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Of all the push Ziggler threads, or turn him face/heel threads I felt this was the most appropriate and yet unappreciated concepts for this WWE star. Ziggler is ok to good on the mice, his ring work is typically 5 star, and he lacks ideal physical size. What he really needs is something that draws more attention. You look at past stars like Jesse The Body Ventura, Macho Man Randy Savage, Superstar Billy Graham, The Nature Boy Ric Flair, Sting, Warrior, The Rockers, or even that goof Brutus The Barber Beefcake were able to draw fans in with their appearance. I'm not comparing Ziggler to either of those men, other than the basic look of the character.

If Ziggler is "The Show Off" then he has to say, or express it in more ways. Nothing about his physical appearance stands out. He is rather bland when you look at him, and none of his real fans ever want to address this issue. Ziggler is what I would consider a Wrestling Diva, but with a pair of balls. Naturally he is a heel, but he can play the face role no doubt. He has no look to him and I think ultimately that's what he really needs. He needs flash, color, and really elaborate entrance song. Like I said before, if he is the "Show Off" then he needs to express this in nearly everything he does. This should include look, style in the ring, and entrance.
 

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I don't see Ziggler getting any further, it's not that he can't make the character work, it's just there's no creative interest that warrants making him a big deal; I can't imagine where he'll be in 5 years time, he prob would moved on by then to another promotion as I can't see the character lasting several more years; unless they give him a dancing gimmick, then he can be in some dance offs I guess.
 

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Ziggler tries wayyyyy too hard to be funny on the mic. RAW showed that very well, and I see why they don't give him the mic very often. I'm actually kind of tired of seeing him. Don't get me wrong he's a great wrestler but he should have never ascended above micard, he copies off Billy Gunn wayyy too much, and I'm also kind of tired of seeing the guy jobbed out all the time.

WWE said they won't release guys anymore unless they breach their contract, so instead they just won't renew old contracts to cycle out the old guys. Ziggler will be one of those guys. They are not happy with him, he hates his job, and he will never go anywhere
 

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Unfortunately he patterns himself after Billy Gunn, a career mid-carder, despite being better than the original. He has basically cast his lot with the likes of Mr. Perfect and Gunn, as a result eliminating himself from being a main-event player. Wouldn't mind seeing him go over the top with the "Show-Off" thing with pyros and crazy outfits among other things.
 

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The guy with bleached blond hair, hot pink shirts and sparkly trunks needs flashiness?

If there's one thing he's got IMO it's flashiness. Maybe too much though, and not enough substance. There's not much in the way of a compelling character beneath it all that I can really get into.
 

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The guy with bleached blond hair, hot pink shirts and sparkly trunks needs flashiness?

If there's one thing he's got IMO it's flashiness. Maybe too much though, and not enough substance. There's not much in the way of a compelling character beneath it all that I can really get into.
Hardly. I see white boots and hardly decorated small trunks attire. The hot pink shirts mean nothing in overall look. His entrance is hardly exciting are anything near showing off. He has to express showing off. Expensive clothing, expensive/fast cars, and plenty of women. Peacocks show off and it's typically a display of color, or basically fashion. Of course it's not fashion to the bird, but to a human it's a display of looks, colors, and patterns. It's basically a fashion show. They're are showing off and that's Dolph's gimmick. Everything about him is, or should pertain to showing off. He is too one dimensional with "Showing Off".
 

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At this point I don't even know what Ziggler needs lol.

His comedy really isn't that good. I know some of the dudes on this board were probably out of their seat when he said "Jack Swagger kicked me harder than that", but I don't really think that was that humorous... if they paired him up with a solid manager that could do most of the talking, I think he'd manage to pull his end of the weight and be fine. Doesn't have to be Zeb or Heyman either.... perhaps Flair?

Some of his moves are diva-ish too.... the rump shaking... really? His look is just weird, I honestly think the WWE needs a repackage, and besides crazy selling.... his matches to me really just look like ordinary stuff. We got the Uso's doing top rope dive's at the same time, Rollins is flying almost everywhere in the ring, Cody Rhodes does a moonsault off the top of the cage.... Dolph really doesn't do much flashy. The top turnbuckle X-factor is great, but that's about it.

The biggest problem is there's only one game in town now, and really what reason do they have to actually push Ziggler? The guy has been around for ages, I think he's outlived his shelf life in the WWE. Wouldn't hurt to consider another league for a few years, or do what Christian did and try TNA.
 

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Ziggler's main problem is that his true talent is his ability to portray an underdog "babyface in peril", but his character isn't easy to root for. He would benefit from a little build and a few tweaks to his character that turns him into more of a fan favorite.

I hate to bring a talent that hasn't even made his way to the main roster yet, but take for example Tyler Breeze. It's very clear what he is about and why you should like him or hate him.
 
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