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WWE World Heavyweight Champion: Randy Orton
WWE Intercontinental Champion: Vacant
WWE World Tag Team Champions: La Resistance
WWE Women's Champion: Trish Stratus

WWE Unforgiven
September 12th, 2004
Portland, Oregon


Ric Flair & Batista vs. William Regal & Chris Benoit
All combinations and interactions rule like usual, neither team can really gain control for long but the faces usually come out on the winning side of a lot of the strikes. Flair is super on with his comedy/old man bumping tonight. Evolution manages to isolate Regal, it's fun, they don't really pick a body part just beat him up with strikes, all good looking strikes at that. It's crazy how Flair's figure-four just seems to be a mid-way throwaway submission, as Benoit comes in to break it up. BUT FUCK ALL THAT! FLAIR DID SOME TYPE OF DESPERATION LUCHA ROLL TO TAG BATISTA IN! Batista does his own HEADLOCK RANDY! hold but Regal fights out and tags Benoit, who does his usual great hot tag, running forearms, nasty chops, and suplexes. He hits the triple on Flair and hits the Diving Headbutt but as he goes for the Sharpshooter Flair pokes him in the eye. But, Benoit comes right back with a crossface attempt but BATISTA DEADLIFTS BENOIT OUT OF IT AND DROPS HIM! Batista and Regal fight on the floor but Batista hits the post and is sent to the crowd, while in the ring, Benoit counters the Figure-Four attempt into the Crossface for the win. ***


Backstage: Trish, Christian, and Tomko are all walking, Trish and Christian argue on who Tomko will accompany to the ring tonight (you do know he can walk out twice right?) Christian says he brought him in to solve HIS problems, but Trish says that Christian said Tomko would solve any of her problems too. Trish says she's the one with a title on the line and needs Tomko to make sure some mystery woman doesn't get her from behind. christian says it wouldn't be the first time she took it from behind, she says Tomko should decide. She whispers something in his ear, and Tomko says he'll escort Trish to the ring one last time. They walk off, and Christian says she really is a slut. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU ENDING THIS?

WWE Woman's Championship: Victoria vs. Trish Stratus (w/Tyson Tomko)
A lot better than expected, heel Trish is great, constantly cheating, getting cocky and looking insanely hot. And this is Victoria's best showing all year, she doesn't look like she's going over the moves in her head as it happens and it's caught waiting for stuff. Victoria takes a great bump after going into the ringpost, and Trish works the neck, Victoria selling is pretty trash tho, she does semi-make up for it during her comeback which includes a headbutt and a dive onto Tomko cause FUCK HIM! but when she re-enters the ring she gets caught and Trish hits the strausfaction for the win. **3/4

After the Match; Tomko attacks Victoria and picks her up in the double choke hold, but the "Mystery Man" comes out and attacks Tomko and hits a DDT! As the crowd chant, "Stevie" Tomko grabs the mic, and says he's gonna solve the Mystery himself RIGHT NOW! JR calls it the worst kept secret, but King tells him to go along with it. So, JR does :lmao

Tyson Tomko vs. Mystery Woman
THIS GETS 6 AND A HALF FUCKING MINUTES, 6 OF THOSE MINUTES ARE TOMKO UNDRESSING THE MAN! AKA STEVEN RICHARDS! WITH STEVIE TRYING TO COVER HIS FACE SO WE DON'T SEE WHO IT IS, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE KNOWN SINCE THE FIRST TIME, WE SAW THIS SHIT! TYSON HAS A FUCKING HORRIBLE CONTROL ISOLATION PERIOD AND NOW IM DEBATING WOULD I RATHER WATCH THIS MATCH EVERY NIGHT OR MORDICI/HOLLY/GUNN EVERY DAY! FUCK WHO BOOKED THIS? WHY ARE THEY TRYING TO KILL RAW? Tomko calls him a sissy, which angers him the most and his comeback is a FUCKING DICK CLAW! He has this shitty, awful "anger" comeback with terrible dopkicks, but Stevie gets distracted looking at his bra on the mat, so Tomko his a spinning neckbreaker for the win. FUCK OFF! WORSE MATCH OF THE YEAR! WORSE THAN ALL THE TORRIE/DAWN OR TORRIE/SABLE MATCHES! WOW -*****

