[DeanToon]

Embrace your inner mark. Its took me awhile bringing up this list but ive also had massive fun remembering certain things in my head and also a little visit to youtube here and their. I expect to see these lists full of bias and full of your favorite generations superstars. Alot of my list is comppiled from when I was younger, as I wouldnt class myself as an avid fan now, more a casual viewer. Here's mine....... My top 50 wrestlers ever, not just in ring but total package.

50. Konnan
49. Raven
48. "DX" Billy Gunn
47. Rick Steiner
46. Juvi
45. Norman Smiley
44. Kane
43. Kevin Nash
42. Rey Mysterio
41. Raven
40. CM Punk
39. Sean O' Haire
38. Alex Wright
37. Curt Hennig
36. Randy Savage
35. Arn Anderson

As you can probably see so far I was more of a WCW child.

34. Dean Malenko
33. Chris Jericho
32. Psychosis
31. Val Venis
30. Christian
29. Jeff Hardy
28. The Undertaker
27. Al Snow
26. Edge
25. The Giant/Big Show
24. Rob Van Dam
23. Booker T
22. Road Dogg
21. Stonecold Steve Austin
20. Randy Savage
19. Taz
18. Shawn Michaels
17. Eddie Guerrueo
16. Scott Steiner
15. Owen Hart
14. Ken Shamrock
13. Bret Hart
12. Farooq
11. Haku
10. Scott Hall
9. Ultimo Dragon
8. Billy Kidman
7. Ric Flair
6. Triple H
5. DDP
4. Chris Benoit (the wrestler not the man)
3. X-pac
2. The Rock
1.Sting

Their is my totally biased list, mainly featuring people from the era I enjoyed, with 1 or 2 exceptions.

Its took me awhile to compile this list with many cuts and chopping and changing, I've tried to stick strictly to people who actually wrestled so you may notice the lack of Vince, Bischoff, JR, Schiavone etc...... You will be surprised how fun this can be putting together. Its controversial and some big superstars are quite high up the list but I've based this on my enjoyment only and the time I was mostly invested in wrestling. Yours?

 

[Cena Nuff]

50. Jack Swagger
49. Rhyno
48. Goldust
47. Bobby Roode
46. La Sombre
45. Terry Funk
44. Batista (Didnt really care for him much but still a fav)
43. Tommy Dreamer
42. Farooq
41. Ted DiBiase Sr.
40. Bradshaw/JBL
39. Cody Rhodes
38. Rey Mysterio
37. Tajiri (Fav Cruiserweight)
36. Chris Sabin
35. James Storm
34. EC3
33. Matt Hardy
32. Sheamus
31. Lita
30. Dean Malenko
29. Arn Anderson
29. Kevin Nash
28. Abyss
27. Razor Ramon
26. Roman Reigns (YES ROMAN REIGNS)
25. Luke Harper
24. Randy Orton
23. Jeff Hardy
22. Christian
21. Trish Stratus/AJ Lee
20. Dusty Rhodes
19. Brock Lesnar
18. Seth Rollins
17. Bray Wyatt
16. Edge
15. Dean Ambrose
14. Ricky Steamboat
13. Jimmy Snuka
12. Roddy Piper
11. John Cena (I am a fan)
10. Triple H
9. DDP
8. Eddie Guerrero
7. Sting
6. CM Punk
5. Chris Benoit
4. Bret Hart
3. Ric Flair
2. Chris Jericho
1. HBK/ Hulk Hogan/ Steve Austin/ The Rock/ Undertaker (I Couldnt choose who was the best of all time)

 

[5 Star Giulia ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

1. The Rock
2. Stone Cold
3. Rob Van Dam
4. Kurt Angle
5. Triple H
6. Chris Benoit
7. Undertaker
8. Billy Gunn(DX)
9. Shawn Michaels
10. Trish Stratus
11. Shane McMahon
12. Mick Foley
13. Goldberg
14. Sting (Crow, Wolfpac)
15. Chris Jericho
16. Daniel Bryan
17. Kevin Nash
18. Scott Hall
19. Kane
20. Edge
21. Scott Steiner
22. Brock Lesnar
23. Batista
24. Randy Orton
25. Roman Reigns
26. Big Show
27. Rey Mysterio
28. Eddie Guerrero
29. Ric Flair
30. Billy Kidman
31. Test
32. Matt Hardy
33. Farooq
34. Bradshaw
35. Bubba Ray
36. Devon
37. DDP
38. Rhyno
39. Al Snow
40. Bret Hart
41. Juventud
42. Konnan
43. X-Pac
44. Spike
45. Hogan
46. Road Dogg
47. Gangrel
48. Vince McMahon
49. Booker T
50. Lita

After 15 I just started listing names of people I liked.

