazers took over. 3 champions league finals. Free spending whenever they feel like it.

Pretty safe to me. They seem a weird bunch the Glazers but financially they seem screwed on but backwards if that makes any sense..
 
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