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NXT's numbers had been in freefall so this week has arrested that, so good news there. But it's taken a big shot (Balor's return) just to stop the decline. Will be interesting to see if they double down with more MR talent to push the ratings back up.

Probably not yet. We'll see how the Balor story plays out
If they keep losing, I fully expect to see more synergy between RAW and NXT. Perhaps a major story starts on RAW but viewers are told that you must see the conclusion on NXT. Perhaps Vince makes a major announcement on NXT. Maybe an intrapromotional war starts between RAW and them.
 

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Must be tough knowing you put on a better show 10 fold over AEW. Bigger arena doesn't make a better show. Still looks cheap. AEW was really average this week. Zero stories, primary match included a backyard wrestler. They just don't care. Just throw money out the window and over pay "wrestlers" to satisfy an ADD zero diversity crowd. Just because less watched doesn't take away from the fact that NXT destroyed them with quality entertainment. Every single week they are solid. Doing better with less money and smaller production values.
 

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Must be tough knowing you put on a better show 10 fold over AEW. Bigger arena doesn't make a better show. Still looks cheap. AEW was really average this week. Zero stories, primary match included a backyard wrestler. They just don't care. Just throw money out the window and over pay "wrestlers" to satisfy an ADD zero diversity crowd. Just because less watched doesn't take away from the fact that NXT destroyed them with quality entertainment. Every single week they are solid. Doing better with less money and smaller production values.
It's not because something is really good for you that the majority of fans will also like it.

I watch both shows and i like both shows for differents reasons.

The problem with NXT is that you know that one day or an other those wrestlers will get called up and they're going to be booked like shit.
 

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NXT ain't drawing. They need to change things up desperately.

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NXT will never draw and I doubt they care, its primary objective is to take viewers away from AEW.
Basically this is true they are not here to draw new viewers but more like dent aew
 

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Increasing 5% in the key demo is the right way to look at it. Not even losing much viewers with the competition (when everyone saying baseball is 50+ demo) is good. I really like that NXT doesnt do stupid things and keep to their great product!!
 

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NXT ain't drawing. They need to change things up desperately.

:ha

Well they finally gave wins to both Garza and Swerve so it looks like they're headed in the right direction, now they just need to get Dream back on TV and focus on their charismatic people.
 

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Must be tough knowing you put on a better show 10 fold over AEW. Bigger arena doesn't make a better show. Still looks cheap. AEW was really average this week. Zero stories, primary match included a backyard wrestler. They just don't care. Just throw money out the window and over pay "wrestlers" to satisfy an ADD zero diversity crowd. Just because less watched doesn't take away from the fact that NXT destroyed them with quality entertainment. Every single week they are solid. Doing better with less money and smaller production values.
I think it depends on one's perspective. Personally, for me, the ratings are totally justified. Chris Jericho alone is 10x more entertaining than what NXT has put out. And they had quite the solid show to back it up as well, probably their best so far. I think NXT is fine, not Raw or Smackdown Bad. But hey its not prime television either.

P.S: I also think that they turned Finn Balor heel only because they wanted something similar to what AEW is doing with Jericho. Yes having seen Vince and Triple H all these years.. They can be that petty :lol
 

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I think it depends on one's perspective. Personally, for me, the ratings are totally justified. Chris Jericho alone is 10x more entertaining than what NXT has put out. And they had quite the solid show to back it up as well, probably their best so far. I think NXT is fine, not Raw or Smackdown Bad. But hey its not prime television either.

P.S: I also think that they turned Finn Balor heel only because they wanted something similar to what AEW is doing with Jericho. Yes having seen Vince and Triple H all these years.. They can be that petty :lol
Actually turning Finn is a brilliant move. I don't think what AEW was doing or not doing had the impact on what they did with Finn. Finn turning heel was a classic face turn to heel turn. Very simple concept, but very effective. Plus the fact that nobody saw it coming helped alot. AEW Chris Jericho is doing a totally different thing.

But on which show put out the better product is very subjective. Everyone has their favorites and such. As you mention Chris Jericho is your key guy on AEW you like. For me on NXT, guys like Matt Riddle are very entertaining. My opinion obviously, but I wouldn't trade him for any guy or tag team on the current AEW roster. And Matt's not even my top favorite guy on NXT either. So you get the picture of where I'm coming from. AEW has some interesting guys, like MJF. He's pretty good, but I need to see a lot more of him. So far AEW barely uses him.
 