Ladder Match for the Vacant Intercontinental Championship: Chris Jericho vs. Christian
CLB rocking his Christmas inspired, green, red, white attire :mark: This starts off well, with the two of them just wrestling and doing their counter wrestling stuff which is always fun. They turn it into a brawl, and that's really good too, Jericho tries a crossody off the steps but Christian catches him with a boot to the gut and hits the unprettier on the floor. He takes too much time celebrating and climbing the ladder which allows Jericho to recover and pull him back down, the match now turns into a ladder match with the ladder being used as a weapon and spots with neither man successfully climbing the ladder. Cool spot, with the ladder set up standing and as Jericho goes for a running bulldog Christian throws him into the ladder, not really original, but, shit this is like the 12th ladder match since 2000. Both men take turns just beating the shit out of one another with the ladder, Jericho busts out the ladder/knee drop type move as he has Christian on his belly and leaps off the top dropping the ladder onto Christian previously injured back. They go a couple more minutes, and everything looks painful. They do the swinging spot with Christian hanging above the ring but Jericho grabs the ladder and hits him in the ribs causing Christian to fall to the mat. Jericho then has his failed attempt and hits throat first into the top rope. Both men climb up again and they do the walls spot on top, but it looks like shit compared to the Rumble 2001 one with Benoit. Christian shoves Jericho off who falls asshole first onto the side of the ladder. JESUS! A longer ladder is brought in, with both men fight over the belt, but the fuck up the finish with Jericho swinging the belt too far, it was supposed to hit Christian in the face but it went too far left and Christian tries to headbutt it but it barely hits him :lmao So they do a double face plant off the ladders, Jericho recovers first and climbs the ladder for the win. Tough, physical match. ***


Backstage: Todd Grisham goes to interview Kane, but Lita opens the door instead. Lita says she hopes Shawn Michaels beats the living hell out of her husband and hopes he crushes his throat for revenge. Kane comes over laughing, and says his wife is so supportive, he says Eric has made this match NoDQ. So, he's gonna destroy Shawn again, and his wife will be at ringside to watch it all. He then forces himself a KISS on his wife.

Backstage: Coachman interviews Jericho, Jericho says he feels like crap but being a 7 time IC champ is a record and feels like a king/champ. Edge comes over and congratulates him, he says he didn't come to rain on his parade, cause as soon as he's ready he's taking back what's his. Jericho says he'll be waiting.

No Disqualification Match: Shawn Michaels vs. Kane (w/Lita)
This gets 18 minutes because FUCK ME! Kane needs 18 minutes? So, essentially this isn't very good, for the most part, they work it as a straight single which means Kane wrestling so it's pretty awful. Pretty randumb and useless spot with Kane scoop slamming Shawn through the Spanish Tables, so Kane goes to work on the throat, which yeah, he should work the throat, but don't waste a table spot on a scoop slam if you're just gonna ignore any back work out of the random sidewalk slam or backdrop. Shawn doesn't tell shit anyway, so fuck all of this. Oh great, Shawn is now busted open after going into the ring post, this is just hilarious now. Kane grabs a chair but Shawn fights back, but for like the 15th time is cut off, I legit think 15 minutes in and Shawn's only offense has been his shitty punches, chops, and kicks. He hits his comeback stuff and hits the elbow drop, but Kane hits his own big boot to counter the SCM! Kane now goes up top and hits the clothesline, he goes for the Chokeslam but Shawn low blows him to break it. He grabs the chair and nails Kane with it, BUT KANE SITS UP! He goes to grab the chair, but Lita pulls it away. He argues with Lita and turns into Sweet Chin Music and Shawn covers to finally end this. First 16 minutes was awful, final 2 was decent enough to make this not worse than Tomko/Steven. *3/4

SHELTON BENJAMIN IS COMING BACK!

Backstage: Todd Grisham interviews Triple H, Todd asks Triple H if he thinks Orton will beat him tonight, just like he beat Benoit at SummerSlam :lmao:lmao:lmao Triple H says Randy Orton is just like everyone else, he's just regular, he says he spent his whole worrying about potential, he was a loser until he met him. He calls Evolution the best of the best, and he's the reason for it. He says he chose Randy Orton for greatness, and he became great. He says Orton is very, very good but just isn't as good as him, and Orton knows it. Orton wouldn't have suits, women, a new house, a nice car, and he sure as hell wouldn't have the World Championship. Without him. He says he made Orton and will break Orton. He says he will become a NINE TIME WORLD CHAMPION! Because that World Title is more important than life it's self. Orton spit in my face, so now I'll spit in your face and leave as World Champion.