 

[DeanToon]

1. The Rock
2. Stone Cold
3. Rob Van Dam
4. Kurt Angle
5. Triple H
6. Chris Benoit
7. Undertaker
8. Billy Gunn(DX)
9. Shawn Michaels
10. Trish Stratus
11. Shane McMahon
12. Mick Foley
13. Goldberg
14. Sting (Crow, Wolfpac)
15. Chris Jericho
16. Daniel Bryan
17. Kevin Nash
18. Scott Hall
19. Kane
20. Edge
21. Scott Steiner
22. Brock Lesnar
23. Batista
24. Randy Orton
25. Roman Reigns
26. Big Show
27. Rey Mysterio
28. Eddie Guerrero
29. Ric Flair
30. Billy Kidman
31. Test
32. Matt Hardy
33. Farooq
34. Bradshaw
35. Bubba Ray
36. Devon
37. DDP
38. Rhyno
39. Al Snow
40. Bret Hart
41. Juventud
42. Konnan
43. X-Pac
44. Spike
45. Hogan
46. Road Dogg
47. Gangrel
48. Vince McMahon
49. Booker T
50. Lita

After 15 I just started listing names of people I liked.

1 oversight on my part, Kurt. Vinny Mac also but I went for wrestlers only otherwise Bischoff would of been top 10 and Vinny Mac top 15. Good call on Gangrel also.

 

[5 Star Giulia ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

1 oversight on my part, Kurt. Vinny Mac also but I went for wrestlers only otherwise Bischoff would of been top 10 and Vinny Mac top 15. Good call on Gangrel also.

I think Shane is very underrated. He could put on better matches than half of the current roster.

 

[DeanToon]

I think Shane is very underrated. He could put on better matches than half of the current roster.

Definitely, he put his body on the line but I see my list as full time wrestlers, whilst Shane's matches were brutal I still class him as something in the middle of a part time and full time wrestler. Thats not to take anything away from the guy though. See, the fun on debating the lists haha.

 

[Mountain Rushmore]

I can do one from the top down. After the top 10, order probably won't even matter.

John Cena
Shawn Michaels
The Undertaker
Brock Lesnar
Bray Wyatt
Bret Hart
Triple H
Randy Orton
Edge
CM Punk
Jeff Hardy
Mr. Kennedy
Ric Flair (but only post WCW, as old man flair)
Rick Rude
Dusty Rhodes
Ultimate Warrior
Big Show
Chris Jericho
LAX (Homicide and Hernandez)
MNM (Mercury and Nitro)
JBL
MVP
RVD
Booker T
The Collective Shield
Vader
Batista.
Mankind
Kane
Umaga
Ryback
Abyss
Kurt Angle (even though I think he's extremely overrated)
Owen Hart
Dynamite Kid
Shane McMahon
Vince McMahon
Jake Roberts
Samoa Joe
Sting (pre-Crow and then TNA)
Shane Douglas
Beer Money Inc.
Goldust
Alberto Del Rio
Daniel Bryan (hella overrated but I like him here and there when he's not shoved down my throat)
Jake Roberts
Sheamus
Mark Henry
The Real Americans
Finlay
Miz
Renee Dupree

 

[5 Star Giulia ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

Definitely, he put his body on the line but I see my list as full time wrestlers, whilst Shane's matches were brutal I still class him as something in the middle of a part time and full time wrestler. Thats not to take anything away from the guy though. See, the fun on debating the lists haha.

Kurt Angle (even though I think he's extremely overrated)

Can we talk about this? Kurt Angle was the total package: Charisma, Wrestling Ability, Flexibility to be Heel or Face, exciting moveset....I don't see what he's lacking.

 

[Reaper]

My list is based on who I want to see the most in that order. I haven't made this list based on whether they're good, bad, best at any particular thing. It's entirely based on how much enjoyment I get from their presence on my screen in the WWE only. (And I had trouble coming up with more than 20 right now)..