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Basically this is true they are not here to draw new viewers but more like dent aew
The fact that NJPW and ROH got popular enough to launch a group like Bullet Club and The Elite, which then spun into an even bigger rival promotion in AEW, shows that NXT has already been failing its mission to keep the competition down.
 

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they don't need to steal fans, they are doing fine right now, is it ideal, of course not, but lets not get hyperbolic and say they are going to get pulled when they have been a top 5 show for 2 weeks and top 10 the other.
True for the short- and intermediate-term, but I think we both agree that AEW's long-term objective is to, slowly but surely, shave fans off the edges of WWE's base.

I think NXT is close to their floor. If they didn't drop more than they should have considering the competition, then likely what you saw last night was their core audience distilled.

Same with AEW too.
Agreed. AEW seems to have more growth potential, as NXT is coasting off existing WWE fans and isn't attracting new viewers.

Actually turning Finn is a brilliant move. I don't think what AEW was doing or not doing had the impact on what they did with Finn.
Agreed; there isn't anything to suggest that Finn's turn was inspired by Jericho. Finn was incredibly stale; a shift off the main roster and simultaneous turn was a fantastic move.

The fact that NJPW and ROH got popular enough to launch a group like Bullet Club and The Elite, which then spun into an even bigger rival promotion in AEW, shows that NXT has already been failing its mission to keep the competition down.
Wait...was that NXT's mission?
 

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Actually turning Finn is a brilliant move. I don't think what AEW was doing or not doing had the impact on what they did with Finn. Finn turning heel was a classic face turn to heel turn. Very simple concept, but very effective. Plus the fact that nobody saw it coming helped alot. AEW Chris Jericho is doing a totally different thing.

But on which show put out the better product is very subjective. Everyone has their favorites and such. As you mention Chris Jericho is your key guy on AEW you like. For me on NXT, guys like Matt Riddle are very entertaining. My opinion obviously, but I wouldn't trade him for any guy or tag team on the current AEW roster. And Matt's not even my top favorite guy on NXT either. So you get the picture of where I'm coming from. AEW has some interesting guys, like MJF. He's pretty good, but I need to see a lot more of him. So far AEW barely uses him.
well..In hindsight, with the way Finn has been booked I would agree as well...But with AEW or NXT, sadly No..cant really get past Jericho who has been killing it ....Triple H and his Nxt booking is fine to an extent but the big picture for me doesn't cut it really...
 

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W-W:
0.580M [41st] [ - 0.118M | - 16.91% ]
0.180D [32nd] [ - 0.030D | - 14.29% ]

NXT | AEW:
0.580M | 0.759M [ - 0.179M | - 23.58% ]
0.180D | 0.330D [ - 0.150D | - 45.45% ]

W-W | NXT + AEW:
1.339M [ - 0.322M | - 19.39% ]
0.510D [ - 0.150D | - 22.73% ]


 

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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S.'ing THE NUMBERS.

For NXT, the Finn Balor promo grew 30,000 viewers. I had expected Balor promo vs. Hikaru Shida to be close, but AEW had a 795,000 to 607,000 edge. Bronson Reed vs. Shane Thorne lost 62,000 viewers. The women’s tag title match gained 143,000 viewers, so they ended up meaning far more than Balor. The War Games angle after the match lost 39,000 viewers. Grimes vs. Bate lost 163,000 viewers. Bobby Fish & Kyle O’Reilly vs. Matt Riddle & Keith Lee lost 27,000 viewers in the head-to-head, but when AEW ended, they gained 145,000 viewers in the overrun so that’s probably a lot of AEW viewers. It probably also kills them in the last quarter because fans watch the NXT main events in fewer numbers knowing they can watch the AEW closing angle and miss nothing on NXT and still see its closing angle.


NXT did very close to AEW from 9 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. with Asuka & Kairi Sane vs. Dakota Kai & Tegan Nox, going against the Jericho contract signing and Young Bucks & Omega match. The AEW edge was 730,000 to 679,000 during that half hour, the closest it has come. But NXT collapsed in the last half hour of the show with the Tyler Bate vs. Cameron Grimes match and tag title match, with the head-to-head tag title matches doing 781,000 to 467,000.

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The push for NXT has started. It'll be interesting to see how this impacts ratings.
 
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