WWE World Tag Team Championships: La Resistance vs. Rhyno & Tajiri
This is decent enough, it's nothing we haven't seen the past month and a half now? Both Rhyno and Tajiri get iso'ed during the match, it meh. The match breaks down and Sylvan hit Rhyno with the flag and covered to win. The only highlight was the crowd chanting "USA" during the Tajiri/Conway portion of the match 8D *3/4

Randy Orton/Triple H video package.

WWE World Heavyweight Championship: Triple H vs. Randy Orton
Early going is fun, with Orton out wrestling Hunter and embarrassing him with slaps and SPITS AGAIN! He then gets the better on the strikes too, until Hunter gets desperate and chop blocks the knee. He begins to work it and it's really good, I think Hunter works best working the knee cause he can just do all the stuff Flair did in the 80's. He wraps the knee around the ring post which I miss so much, GOD DAMN NEW ERA LED CARDBOARD RINGPOST GIMMICK! UGH! Orton's selling is tremendous, Hunter locks in the figure four, and for the 2nd match tonight, it's kinda used as a throwaway submission, like he locks it in for like 3 minutes and only breaks cause the ref Earl Hebner forces to break as he caught him using the ropes. Random as hell, Triple H gets busted open after being sent into the top of the ring post, lol he and Shawn really are BFF's. That sparks an Orton comeback, he "recovers" from his knee injury but out of instincts he hits the dropkick and reinjures the knee again, so that's awesome. He goes on to sell the leg pretty much the rest of the way or until the fuckery booking. The ref gets bumped, and Orton counters the Pedigree into the RKO. But no ref, so Flair and Batista run down, Orton manages to fight them off but Hunter low blows him and both men fall. But, here comes Coachman wearing a ref shirt he goes to count but Orton kicks out. Orton is first to his feet, and decks Coach but walks into a Batista spinebuster for another 2 count from Coach. Orton again counters the pedigree and drops Coach with an RKO. Flair is back in, he now has a chair but Orton pokes him in the eyes and drops him with an RKO. He then counters the Batista bomb with a low blow. But as he gets to his feet, Triple H KILLS HIM WITH A CHAIR SHOT! Hunter then follows with the pedigree on to the chair and slides the chair out and covers for the win. **3/4


King calls this Triple H's "DESTINY" as JR does his usual amazing hate rant about Triple H being a cheater and he doesn't think he can beat Orton 1on1.
 

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christian says it wouldn't be the first time she took it from behind, she says Tomko should decide. She whispers something in his ear, and Tomko says he'll escort Trish to the ring one last time. They walk off, and Christian says she really is a slut.
God I miss Ruthless Aggression and the TV-14 content.

This show was quite a fall from Summerslam just a month prior, but I guess that was really par the course for the split-brand B shows.

Absolute bullshit how Benoit went from defending the World Title in the main event of the 2nd biggest PPV of the year one month earlier to opening a B show in a tag match. At that rate, it was probably a small miracle that they even booked him to at least win.
 

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I would have liked seeing Orton with the title until New Years Revolution. Benoit gets a rematch at Unforgiven. at Taboo maybe a triple threat match with any combination of Orton/Benoit/HHH/Michaels/Edge. or maybe a elimination fatal 4 way. fuck it. Survivor Series stays the same and at New Years Revolution HHH takes the title and defends it at Rumble so we can still get that great feud with him and Batista. one of my favorite feuds ever.

btw will you do reviews into 2005 too? I think thats really an underrated year for WWE. they had some great feuds and matches. 2006 was already a year when I first stopped watching so that wont interest me :grin2:
 

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I was going to make the same comment as above. Why the hell did Chris Beniot drop so far down the card after his title run? I thought he did a great job as champion, and should have remained a permanent fixture in the upper mid card. Oh well. I was not a fan of this show because Randy was white hot as a babyface at this time and Triple H just had to steal the spot light. This would have been one of those 'what could have been' moments, if Orton had gone over Triple H. I still think Batista would have ended up as a bigger star than Orton in the end, but that does not change the fact that Randy deserved a longer run at the top.