1. Warrior (Personal reasons and they're biased as fuck - so haters deal with it).
2. HBK
3. Punk
4. Bryan
5. Jericho
6. The Shield (Rollins>Ambrose>Reigns in that order)
7. Orton
8. HHH
9. The McMahons (Shane probably at the front of it all)
10. Paul Heyman
11. Batista
12. Zeb Coulter
13. AJ Lee
14. Bret Hart
15. Rey Mysterio
16. Mick Foley
17. Sting
18. Cena
19. Macho Man (Ms. Elizabeth and Sherri fall here)
20. Chyna (pre-implants)/Sable

 

[TheWeasel]

It's kinda in order-ish
Tier 1
Shawn Michaels
Ric Flair
John Cena
Steve Austin
Minoru Suzuki
Chris Benoit
Eddie Guerrero
Owen Hart
Kurt Angle
Edge
Tier 2
The Rock
Randy Orton
Bret Hart
HHH
Brock Lesnar
Christopher Daniels
CM Punk
Chris Jericho
The Undertaker
Daniel Bryan
Tier 3
Sheamus
Matt Hardy
William Regal
MVP
Brian Pillman
Kane
JBL
Paul London
Christian
Brian Kendrick
Tier 4
Castagnoli/Cesaro
Rollins
Wade Barrett
Jeff Hardy
Pope D'Angelo
Dean Malenko
Gregory Helms
Rey Mysterio
Nigel McGuinness
Dolph Ziggler
Tier 5
Rob Van Dam
Shelton Benjamin
The Miz
Umaga
Razor Ramon
Cody Rhodes
John Morrison
Jack Swagger
Rhyno
Batista

 

[Mountain Rushmore]

Can we talk about this? Kurt Angle was the total package: Charisma, Wrestling Ability, Flexibility to be Heel or Face, exciting moveset....I don't see what he's lacking.

all of those things are true. However, he's still overrated. One thing people have to understand is that overrated =/= bad. Just that considering how many people call him the best wrestler ever, he would be overrated. Specific reasons?

-technically, his ring work is good. The first couple of Kurt Angle matches you watch will be fast paced, exciting and laden with...stuff. Shit going on. But he's also extremely repetitive and if you've seen one Angle match, you've seen most of them. His best work was with Samoa Joe, IMO. Because it was different. After Lesnar, I don't think Angle's WWE matches are all that cool or unique.

If it's a tv match where he's a face, then you know that before the 1st commercial break, he'll have been beat down a little but suddenly got the upper hand with an exploder suplex etc. etc, I think you get my point here. General repetitiveness.

-His mic work is or can be above average. But his character severly lacked for the rest of his career after the "troll face" gimmick. As a face, he's just an intense dude. As a heel he's a hot head who resorts to cheating if you break his Ankle Lock. To me, his character was and uninteresting for almost all of his career. Until, again, Samoa Joe turned him into a desperate, vulnerable veteran.

Those are reason enough, as I'm big on character. I really can't be engaged by guys who have none. So his world title reigns always felt flat to me. I didn't even like Rey and was glad to see Rey win at WM22 and after he won the WHC battle royal I stopped really following SD because I was simply not interested in him. Ironically, his best work (with Joe) gets the least recognition.

 

[NastyYaffa]

Top-50 is too hard to make for me, but here is my top-10:

1. Shawn Michaels
2. Daniel Bryan
3. Eddie Guerrero
4. CM Punk
5. Chris Jericho
6. The Undertaker
7. Christian
8. Edge
9. Chris Benoit
10. Kurt Angle.

 

[Bad Gone]

all of those things are true. However, he's still overrated. One thing people have to understand is that overrated =/= bad. Just that considering how many people call him the best wrestler ever, he would be overrated. Specific reasons?

-technically, his ring work is good. The first couple of Kurt Angle matches you watch will be fast paced, exciting and laden with...stuff. Shit going on. But he's also extremely repetitive and if you've seen one Angle match, you've seen most of them. His best work was with Samoa Joe, IMO. Because it was different. After Lesnar, I don't think Angle's WWE matches are all that cool or unique.

If it's a tv match where he's a face, then you know that before the 1st commercial break, he'll have been beat down a little but suddenly got the upper hand with an exploder suplex etc. etc, I think you get my point here. General repetitiveness.

-His mic work is or can be above average. But his character severly lacked for the rest of his career after the "troll face" gimmick. As a face, he's just an intense dude. As a heel he's a hot head who resorts to cheating if you break his Ankle Lock. To me, his character was and uninteresting for almost all of his career. Until, again, Samoa Joe turned him into a desperate, vulnerable veteran.

