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After Long Defending Lootboxes EA Showcases Cowardice At UK Parliament Hearing Referring To Them As "A Fun Surprise Mechanic"

Fucking hell EA got absolutely buried at this hearing, keep in mind this was just a discussion of sorts and not a an actual court case or anything, but let's go down on some keynotes:

-EA Employee States "they don't refer to them as lootboxes (they have multiple times in the past)", "is a surprises mechanic" "that's quite fun"

-Likens them to LOL Surprise, Kinder Eggs

-Epic Employee present on EA's behalf nearly shuts down when rep against lootboxes mentions report of a 6 year old spending 1,600 pounds on his father's account, basically refuses to believe report (yes that actually happened)

-Epic employee blatantly lies about not making money on Fortnite due to it being F2P despite having paid items in-game, which was pointed out by rep against lootboxes

-One of the more talkative reps continuously laugh at Epic and EA throughout




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The negativity on lootboxes got so bad EA can't even use the words anymore and now they've been outed as lying pussies. Something is going to give on this shit, they may not go away completely, but they'll be heavily adjusted from what they currently are.
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And I call piracy surprise free to play.

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Re: After Long Defending Lootboxes EA Showcases Cowardice At UK Parliament Hearing Referring To Them As "A Fun Surprise Mechanic"

utterly pointless action on their part. An apple is still an apple whether you call it one or something else.

that woman talking about it just the personification of the scum that EA is. "first of all, we don't call them loot boxes".....well how about you fuck right off? you do call them loot boxes and even if you don't call them that, they still are fucking loot boxes so just shut up and answer the questions without splitting hairs.

I personally don't care about loot boxes existing however they should be treated like gambling and regulated as such because thats exactly what loot boxes are......gambling, you are putting in money with no certainty of what you will get back, if anything.

If they arnt regulated then they arnt ethical imo because these fucking companies are allowed to fleece anyone they like without any kind of limitation or set of rules. There is a reason why gambling can only be done by adults.

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Re: After Long Defending Lootboxes EA Showcases Cowardice At UK Parliament Hearing Referring To Them As "A Fun Surprise Mechanic"

You shoukd see the Spain hearing with Fortnite creators. Even worse.
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EA can suck it after what they and Bioware did with Anthem is all I know. This stuff I hope they get taken to the woodshed for, because they richly deserve it.

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Re: After Long Defending Lootboxes EA Showcases Cowardice At UK Parliament Hearing Referring To Them As "A Fun Surprise Mechanic"

im out of the loop (dont buy any new console games)

My understanding is that these Loot boxes encourage twelve year olds who buy these games to gamble. or do people actually lose money on the Boxes directly?

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im out of the loop (dont buy any new console games)

My understanding is that these Loot boxes encourage twelve year olds who buy these games to gamble. or do people actually lose money on the Boxes directly?
'Loot boxes' is a term for an item you can purchase in a video game, possibly win by performing a task in the game, with real money. The loot box will contain an assortment of items that are associated with the game, dependent on the game (a new skin character, improving a perk system, new gun, etc). The assortment is often chosen randomly from an arrangement of items, sometimes themed towards a certain upgrade or theme within the game. Many loot boxes are compiled of items on a completely random basis, which yields a surprise mechanic as the buyer does not know the exact contents of their purchase.

The positives are you can get some very rare, more money or harder to come-by, items in loot boxes.

The negatives are it's random and you cannot predict what you'll receive. This is often compared to gambling in that you cannot predict what you'll receive off of a bet. There is also speculation that the randomization is rigged to exclude the more desirable of items, although this is never known to the consumer. There is also the belief that if one gamer chooses to direct purchase these contents, instead of randomized loot boxes, that gamer will be at an advantage over other games who either cannot afford to or choose not to purchase directly - refereed to as 'pay to win'.


I wanted to present it as unbiased as possible, but it's tough because I think loot boxes are predatory gambling abusing children.
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EA can suck it after what they and Bioware did with Anthem is all I know. This stuff I hope they get taken to the woodshed for, because they richly deserve it.
Im trying really hard not to be elitist here, when it generally comes to EA I give zero fucks. However, most should have known Anthem was going to be bad. Bioware are not what they once were and Mass Effect: Andromeda was a key example.
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Im trying really hard not to be elitist here, when it generally comes to EA I give zero fucks. However, most should have known Anthem was going to be bad. Bioware are not what they once were and Mass Effect: Andromeda was a key example.
ME:A was flawed specifically because EA took Bioware's A and B teams off of Andromeda and put them on Anthem because EA expected a "service" game to make them more money than a single purchase game.

Even with their C team who had never made a full game before, ME:A still had some good shit in it. I'm not ready to give up on Bioware yet.

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Anthem looked like the most generic garbage before it even released.
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