All in all, a very interesting period in pro wrestling.
 

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God I miss Ruthless Aggression and the TV-14 content.

This show was quite a fall from Summerslam just a month prior, but I guess that was really par the course for the split-brand B shows.

Absolute bullshit how Benoit went from defending the World Title in the main event of the 2nd biggest PPV of the year one month earlier to opening a B show in a tag match. At that rate, it was probably a small miracle that they even booked him to at least win.
Yeah, i felt and still feel away, the only reason i wasn't so upset was i got Batista/Benoit and Benoit/Flair which have ruled all year on RAW.

I would have liked seeing Orton with the title until New Years Revolution. Benoit gets a rematch at Unforgiven. at Taboo maybe a triple threat match with any combination of Orton/Benoit/HHH/Michaels/Edge. or maybe a elimination fatal 4 way. fuck it. Survivor Series stays the same and at New Years Revolution HHH takes the title and defends it at Rumble so we can still get that great feud with him and Batista. one of my favorite feuds ever.

btw will you do reviews into 2005 too? I think thats really an underrated year for WWE. they had some great feuds and matches. 2006 was already a year when I first stopped watching so that wont interest me :grin2:
1. Yeah, as I rewatched it and thought about it. I would have had Orton remain in Evolution, and built up the story with Orton getting even cockier as the months go by, even to the point of having him talk down to Triple H in a few segments to where Triple H snaps and then we do the beatdown. Or do all that then at the Chamber in 05 have all the same guys, i guess Batista would be replaced but do the spot where it looks like Triple H recovered in time to break a pin, but falls down. Still have Hunter reclaim the gold and possibly build to a mania match with that. but I would never opt to undo that all-time amazing angle and phenomenal beatdown.

I'm still debating watching 2005, i probably at some point in the future want to watch it. But i have other things i wanna rewatch first, like 1998 WCW and WWF. Also, 2000 ECW.

I was going to make the same comment as above. Why the hell did Chris Beniot drop so far down the card after his title run? I thought he did a great job as champion, and should have remained a permanent fixture in the upper mid card. Oh well. I was not a fan of this show because Randy was white hot as a babyface at this time and Triple H just had to steal the spot light. This would have been one of those 'what could have been' moments, if Orton had gone over Triple H. I still think Batista would have ended up as a bigger star than Orton in the end, but that does not change the fact that Randy deserved a longer run at the top.

All in all, a very interesting period in pro wrestling.
I remember reading that Orton did some dumbshit or he did something and they thought he was still too immature to be world champ. I could be wrong tho. Plus they needed a new fresh main event babyface. We've already seen Benoit vs. Triple H and Shawn vs. Triple H that year.
 

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at the Chamber in 05 have all the same guys, i guess Batista would be replaced but do the spot where it looks like Triple H recovered in time to break a pin, but falls down
oh I wouldnt change that. that was great. I think on RAW Orton showed the footage of that while both Batista and HHH were in the ring and Batista was pissed off. I remember many segments with HHH and Batista getting in each others face, arguing and Batista being all disgusted with some of Flairs and HHHs antics going back to november of 04. you could tell Batista was done with them after that. it was just a matter of time.
 

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When I first watched this I was so sad that Benoit wasn't champ anymore and then I was pretty salty af when HHH got it back. Eight year old me was not happy.
 

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btw will you do reviews into 2005 too? I think thats really an underrated year for WWE. they had some great feuds and matches. 2006 was already a year when I first stopped watching so that wont interest me :grin2:
I thought 2005 was fantastic. The Rumble PPV was brilliant top to bottom (even with the botched Rumble match finish). Wrestlemania was fire, and it was one of the last time WWE got really creative with the "Wrestlemania Goes Hollywood" theme. Judgment Day 2005 had the brutal Cena vs. JBL I Quit match, which I think is one of the best and most underrated matches of both guy's careers. Then of course ECW One Night Stand, and Vengeance 2005 was one of the best ever single-brand PPVs- helped by the fact that Raw had both world titles mid-draft. The second half of the year wasn't as strong, and we lost Eddie, but the first six months of 2005 is pure gold.

As for the review, continuing to enjoy them all. When I think Unforgiven 2004, all I think of is the awful Tomko vs. Stevie match, so it's nice to see there was actually some decent stuff in the PPV going by this review. Nicely done OP.
 
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