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1.8 million paid.
Subtract the subscriptions for 99 cents for 3 months or 1.99 for 3 months, and you have pretty much the same number as last year.
 

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I dont really buy the 2 million number. I am sure that the real number is a much lower number.

Despite that, WWE Network has an impressive subscription count. Much higher than most SVOD products in the market. WWE doesnt need to fabricate numbers, we know that what they have accomplished is very impressive, and doing that despite having such a crappy programming and lineup.

To be fair, they will improve in the future. Something to Wrestle With podcast will definitely draw people to join the Network.
They have to put real numbers in their quarterly reports to shareholders as a public company. That's why we get detailed breakdown in terms of how much of that is paid subscribers.

Trust, the numbers will be much higher if they could make it up and they wouldn't say how many are unpaid.

Its impressive for a niche product. Isn't it in the top 10 paid for streaming services currently?
 

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They have to put real numbers in their quarterly reports to shareholders as a public company. That's why we get detailed breakdown in terms of how much of that is paid subscribers.

Trust, the numbers will be much higher if they could make it up and they wouldn't say how many are unpaid.

Its impressive for a niche product. Isn't it in the top 10 paid for streaming services currently?
I am not 100% sure to be honest. I dont believe they are in the top 10. Top 30 maybe.
 

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I honestly watch more WWE Network lately than Netflix.
I'm not even kidding. I've started watching WCW Saturday Night which they recently added.
I am pleased with the Network and it's not based on a single outcome of a single "PPV".

I think it's hilarious that everytime there's a scripted outcome on a PPV (which it's not really PPV anymore btw), or the Network numbers are touted by WWE (why wouldn't they tout the numbers), a fringe of butt hurt "fans" come out of the wood work to complain about it and threaten or announce their subscription cancellation or how they are so glad they aren't a subscriber because XYZ PPV was a DISGRACE! The horrors!!!

Do you complain too everytime Netflix adds a movie or TV show you don't like?
Or do you just not watch it? Can you imagine if people reacted like that?
"THAT LAST EPISODE OF BREAKING BAD WAS GARBAGE! I'M CANCELLING NETFLIX. THAT'LL SHOW EM!"
Come on people.

Just disgusting entitlement is all it seems to be. The Network is 10 bucks a month. You get a huge event like Wrestlemania for free or $10. People used to pay upwards of 70 bucks for one event. Now we pay 10 bucks a month for an entire library of content plus that single event. Your grievances to me are absurd and annoying.


Whatever the reality of their subscriber numbers, they are still obviously doing very well.
All the whining and complaining won't change that.
WWE doesn't care if you cancelled over a single event because I think they are more concerned with loyal subscribers and not the ones who join and/or cancel over a single event. :rolleyes:

I didn't LOVE Wrestlemania last night overall, but I LOVED Ronda Rousey's Wrestlemania match and moment and ACCESS to that entertainment as part of the overall show is definitely worth the small amount asked. My final point is, basing your Network decision on a single event is absurd or even this years events. Are people so stupid that they don't understand what the Network is? They HONESTLY should restrict access to you people to JUST the single event so THEN your stupid complaints would be valid.


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DAMN.
 

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WWE Network having more subscribers than HBO is laughable. Not the first time Forbes has posted BS news, and it won't be the last.

Let's say for the sake of argument that it's true, how are the WWE Network doing in 2018?
HBO Now =/= HBO the channel. Game of Thrones has driven its growth massively in that time though at it now has nearly 4 million subscribers but in 2015 it barely had over a million.
 

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I honestly watch more WWE Network lately than Netflix.
I'm not even kidding. I've started watching WCW Saturday Night which they recently added.
I am pleased with the Network and it's not based on a single outcome of a single "PPV".

I think it's hilarious that everytime there's a scripted outcome on a PPV (which it's not really PPV anymore btw), or the Network numbers are touted by WWE (why wouldn't they tout the numbers), a fringe of butt hurt "fans" come out of the wood work to complain about it and threaten or announce their subscription cancellation or how they are so glad they aren't a subscriber because XYZ PPV was a DISGRACE! The horrors!!!

Do you complain too everytime Netflix adds a movie or TV show you don't like?
Or do you just not watch it? Can you imagine if people reacted like that?
"THAT LAST EPISODE OF BREAKING BAD WAS GARBAGE! I'M CANCELLING NETFLIX. THAT'LL SHOW EM!"
Come on people.

Just disgusting entitlement is all it seems to be. The Network is 10 bucks a month. You get a huge event like Wrestlemania for free or $10. People used to pay upwards of 70 bucks for one event. Now we pay 10 bucks a month for an entire library of content plus that single event. Your grievances to me are absurd and annoying.


