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Re: Why don’t people actually play wrestling games for which they claim to be the best?

because in many cases, the games arnt amazing NOW. Thats not to say they can't hold up for people but lets be honest, they are old games.

its like saying goldeneye was a phenomenal game.......yes it was in 1997, if anyone played it for the first time in 2019 they would likely say "whats this shite?"

no mercy is one of my favourite wrestling games ever but one I cant really play it because it looks dreadful on my TV and two its really not as good as it used to be back in the day, its aged.

plus you have to factor in things like the rosters.
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I play nothing BUT older, good wrestling games.

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because in many cases, the games arnt amazing NOW. Thats not to say they can't hold up for people but lets be honest, they are old games.

its like saying goldeneye was a phenomenal game.......yes it was in 1997, if anyone played it for the first time in 2019 they would likely say "whats this shite?"

no mercy is one of my favourite wrestling games ever but one I cant really play it because it looks dreadful on my TV and two its really not as good as it used to be back in the day, its aged.


plus you have to factor in things like the rosters.
Well, you see, the sports game that was only good 20 years and not good now can not possibly be the best game that features that sport. That simply means that itís WORSE than the newer games. So the people that say that HCTP is the best wrestling game but itís ďnot good nowĒ are being plain ridicilous. A game that is best in the series must be better than all the others, in the time that we are talking about it.

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Re: Why don’t people actually play wrestling games for which they claim to be the best?

I've been playing Fire Pro Wrestling Returns until World came out, and now I'm playing that because it's superior to Returns.


As far as WWE-branded games go:


Favorite game was WrestleFest, but you can't get your hands on it unless you fire up an Arcade emulator. No Mercy, WrestleMania 2000 and WCW vs nWo Revenge were all great when they came out but it's not something that I want to spend my time playing anymore.


Smackdown series on Playstation has always been shit IMO, with HCTP being the only notable exception. SvR was middle-of-the road for me, where I'd play them for a month and ditch them. The 2K games have progressively become my favorite WWE-branded games out of the bunch, with 2K19 being my absolute favorite. Still, I'd rather play Fire Pro.

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Iíve heard this shit over and over again and it makes zero sense. Everybody claims that svr 07, Smackdown HCTP, Smackdown SYM are the best wrestling games there are while still playing the newest ones all the time DESPITE claiming that they are shit. What is the actual logic behind that? I think that svr 07 and svr 08 are the best games thus I actually play only them in 2019. Itís contradictory for anyone to say that the game that is allegedly the best is not the one they play, ever. Even though the game they are talking about is 3x cheaper than WWE 2k19 per example.
I made a Virtual Pro Wrestling II thread and that Sith Lord Calburt Frieduck deleted it. I would imagine the same thing happens with other older wrestling game threads.

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Well, you see, the sports game that was only good 20 years and not good now can not possibly be the best game that features that sport. That simply means that itís WORSE than the newer games. So the people that say that HCTP is the best wrestling game but itís ďnot good nowĒ are being plain ridicilous. A game that is best in the series must be better than all the others, in the time that we are talking about it.

Btw thanks to the moderator that replaced this tread in the wrestling games section.
So according to you I have to keep on playing a wrestling game I think is the best, and I can't play any others? Something can be dated and still be the best. You do you pal.

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Well, you see, the sports game that was only good 20 years and not good now can not possibly be the best game that features that sport. That simply means that it’s WORSE than the newer games. So the people that say that HCTP is the best wrestling game but it’s “not good now” are being plain ridicilous. A game that is best in the series must be better than all the others, in the time that we are talking about it.

Btw thanks to the moderator that replaced this tread in the wrestling games section.
So according to you I have to keep on playing a wrestling game I think is the best, and I can't play any others? Something can be dated and still be the best. You do you pal.
Not that you should ONLY play that one game, but it’s contradictory that someone doesn’t ever play a game for which he says is the best in the series. You own the alleged best wrestling game ever and never play it? Well, you don’t actually think it’s the best then.
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I have. If SvR í06 or King of Colosseum 2 were available to play on the PS4 or the X1 as is, trust me, I would be playing them. SvR í06 was the most balanced WWE game; realistic match mechanics (5 seconding rope break, KO mechanics, submission KO mechanics) while having an acceptable speed for gameplay that wasnít too fast and wasnít too slow, and easy to use controls. If this game was remade with match options, abilities, and creation suite of 2k19, it would be considered the best WWE game ever.

Meanwhile King of Colosseum 2 seemed like a worthy spiritual successor to No Mercy and the other AKI games. It had room for improvement though. It just needed:

ē a better creation mode (you select a head, and canít edit the hair or beard styles, including if you want it removed, or add/remove facepaint or a mask. Thereís only one female head available in the entire game. You canít make refs or championships/trophies either).

ē certain match mechanics, physics, and features (crowd fighting, guardrail moves when irish whipped into them, moves off of the ramp, better weapon selection when retrieving one, 5 count rope break, 5 count on the top rope, better physics in blood/weapons/environment, better limb damage selling Ė sometimes took way too long for limb to be held when worked on relentlessly).

ē an expansion of match type selection and settings (3 v 3, 4 v 4, gauntlet, steel cage, ladder, a proper lumberjack match, a falls count anywhere option, death matches & electrified cage matches from the Fire Pro games, since it was developed by the same company).

ē And be not just exclusive to Japan.

But itís still the best pure wrestling game I have ever played (and a decent MMA experience to boot), and I can play with nearly a dozen different feds in Japan with a couple hundred wrestlers, boxers, and MMA fighters overall. I love this game for a reason.

I enjoyed 2K18, even though it wasnít popular. And I was enjoying 2K19, but it feels like they patched the gameplay, making it go from being a fun challenge giving me epic long matches to being easy again and feeling uninspired. So, I traded both 2K games for better games.

So, all I have right left now is Fire Pro World. Iíd rather have a sequel to King of Colosseum 2, (King of Colosseum 3/World Tour/Fire Pro 3D, whatever they want to call it) or even a remaster of the game, but this works.
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the sad truth is pro wrestling like any game based on sports is more about the wish fantasy fulfilment and simulation than the actual meat and potatoes gameplay

you can only play Smackdown on the PS1 and make Al Snow the main eventer that chances are as an Al Snow fan back in the day you wanted to see him become until its gets upstaged by newer stuff and or you're no longer immersed and you realise that there is no way its going to happen in real life.

Still it is fun to pretend right?

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