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· Celestial Messiah
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WWE has a rich history of "dropping the ball", that is why I was against Del Rio winning the Rumble after being in the WWE for a short time. One minute a superstar may seem like they're going to get a great push, and then for one reason or another they're thrown in the jobber category/tag team. Here's a list of superstars that I've compiled over the years who have fell victim:

1. Heindenrich
2. Snitsky
3. Christian
4. Rene Dupree
5. Rob Conway
6. Mark Jindrak
7. Kenzo Suzuki
8. Khali
9. Mr. Kennedy
10.MVP
11.Orlando Jordan
12.Maven
13.Dibiase
14.Stuttering Matt Morgan
15.Vladamir
16.Goldust (when he returned in 2002, then two other times he returned after)
17.Regal
18. Val Venis (could've made it to the top)
19. Most of the spirit squad
20.Test
21.Umaga

Now after 10 years of talent that have come in and out of the WWE, who are the only ones currently in the WWE that have turned out to be big stars? Orton and Cena. That's why they're shoving guys like Del Rio, Ziggler and Sheamus down our throats because Michaels is gone, Batista is gone, Triple H and Taker are going to continue getting injured frequently. Still no Jericho yet.
1. Tag team reign was more than he deserved
2. Not that good
3. Yes. They did, get over it
4. Not that good. All he had was that stupid dance
5. High class talent right there
6. Who?
7. They were planning a big push for him. But in fear of the yakuza he declined.
8. They pushed the fuck out of his useless ass
9. He fucked himself over
10. Yeah, they did
11. Fuck him.
12. Eliminated Taker in the Rumble, and that was still more than he deserved
13. I dont see anything special about him at all. yet
14. Dunno
15. Pushed him to the moon. He bombed and nobody gave a shit
16. He always did great in the WWE. Not world title material though
17. He screwed himself with the drug violation
18. No. He couldnt. Definition of midcard talent
19. The only talented one on it is getting pushed
20. Shit in the ring. No charisma. No mic skills. Just good look. They pushed him and it bombed
21. Um, he got drug violated and died. And before that, he basically got as big of a push a monster heel can get.

So you critisize the WWE for not pushing talent right and shoving guys down our throats, yet a large part of your list is guys nobody gave a fuck about, they were forced on us, still didnt get over. Or they just sucked.

Make up your mind.
 

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hes much better now. he had a lot of pushes and it never really worked out that well. even the ecw one with zeke and regal was pretty boring.
hes over now and hes better in the ring that he used to be and hes also in better shape. im just a bit worried whats gonna happen with him when they split him up from santino
 

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Kozlov's always been overrated, nobody ever really care about him and Triple H vs Kozlov was boring as heel, zero chemistry, fans on Xanax who is terrible for a PPV main event.
Kane vs Undertaker was the worst match of the year and that didn't stop WWE from giving it to us multiple times.
 

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You can only 'drop the ball' with someone, who actually has talent, but bad booking. For example MVP with his face turn. You can't 'drop the ball' with someone who's failing with a good push. In Kozlovs case he was getting good booking and they thankfully dropped his push due to him being pretty damn terrible. The crowd were completely indifferent, he couldn't talk, he didn't have a good look (imo), and his in ring work was awful. The Survivor Series 08 main event still makes me shudder to think of it...

The guy had a massive undefeated streak, he beat Undertaker clean, got a title match and nobody cares, he didn't do anything actually good throughout his entire push. He's actually performing better right now, as the comedy sidekick to Santino Marella.
 

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he couldn't talk, he didn't have a good look (imo), and his in ring work was awful. The Survivor Series 08 main event still makes me shudder to think of it...
= blame the gimmick, not the wrestler (why can't you all in this forum, separate a gimmick from a wrestler ? Do you really think that Nick Dinsmore was really retarded ?)

He's actually performing better right now, as the comedy sidekick to Santino Marella.
= totally agree, he needs a partner or a manager.

If he is separated from Santino , he will just need to meet Peter Orlov and Askana (manager) to create a huge tag team and stable.

 

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= blame the gimmick, not the wrestler (why can't you all in this forum, separate a gimmick from a wrestler ? Do you really think that Nick Dinsmore was really retarded ?)
There was nothing wrong with his gimmick though. He was a hard faces, angry russian, physical fighter, there was nothing terrible about that. It was him that didn't succeed with the gimmick, they gave him a lot to work with and he didn't do anything with it. The Eugene gimmick was retarded and probably not his fault he didn't work out, Kozlovs was fine and could have worked with someone else. Kozlovs matches were god awful, he didn't ever have a good one.
 

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His tag team with Santino is the most productive thing he's done since coming to the main roster. Yeah he wasn't main event calibre, but if it means seeing him beating that boring hack Michael McGillicutty to a pulp, he's got my approval.
 

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Yes he one a match
 
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