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LMAO so WWE are playing the long game, yet AEW is in trouble because their ratings for a new show is dippinig yet its still better than NXT .


NXT is an established product and AEW is brand new, NXT is in serous trouble if it cant even beat AEW espeically where NEXT is getting crushed in key demos.
I love how Woody moves the goal posts for NXT but is all over AEW when a rating goes down. No one can tell me that guy isn't a hater of AEW.

I dislike posters like him who get a kick out of wanting wrestling companies to fail.

We should want everything to be great. That's the thing both shows are the best wrestling programmes around.
It’s not moving goalposts at all. You can tell by the angles they are running. NXT isn’t hot-shotting a single thing, which they can if they get into real trouble. AEW are burning their candles a lot faster. Ending with brawls, going through gimmick matches, stretcher jobs, etc. This is observable.

The most hectic thing that has happened in NXT was that brawl the first week and then Velveteen Dream making fun of Roddy’s dick, lol. There has been no major angle. No turns. No faction forming. The biggest matches still loom. They haven’t brought a star in to cut killer promos.

This isn’t shifting the goalposts, by any definition. This is what you can and can’t see on television. You can either deduce — falsely, I believe — that it’s because NXT are going full sprint and can’t keep up with AEW. Or you can deduce that NXT are taking it slow on purpose, waiting for AEW to cool down or until a big star becomes available. That is when they will hit the promotion and the larger venues.

The difference is that if NXT gets yanked they can just go back to the network, if AEW gets yanked then it's over. The troubling thing is that AEW isn't really stealing any fans from the WWE.
Their target audience isnt WWE fans, its wrestling fans who want an alternative. Many in that category gave up on WWE long ago so it wouldn't have a significant impact.

And you only have a 2 week sample size of NXT without AEW to go against, not nearly long enough.
They’re going the wrong way about capturing those fans. They are doing the exact things that drove people away.

The demographic rating matters way more than the total viewership , you people are from the U.S.A (I am not), you should know that better than me.
It doesn’t matter “way more” than viewership. It’s arguably the most important demo to advertisers, who don’t trust wrestling anyway. It’s not the be-all/end-all.
 

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Lol NXT did a Takeover during the first week with a lot of title matches and it's AEW who hot shotting things XD
Yep exactly. Nxt put on a takeover show. And they are not putting on a bad product at all. I prefer aew but let's not act like nxt have not done hotshotting and big matches. Nxt have been putting on massive matches on weekly shows something they rarely did before
 

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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S.'ing THE NUMBERS.

NXT us a pointless show with guys who are just going to be brought up and wasted. If it wasn't under the WWE banner nobody would give a damn.
 

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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S.'ing THE NUMBERS.

NXT is very profitable for USA. Especially on the deal they made with WWE. Plus they actually have an audience now on Wednesdays. TNT was getting better ratings showing movies. So, let's see how things work out.
Please show where TNT was getting better ratings with movies. Because the first 3 weeks of last October TNT had no shows in the top 50 on Wednesday, let alone top 5, and only one week did they have any shows in the top 150, and that was a couple of afternoon soccer matches that got 4x fewer demo and total viewers than AEW.
 

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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S.'ing THE NUMBERS.

It’s not moving goalposts at all. You can tell by the angles they are running. NXT isn’t hot-shotting a single thing, which they can if they get into real trouble. AEW are burning their candles a lot faster. Ending with brawls, going through gimmick matches, stretcher jobs, etc. This is observable.

The most hectic thing that has happened in NXT was that brawl the first week and then Velveteen Dream making fun of Roddy’s dick, lol. There has been no major angle. No turns. No faction forming. The biggest matches still loom. They haven’t brought a star in to cut killer promos.

This isn’t shifting the goalposts, by any definition. This is what you can and can’t see on television. You can either deduce — falsely, I believe — that it’s because NXT are going full sprint and can’t keep up with AEW. Or you can deduce that NXT are taking it slow on purpose, waiting for AEW to cool down or until a big star becomes available. That is when they will hit the promotion and the larger venues.



They’re going the wrong way about capturing those fans. They are doing the exact things that drove people away.



