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Re: WWE Changes Finish To Natalya And Charlotte Vs. The Kabuki Warriors On This Week's RAW

I don't get WWE obsession with making submission specialists tap.
 

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Re: WWE Changes Finish To Natalya And Charlotte Vs. The Kabuki Warriors On This Week's RAW

I didn't even know Natalya was on Raw last night. Didn't recognize her...

She must have changed her complete Catwoman suit from Thursday, into more comfortable wrestling attire I would assume?! :yawn
 

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Re: WWE Changes Finish To Natalya And Charlotte Vs. The Kabuki Warriors On This Week's RAW

Yeah it sucks but the Kabukis will retain their heat because they ooze charisma. I can't get enough of their heel act.
 

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Re: WWE Changes Finish To Natalya And Charlotte Vs. The Kabuki Warriors On This Week's RAW

Clearly Asuka and Sane were getting too over. Can't have that now. :vincefu
Only the white supremacists, and sexist neo nazis who believe in Vince's stupid ideas, would agree to cheer for Nattie and Charlotte because these racists like these blondes. Because that's the fanbase who would cheer busty white women and boo Japanese talent! And if that's the majority of your fans who show up Vince, then you are one sick FUCK!
 

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So they want to keep up this imaginary momentum of Natayla because of the bullshit press from Crown Jewel where the importance wasn't on her win but the fact women competed in SA being the reason it's big news? Lol

They should just say they want Natayla to Main event WrestleMania next that wouldn't be a surprise.
 

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Re: WWE Changes Finish To Natalya And Charlotte Vs. The Kabuki Warriors On This Week's RAW

I don't know if it's worst that they were stupid enough to change the ending, or that I knew Natalya was going to make Asuka tap. I guess her "historic" match made it extremely obvious but you should never be worrying about Natalya beating anyone who isn't a jobber.
 

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Re: WWE Changes Finish To Natalya And Charlotte Vs. The Kabuki Warriors On This Week's RAW

I don't believe this match was planned before Monday and I don't believe the original booking involved Flair and Neidhart going over.
 

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Re: WWE Changes Finish To Natalya And Charlotte Vs. The Kabuki Warriors On This Week's RAW

The reason given was dumb but the booking wasnt. You have a new contender to the tag titles now. Once the titles are on the line you have the Kabuki Warriors go over. Its pretty much a blueprint laid out in wrestling for 40 years.
 

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Re: WWE Changes Finish To Natalya And Charlotte Vs. The Kabuki Warriors On This Week's RAW

There are two things I don't understand this match between Natalya, Charlotte Flair against the Kabuki Warrior

2. In wrestling, you have three ways to submit to your opponent. You can either tap out with your hand clapping the mat 5 times or more in quick succession. You can also verbally tell the referee you surrender. The last way is to tap out with your feet kicking the mat 5 times or more in quick succession just like you would via hand. It is the same thing. Asuka had Natalya in a submission hold and Natalya kicked the mat as though she tapped out, but she didn't lose. Why?? If you surrender, you lose the match.
Care to explain or give the sample, because it will confuse the ref if she do it because it still consider as struggling to escape phase.

Here is the good example for obvious tapout but Little Naitch never call it,go to 1:32


Timing was off, Kairi was supposed to stop her in time since she didn't (for whatever reason), they had to improvise.
It supposed convert to hot tag but Nattie or Charlotte were just went back to their MiTB 2016 match

 

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Re: WWE Changes Finish To Natalya And Charlotte Vs. The Kabuki Warriors On This Week's RAW

Weird thing that they are talking about momentum and Natalya in the same sentence. The match they did in Saudi was simply WWE's own self-serving agenda that I don't think it will advance anything.

Maybe they could be challenging them for a title match some other time probably at the upcoming PPV, at this point I don't know any other contenders for those championships but anyways I want The Kabuki Warriors to win.
 

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Re: WWE Changes Finish To Natalya And Charlotte Vs. The Kabuki Warriors On This Week's RAW

Let's get back to basics. Meltzer said something may have happened but doesn't know what or why.

Remember, there are almost no actual tag teams in the women's division. These rando teams need to be made up to try to keep those titles relevant. I really don't expect anything to come of Natty/charlotte again. It'd be a big waste of Charlotte to demote her to tag team. She'd be better off just staying off TV until RR.

Send the tag titles over to NXT and bat them around there. Let Team Kick win them and travel the brands defending. Kabuki warriors are not going to get over as heels.
 

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There is absolutely no reason why Natalya should be tapping out Asuka...or beating Lacie Evans for that matter..And this clean tap out of Asuka is just stupid irrespective of whether it was the original decision or the revised one...
 

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Re: WWE Changes Finish To Natalya And Charlotte Vs. The Kabuki Warriors On This Week's RAW

It supposed convert to hot tag but Nattie or Charlotte were just went back to their MiTB 2016 match

Jesus Christ you'd think someone with as much experience as Nattie has wouldn't be so dumb. How could you think thats the smart way to cover for Dana missing her spot? Improvise and make the tag.
 

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Re: WWE Changes Finish To Natalya And Charlotte Vs. The Kabuki Warriors On This Week's RAW

Nattie is super overrated, to be honest. She's safe in the ring, but that's literally the only upside to her.

And WWE is giving her a push because she's shilling about how great Saudi Arabia is.

This is her third or fourth failed push this year alone. And on the off chance this is an attempt to get Total Divas ratings up (they are absolutely fucking terrible), its failing miserably. The series pulled in less than 200,000 viewers last Tuesday. Down from nearly 300,000 the week before.
 

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Jesus Christ you'd think someone with as much experience as Nattie has wouldn't be so dumb. How could you think thats the smart way to cover for Dana missing her spot? Improvise and make the tag.
Jesus Christ too, it's no secret anymore that women's match have no place to improvise, look at when Bliss and Cross win their first women's tag team, the ref stopped Asuka who was about attack Nikki while he know both Asuka and Nikki were illegal, so the ref didn't have business with them but he need to do it because the time of the match was about to end, so if there's improvise, the match will extend for another minutes.
 

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I thought it was a great ending. Hell put the titles on Charlotte and Natalya for a little bit before they eventually break up and feud.
 
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