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Re: Brock Lesnar vs. Rey Mysterio (WWE Championship) - Survivor Series

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The other scenario I have seen people suggest is Rey's son costs Rey to lose the match which starts a Dominic vs Rey feud. Which is also very possible.
Can he even work? Plus, no disrespect to the kid, but he's got a TERRIBLE look. Legitimately one of the worst in company history.

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Can he even work? Plus, no disrespect to the kid, but he's got a TERRIBLE look. Legitimately one of the worst in company history.
He looks like he sucks but I can see Rey wanting to use this run to put his kid over.
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Re: Brock Lesnar vs. Rey Mysterio (WWE Championship) - Survivor Series

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Brock has been putting on MOTY contenders for every Survivor Series the past couple years. This is the one time a year Brock behaves like a pro wrestler. I'm hyped for this match. I always look forward to SS because of his matches now. Actually upset I canceled the network

1) AJ Style - 2016
2) Finn Balor - 2017
3) Daniel Bryan - 2018
4) Rey Mysterio - 2019
5) ??? - 2020
Balor match was at Royal Rumble

2017 was AJ
2016 Was the abomination and most cancerous match in history with regards to bury all credibility of an entire roster against shitberg

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Re: Brock Lesnar vs. Rey Mysterio (WWE Championship) - Survivor Series

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If I read this a few months ago, I'd agree. Brock just put over Rollins clean twice though.

Rey is a bigger star than Seth, he's more beloved, more respected, more charismatic, a better worker, a better promo and won't get booed out of the building if he beats Brock.
But he's not Vinces golden boy, and he never will be.

The fact that he put over Seth twice, once clean, doesn't mean that he's going to put over Rey. In fact, it suggests even more that he's going to win because he can't be dumbed down by continually losing. They're not gonna make Brock Lesnar just another main event jobber, he's their special attraction. He's beating Rey. I can't believe anyone thinks otherwise. HOW are they working you? It's REY MYSTERIO.

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Plus, they are gonna do Cain vs. Brock again at Mania, probably non-title. I can see Cain helping Rey win, Brock going away for a bit, then returning to feud with Cain in time for Mania.
Cain needs full reconstructive knee surgery. There's no way he makes it back in time for WrestleMania, that's out. Unless he gets a minor surgery, in which case he still needs surgery.

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Rey is hot right now and the last thing Raw needs is an absent champion AGAIN lol.
He might be a little more over than most main eventers, but he's not hot the way that Bray is hot, or Becky was hot last year, or Kofi was hot earlier this year. There's not a sustained movement to push Rey. I don't consider him "hot" right now at all, any more than I'd consider Randy Orton hot if he were to challenge Brock Lesnar. He'd get cheers too, big deal. There's no buzz for Rey.

And Brock being an absentee champion being the last thing they need won't stop Vince from doing it.




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The question for me is how long the match goes.

Maybe it goes 10 seconds, maybe it goes 10 minutes. I just don't know anymore with Brock.

But there is no way I see Mysterio beating Brock at this moment in time. I mean going into Summerslam against Rollins I had a feeling Rollins would pull that one out and he did because it just felt right. Here? I mean I like how they've built the story, but this just feels like it's setting itself up for another Brock win, nothing more.

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Balor match was at Royal Rumble

2017 was AJ
2016 Was the abomination and most cancerous match in history with regards to bury all credibility of an entire roster against shitberg
Oh brother. When was Daniel Bryan? I forgot about the Goldberg; must have blinked.


Ok. Alternate point. Brock preforms well against certain people. I think Rey is one of those people here respects and will go out of his way to put on a good match.

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But he's not Vinces golden boy, and he never will be.
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You are assuming any title win necessitates being a "Vince guy." We clearly have established throughout history that it is not always the case.

I would assume if Rey happened to pull off the upset, that he would hold the title for a VERY short period only. Like, maybe a month, 2 months at most. Vince is predictable but sometimes he hotshots a belt onto someone just for the lulz before ripping it off them before people get used to it.

Remember, a number of guys over the years have held the Universal title without Vince ever really being that high on them (Finn, KO).

Vince may obviously never give guys like Joe or Nak a top title, but there are a certain bunch of names you can see he would, because he HAS before. Mysterio is right on the cusp of that list. We've seen Vince give Mysterio titles and then book him like a joke, we've seen him give Mysterio a title and yank it off him after a few hours...but the point is, he DID win them.
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Re: Brock Lesnar vs. Rey Mysterio (WWE Championship) - Survivor Series

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Can he even work? Plus, no disrespect to the kid, but he's got a TERRIBLE look. Legitimately one of the worst in company history.
you need to go back and watch more 80's/early 90's WWF. Dominic isn't even in the discussion.
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You are assuming any title win necessitates being a "Vince guy." We clearly have established throughout history that it is not always the case.
When it's BROCK LESNAR, you're god damn right that any title win necessitates being a Vince guy. Vince McMahon is not putting a non Vince guy over BROCK LESNAR. For ANY reason.

Basically what this equates to is you essentially saying that because Vince McMahon gave Carmella the womens title once upon a time, he's going to allow her to beat Ronda Rousey. THAT'S how steep the difference is between Brock and Rey.

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Remember, a number of guys over the years have held the Universal title without Vince ever really being that high on them (Finn, KO).
And was the champion Brock? No. And I think Vince was high on Balor, but he lost faith in him when he got injured. KO was the result of an injury and a lack of options. None of that means anything because I'm not debating the idea that Rey can't be champion. Of course Rey can be the champion. Rey can't be the champion RIGHT NOW, because BROCK is the champion. Difference.

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Vince may obviously never give guys like Joe or Nak a top title, but there are a certain bunch of names you can see he would, because he HAS before. Mysterio is right on the cusp of that list. We've seen Vince give Mysterio titles and then book him like a joke, we've seen him give Mysterio a title and yank it off him after a few hours...but the point is, he DID win them.
And that's my point. Vince is not going to put a guy over Brock that he treats as a joke.

These are the people who have wins over Brock Lesnar since 2012, since he came back.

John Cena
Triple H
Bill Goldberg
The Undertaker
Roman Reigns
Seth Rollins

7 years, those are the ONLY people who have beaten him. What do they all have in common? Golden boy, golden boy, golden boy, golden boy, golden boy, golden boy.

Brock has plowed through AJ Styles, he's plowed through Daniel Bryan, he's plowed through CM Punk, he's plowed through Finn Balor, he's plowed through Randy Orton, he's plowed through Strowman, etc. Rey is NOT beating Brock. You're being worked. Brock Lesnar is not Randy Orton, Brock Lesnar is not Seth Rollins, Brock Lesnar is not Roman Reigns, Brock Lesnar is not even John Cena, Brock Lesnar is THE MOST PROTECTED WRESTLER IN HISTORY. Period, point blank. Those guys might find themselves in a situation where they might lose the title on a whim to a Rey Mysterio, or even a Jinder Mahal is Vince got fucked up in the head enough, as we've seen. Not with Brock.





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It's a shame we're getting this and not Brock, Fiend and Cole. Now I'm curious what match they give Bray. Cole would make no sense since Raw isn't involved.

Brock wins. I don't think he'll completely squash Rey because it's on PPV, and they'll play up Reys quickness, but this isn't going 10 minutes.
Could see a thrown together feud with Strowman tbh, he's the go to guy whenever they need filler content.

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