It doesn’t matter “way more” than viewership. It’s arguably the most important demo to advertisers, who don’t trust wrestling anyway. It’s not the be-all/end-all.
Yes it is the be-all and end-all for sports and entertainment shows. Total viewers don't matter, they don't make money for all those extra viewers, thats why a show like the office made more money than many of the shows on CBS at the time even though CBS had 2x or more total viewers for those shows. And its why the office is getting a ton of money in syndication and streaming rights. This is true of any show on tv, they don't sell adds based on total viewers they sell them based on demo ratings, be it the key demo, which wrestling would fall into, or the "news" demo which is 25-55, or gender demos like male or female 18-49, or kid demos. That's how ratings work, that is why RAW is one of the top shows on cable every year and not Hannity or Rachel Meadow.
 

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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S.'ing THE NUMBERS.

The difference is that if NXT gets yanked they can just go back to the network, if AEW gets yanked then it's over. The troubling thing is that AEW isn't really stealing any fans from the WWE.
they don't need to steal fans, they are doing fine right now, is it ideal, of course not, but lets not get hyperbolic and say they are going to get pulled when they have been a top 5 show for 2 weeks and top 10 the other.

The same goes for NXT, it's still performing better in the demo than what USA would show before, the first 3 Wednesdays in October last year USA didn't have any shows in the top 150. Neither show is in any danger of getting yanked.
 

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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S.'ing THE NUMBERS.

AEW will be pretty happy with these numbers. Almost unchanged from last week. Their first priority was to stop the decline in numbers (a big one from week one to two) and this is the first indication that that is happening. Only one week but that's all there is.

NXT is not going to be so happy. They are still on a fast downward trajectory and 500K is not far off at this rate. Balor is going to be back on tv duty fast and I can see more main roster sharing
 

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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S.'ing THE NUMBERS.

It’s not moving goalposts at all. You can tell by the angles they are running. NXT isn’t hot-shotting a single thing, which they can if they get into real trouble. AEW are burning their candles a lot faster. Ending with brawls, going through gimmick matches, stretcher jobs, etc. This is observable.

The most hectic thing that has happened in NXT was that brawl the first week and then Velveteen Dream making fun of Roddy’s dick, lol. There has been no major angle. No turns. No faction forming. The biggest matches still loom. They haven’t brought a star in to cut killer promos.

This isn’t shifting the goalposts, by any definition. This is what you can and can’t see on television. You can either deduce — falsely, I believe — that it’s because NXT are going full sprint and can’t keep up with AEW. Or you can deduce that NXT are taking it slow on purpose, waiting for AEW to cool down or until a big star becomes available. That is when they will hit the promotion and the larger venues.



They’re going the wrong way about capturing those fans. They are doing the exact things that drove people away.



It doesn’t matter “way more” than viewership. It’s arguably the most important demo to advertisers, who don’t trust wrestling anyway. It’s not the be-all/end-all.
You think NXT is idling on purpose rather than HHH just being completely bankrupt creatively?
 

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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S.'ing THE NUMBERS.



W-W:
0.698M [33rd] [ - 0.014M | - 1.97% ]
0.210D [21st] [ + 0.010D | + 5.00% ]

NXT | AEW:
0.698M | 0.963M [ - 0.265M | - 27.52% ]
0.210D | 0.450D [ - 0.240D | - 53.33% ]

W-W | NXT + AEW:
1.661M [ - 0.065M | - 3.77% ]
0.660D [ + 0.020D | + 3.13% ]


 

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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S.'ing THE NUMBERS.

I don’t understand it like that, can you simplify it for dummies like me?
 

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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S.'ing THE NUMBERS.

They had 698k viewers, down slightly from last week. .21 in the key demo.
 

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I think NXT is close to their floor. If they didn't drop more than they should have considering the competition, then likely what you saw last night was their core audience distilled.

Same with AEW too.
 

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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S.'ing THE NUMBERS.

Yeah both shows only saw minimal decreases even with the stiff competition for the night.

NXT will probably land somewhere around 700-800k viewers and AEW will be right around a million or slightly more.
 

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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S.'ing THE NUMBERS.

Damn, both NXT and AEW need to get their shit together FAST.



Ratings are proving more and more that both shows are catered to the hardcore minority that always watch and don't appeal to anyone else. Very few casual fans want to watch long match after long match with minimal promos/out-of-ring segments and with barely any stars.



The next 3-4 months will be very interesting
 

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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S.'ing THE NUMBERS.

NXT's numbers had been in freefall so this week has arrested that, so good news there. But it's taken a big shot (Balor's return) just to stop the decline. Will be interesting to see if they double down with more MR talent to push the ratings back up.

Probably not yet. We'll see how the Balor story plays out
 
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