Oh come on, you're just nitpicking now
If normal Greninja is just a "8.25/10" to you, then what's your grade for Sobble's final form, a 9/10?
What about shiny Greninja?
To me, Sobble's final form is more like a 5/10 and that five is mostly because I like lizards. Everything else about its design just looks weird and meh. I also hate how thin it looks, like any pokemon in existence can beat its ass. Another reason for the hate is because I had different and high expectations for Sobble's second and third form (like a big lizard or something) and the leaks pretty much ruined it.
Imo, Sobble's final form is up there with Delphox, Emboar and Chesnaught when it comes to awful final stage starter designs.
Yeah, that score sounds about right in my book.
But now that I've mulled it over, I think an 8.5/10 is a more appropriate score for Greninja. That being said, he has one of the GOAT shiny colorations, to the point of being a 9.5/10.
The reason why Sobble's final evo is a 9/10 in my book is because its primary design flaw is, like you mentioned, being too thin. That being said, everything else about him looks slick as fuck and right on point. I also love how he succeeded the Snivy line by exuding an air of confidence / smugness (especially since he's come a long way from being an anxiety-ridden underdog as Sobble
Disappointed you mentioned those three in particular, since I love them.
That being said, I concede that Emboar's design is in the awkward spot between Infernape's design of having just the right amount of details without going overboard, and Emploeon's design of having too much unnecessary shit going on. Ultimately, Emboar wound up being my favorite Unova starter because of:
- Pignite edging out Dewott and Servine in regard to charm
- My love for piggies
- How he reminded me of Ganondorf's Beast Ganon form