Those are reason enough, as I'm big on character. I really can't be engaged by guys who have none. So his world title reigns always felt flat to me. I didn't even like Rey and was glad to see Rey win at WM22 and after he won the WHC battle royal I stopped really following SD because I was simply not interested in him. Ironically, his best work (with Joe) gets the least recognition.

I respect your opinion but when I read your words, I feel like you think of Angle as "good".....Let's be clear : Angle is one of the greatest of all time. Like him or not, I think we should all agree on that. When I read you, T think YOU are the one who underrate Kurt Angle.
In a ring, he's the total package : strengh, agility, stamina, speed, "craziness".....he's elite.
With a mic, he's also very talented and can be extremely fun....

Well, I won't force you to like Angle. As I say, everyone is entitled to his opinion but he's definitly one of the best of all time.

 

[5 Star Giulia ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

all of those things are true. However, he's still overrated. One thing people have to understand is that overrated =/= bad. Just that considering how many people call him the best wrestler ever, he would be overrated. Specific reasons?

-technically, his ring work is good. The first couple of Kurt Angle matches you watch will be fast paced, exciting and laden with...stuff. Shit going on. But he's also extremely repetitive and if you've seen one Angle match, you've seen most of them. His best work was with Samoa Joe, IMO. Because it was different. After Lesnar, I don't think Angle's WWE matches are all that cool or unique.

If it's a tv match where he's a face, then you know that before the 1st commercial break, he'll have been beat down a little but suddenly got the upper hand with an exploder suplex etc. etc, I think you get my point here. General repetitiveness.

-His mic work is or can be above average. But his character severly lacked for the rest of his career after the "troll face" gimmick. As a face, he's just an intense dude. As a heel he's a hot head who resorts to cheating if you break his Ankle Lock. To me, his character was and uninteresting for almost all of his career. Until, again, Samoa Joe turned him into a desperate, vulnerable veteran.

Those are reason enough, as I'm big on character. I really can't be engaged by guys who have none. So his world title reigns always felt flat to me. I didn't even like Rey and was glad to see Rey win at WM22 and after he won the WHC battle royal I stopped really following SD because I was simply not interested in him. Ironically, his best work (with Joe) gets the least recognition.

Honestly, you could probably count on 1 hand how many wrestlers have a different formula for every match. I'm not saying everyone is Cena, but they all have a general gameplan with 5-6 signatures they need to hit at certain times in each match. You simply cannot ignore his work with Benoit during their feud. That is the greatest exchange of technical wrestling I've EVER seen. Intense moments, back and forth, no one really dominated any set, and you always thought it could go both ways. As for mic work, he was one of the best in the early 2000's to draw legitimate heat with his seemingly oblivious "holier than thou" gimmick. "Why do people boo me? I'm an Olympic Gold Medalist. I defended this country while you sat on your ass and ate pizza. *booooo* Oh it's true." Angle was admittedly a textbook coward heel at times, but it worked for him and his persona. It never got old, it's just what we expected.


I'll agree that he started to drop off after Mania(broken neck), but all of his work leading up to that point was golden.

 

[Mountain Rushmore]

I respect your opinion but when I read your words, I feel like you think of Angle as "good".....Let's be clear : Angle is one of the greatest of all time. Like him or not, I think we should all agree on that. When I read you, T think YOU are the one who underrate Kurt Angle.
In a ring, he's the total package : strengh, agility, stamina, speed, "craziness".....he's elite.
With a mic, he's also very talented and can be extremely fun....

Well, I won't force you to like Angle. As I say, everyone is entitled to his opinion but he's definitly one of the best of all time.

Strength, speed, agility, stamina, intensity... He has all of these in abundance, for sure. However, the sum all of that does not necessarily make someone an amazing in-ring talent. What I'm saying is he was repetitive and lacked psychology and emotion. So I was never attached to most of his matches. If there's no *click*, no connection, no mental/emotional investment whatsoever then it doesn't matter how many boxes he can check off in terms of technical prowess.

That's not to say I can't enjoy matches that aren't overtly emotional or "important". Because I can find some of that in any common tv match...if I am AT ALL invested in the characters involved. Even a little. That's why it always comes down and back to character for me. It's the be all, end all. If you have no character then I'm not going to enjoy anything you do.

His feud with Samoa Joe proves he's better than good. That he's capable of amazing work, in fact. But he's not consistent with it. And the majority of his career leaves me confused as to why so many think he's one of the best. Let alone *the* best.