Whatever the reality of their subscriber numbers, they are still obviously doing very well.
All the whining and complaining won't change that.
WWE doesn't care if you cancelled over a single event because I think they are more concerned with loyal subscribers and not the ones who join and/or cancel over a single event. <img src="http://www.wrestlingforum.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" title="rolleyes" class="inlineimg" />

I didn't LOVE Wrestlemania last night overall, but I LOVED Ronda Rousey's Wrestlemania match and moment and ACCESS to that entertainment as part of the overall show is definitely worth the small amount asked. My final point is, basing your Network decision on a single event is absurd or even this years events. Are people so stupid that they don't understand what the Network is? They HONESTLY should restrict access to you people to JUST the single event so THEN your stupid complaints would be valid.


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DAMN.
Spot on. It's why I'm subbed to The Network. It's also what I tried to explain to the Anime Community about Funimation Now, Crunchyroll or Vrv. I used to pay $30 for 4 episodes on dvd, can now get hundreds of shows in their entirety for $6-8/month and these fucks still pirate content and try to justify it as anything other than entitled stealing.
 

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I wouldn't relax looking at this bubble. There is not always going to be room for growth and WWE is making themselves one of the most expendable and least prioritized forms of entertainment. I honestly think Vince's plan is to just ride the free thing for as long as he can and hopes he out-stubborns people into staying with them. And then if it flops, oh well, back to the old model. It'll be interesting to see where interest/willingness and profitability all intersect, and where the "Let's make Mania free" model hits its roof.
 

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Cool they managed to get all those people to sign up for free.
Give it a couple months and we'll see what the real number is.
You guys get it. WWE is cooking the numbers. I'll get back to this later.

WWE Network is fucking amazing and worth the price. The old school library brings so many tears to my eyes, it's like I'm a kid again, reliving the best times in wrestling. I watch the newer stuff here and there, but, most of my time is devoted to when wrestling was good.
I will give The Network props for the archives. It is fantastic although not to get an entity shut down anywhere I do know a place that KILLS them with the archives. I'm sure some people on here know where I'm talking about too. They have all the decades of WWE somehow and even some original NWA stuff. I won't rat them out though because I genuinely think Vince would sue the hell out of them if he finds out.

Can't believe people are trashing 2 million number. "That's sad" ?? really? You know how many subscribers NJPW's network has? A whopping 32,000.
The number is good for subscription models, but still nothing to write home about for WWE.

I know a little something about this streaming stuff(not going to get into it about some of the background). Streaming services DON'T MAKE MONEY. It is about hype and creating buzz for your products. That is the simplest way I will explain this. Look into things like Tidal and you will see what I'm talking about. It's a loss leader which is why WWE is giving it away for free with hopes of keeping a percentage.

I also think if this streaming service happened during the hey day of Austin and Rock and Hogan these numbers would be much higher. 1999 this kind of thing drops and the masses would be eating it up.

Imagine the WWE's old model was ppv and house shows each month at accelerated prices compared to now with prices ranging from .99 to $13 depending on where in the world you are.

I really think this is a bunch of hype over nothing when you consider the type of ratings pro wrestling use to get in its prime and what people were willing to pay for on a monthly basis for the industry.

WWE is doing this number with the back catalog of the industry.

The number is good, but for where WWE WAS this number is not all that impressive especially with all the gimmicks they are doing to get people to sign up for free years later after its launch.

If rumors are to be true Undertaker's win streak was sacrificed for the network. Think about that.
 

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Breaking: WWE NETWORK surpasses TWO MILLION subscribers for the first time ever

The Network has been around for 4 years now and has 4 WM's under the Network's belt and it still hasn't hit 2 million paid subs despite being available worldwide and for less than $10. That's....sad.

Even the 1.8 million paid number was aided big time by offers of 99 cents, $1.99, and $2.99.

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Exactly what I was thinking.

Look I think the Network is a nice offering but 2 million subscribers WORLDWIDE after 4 years in operation? And taking into account the constant free/reduced price promotions they offer? Come on.

Also, obviously, the subscriber # itself means nothing. What’s the upkeep cost of the Network per year? What’s the average price paid per subscriber per year after factoring in all the discounted/free months?
 

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I also think if this streaming service happened during the hey day of Austin and Rock and Hogan these numbers would be much higher. 1999 this kind of thing drops and the masses would be eating it up.

Imagine the WWE's old model was ppv and house shows each month at accelerated prices compared to now with prices ranging from .99 to $13 depending on where in the world you are.
1998-april 2001 was an outlier over the past 28 years though not the norm. Boom periods only last a certain length of time as UFC have shown.

There is reason wwe share price was ~$7-8 in 2012 when wwe announced mania 28 had done record business whereas it's $37-38 now. During the ppv model mania did great while rumble and Summerslam did well but other shows were doing 150-200k whereas today wwe has 1.5 million paid average during slow ppv months like September/October and December. They have gone from $15 million in ppv revenue during non mania quarters to $50 million today in non mania quarters.

2010 total ppv revenue for the company was $70 million, last year the network/ppv segment generated $197 million
 
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