 

[TJQ]

I like TheWeasel's tier model more than actual numbering (because i think it would get pretty inaccurate after the 5-10 area) so I'm going to do that.

Tier 1
CM Punk
Chris Benoit
Daniel Bryan
El Generico/Sami Zayn
Jay & Mark Briscoe
KENTA
Paul Heyman
Eddie Guerrero
Austin Aries
SCSA
Undertaker
Kurt Angle
Lita
HBK

Tier 2
Samoa Joe
Brock Lesnar
Kevin Steen
Rock
Dolph Ziggler
Seth Rollins
Chris Jericho
Cesaro
John Cena
AJ
Paige
Edge
Sheamus
Alberto Del Rio
Sabu

Tier 3
Swagger
Dean Ambrose
Randy Orton
Wade Barrett
Luke Harper
Cody Rhodes
Goldust
Kane
Jeff Hardy
Christian
RVD
Reigns
Rey Mysterio

 

[Mountain Rushmore]

Honestly, you could probably count on 1 hand how many wrestlers have a different formula for every match. I'm not saying everyone is Cena, but they all have a general gameplan with 5-6 signatures they need to hit at certain times in each match. You simply cannot ignore his work with Benoit during their feud. That is the greatest exchange of technical wrestling I've EVER seen. Intense moments, back and forth, no one really dominated any set, and you always thought it could go both ways. As for mic work, he was one of the best in the early 2000's to draw legitimate heat with his seemingly oblivious "holier than thou" gimmick. "Why do people boo me? I'm an Olympic Gold Medalist. I defended this country while you sat on your ass and ate pizza. *booooo* Oh it's true." Angle was admittedly a textbook coward heel at times, but it worked for him and his persona. It never got old, it's just what we expected from him.


I'll agree that he started to drop off after Mania, but all of his work leading up to that point was golden.

Everyone has a general game plan but Kurt's was too strict and it carried over to his PPV matches. Which, say what you will about Trips, Cena, Orton, and everyone else with a formula, they have few 20+ minute matches that are as same as I found many of Angles.

To be honest, the Benoit matches are everything you described and more (the reason I even still acknowledge such a horrible human being) but this all kind of plays into my above post. Kurt can be amazing but he was never consistently amazing and his character not really existing plays a bg part in that.

 

[#Mark]

The Rock
HBK
Daniel Bryan
Randy Savage
Bret Hart
Eddie Guerrero
Mick Foley
Steve Austin
Brian Pillman
Terry Funk
Jake Roberts
Jeff Hardy
Christian
Rey Mysterio
Owen Hart
Brock Lesnar
Kurt Angle

 

[Choke2Death]

I've never done this before, so I'll try as much as I can. First 10-15 are easy but then it becomes more of a challenge and is in no specific order.

Chris Benoit
Randy Orton
Brock Lesnar
Undertaker
Stone Cold Steve Austin
The Rock
Eddie Guerrero
Shawn Michaels
Ric Flair
Kurt Angle
John Cena
Chris Jericho
Rey Mysterio
Daniel Bryan
Triple H
Mick Foley
Edge
Christian
Bret Hart
Rob Van Dam
Sheamus
Batista
Finlay
Antonio Cesaro
Jake Roberts
Kane
Mark Henry
JBL
Hulk Hogan
Shelton Benjamin
Dean Malenko
Big Show
Vince McMahon
Shane McMahon
Jonathan Coachman
Tajiri
Booker T
Seth Rollins
Goldust
MVP
William Regal
Jerry Lawler
Umaga
Jeff Hardy
Matt Hardy
Trish Stratus
Mickie James
Victoria
Stephanie McMahon
The Dudleyz (as a tag team)

Was pretty much filling spots after 30 or so. But all of them have qualities I'm a fan of and in the case of the divas, I took more than just the eye-candy factor for the inclusion. Would also include more old school legends like Funk and Macho Man but I need to see more of their work for it to feel genuine.

 

[5 Star Giulia ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

Everyone has a general game plan but Kurt's was too strict and it carried over to his PPV matches. Which, say what you will about Trips, Cena, Orton, and everyone else with a formula, they have few 20+ minute matches that are as same as I found many of Angles.

To be honest, the Benoit matches are everything you described and more (the reason I even still acknowledge such a horrible human being) but this all kind of plays into my above post. Kurt can be amazing but he was never consistently amazing and his character not really existing plays a bg part in that.

I respect your opinion