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September 10, 1939, from Wikipedia,

"The submarine HMS Oxley is mistakenly sunk by the submarine HMS Triton near Norway and becomes the Royal Navy's first loss of a submarine in the war."

"Canada declares war on Germany, joining the Allies: Poland, France, the United Kingdom, New Zealand and Australia."
 

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A remembrance thread.
The problem about this: WWII started years before with Italy invading Ethopia, Japan conquering Manchuria and the spanish civil war. Nazi-germany taking over Austria and destroying Czech republic step by step is another important thing before September 39. Especially the deconstruction of the Czechoslovakia helped the nazis a lot. It is a shame they could do that without any harm. Poor Czechs!


September 1, 1939, from Wikipedia,

"Nazi Germany and Slovakia invade Poland, beginning the European phase of World War II."
Like I said: the european phase began years before by the exactly (Hitler, Mussolini) same people! Without the destruction and annexion of big parts of Czechoslovakia, there had not been a Slovakian puppet state.


"Switzerland mobilizes its forces and the Swiss Parliament elects Henri Guisan to head the Swiss Armed Forces (an event that can happen only during war or mobilization)."
What shall that be about? Who gives a shit about Henri Guisan outside Switzerland? Sorry, but that makes me angry.
Nazis washed and cleaned their ugly money and gold in switzerland. Guess where they got it from they years before! Attacking switzerland was maybe planed in theory somewhere, but never a serious planed campaign.


September 10, 1939, from Wikipedia,
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"Canada declares war on Germany, joining the Allies: Poland, France, the United Kingdom, New Zealand and Australia."
The poor polish people were left alone and got like no help. The necessary attack on the westside of nazi-germany didn`t happen. The french people called 39 to 40 the "strange war", because nothing happened at their border and like nobody (french people) died. So it sounds nice to give Poland a big lists of allies, but these allies did nothing(!) for Poland at that time and later. After the war Poland lost territories on their east side to get some territory from east-germany on the west side. Also they had to become a communist satellite state. :(
All this "allies" thing were empty words for Poland. No western country helped them, their territory was "redesigned" and then they were thrown at the communists after the war. Poor Poland! :(

I am curious, if you will mention what happened on september 17, when three sovjet armies invaded(!) poland from the east. :(

Not even starting about the war crimes which already happened the first "10" days on polish territory and the years before somewhere else, especially to civil people.
But hey, Canada was part of the Allies in September 39, that is important ...

I guess you come from a good place, but this kind of remembrance (Swiss semi-mobilizing army, New Zealand joining allies) just makes me throwing up. Czech resistance fighters did more to stop the nazis, then half of the countries in the "allies" list in early 45.
 

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The problem about this: WWII started years before with Italy invading Ethopia, Japan conquering Manchuria and the spanish civil war. Nazi-germany taking over Austria and destroying Czech republic step by step is another important thing before September 39. Especially the deconstruction of the Czechoslovakia helped the nazis a lot. It is a shame they could do that without any harm. Poor Czechs!




Like I said: the european phase began years before by the exactly (Hitler, Mussolini) same people! Without the destruction and annexion of big parts of Czechoslovakia, there had not been a Slovakian puppet state.




What shall that be about? Who gives a shit about Henri Guisan outside Switzerland? Sorry, but that makes me angry.
Nazis washed and cleaned their ugly money and gold in switzerland. Guess where they got it from they years before! Attacking switzerland was maybe planed in theory somewhere, but never a serious planed campaign.




The poor polish people were left alone and got like no help. The necessary attack on the westside of nazi-germany didn`t happen. The french people called 39 to 40 the "strange war", because nothing happened at their border and like nobody (french people) died. So it sounds nice to give Poland a big lists of allies, but these allies did nothing(!) for Poland at that time and later. After the war Poland lost territories on their east side to get some territory from east-germany on the west side. Also they had to become a communist satellite state. :(
All this "allies" thing were empty words for Poland. No western country helped them, their territory was "redesigned" and then they were thrown at the communists after the war. Poor Poland! :(

I am curious, if you will mention what happened on september 17, when three sovjet armies invaded(!) poland from the east. :(

Not even starting about the war crimes which already happened the first "10" days on polish territory and the years before somewhere else, especially to civil people.
But hey, Canada was part of the Allies in September 39, that is important ...

I guess you come from a good place, but this kind of remembrance (Swiss semi-mobilizing army, New Zealand joining allies) just makes me throwing up. Czech resistance fighters did more to stop the nazis, then half of the countries in the "allies" list in early 45.
What the hell is wrong with you? I'm just listing what it says on Wikipedia. Don't blame me for what it says on Wikipedia. I didn't write the bloody pages.
 

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What the hell is wrong with you? I'm just listing what it says on Wikipedia. Don't blame me for what it says on Wikipedia. I didn't write the bloody pages.
I made clear, that your wiki posts focus on the wrong/unimportant things. And who says it is a good thing to quote wikipedia? At our university we always say, that no serious person quotes wikipedia.

You call that a remembrance thread in your startposting and then the important thing is switzerland semi-mobilising their army (they didn`t really fought in this war btw. and the importance of Guisan is a myth). Are you serious? Didn`t you read/check what you wrote?

You know what happened Sept 1? SS troops carried so called "containers", which were murdered german civilians from a concentration camp, to a radio station. They "played" the corpses of german victims in a fake attack, to have a faked reason for the war on poland. And while New Zealand joined the allies - because of Brits - polish towns were burning and masses of polish civilians died for reprisals.

That are things you should tell, instead crap like "Switzerland mobilizes its forces and the Swiss Parliament elects Henri Guisan to head the Swiss Armed Forces (an event that can happen only during war or mobilization)."

If you don`t understand that, then stop this thread, please!
 

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I made clear, that your wiki posts focus on the wrong/unimportant things. And who says it is a good thing to quote wikipedia? At our university we always say, that no serious person quotes wikipedia.

You call that a remembrance thread in your startposting and then the important thing is switzerland semi-mobilising their army (they didn`t really fought in this war btw. and the importance of Guisan is a myth). Are you serious? Didn`t you read/check what you wrote?

You know what happened Sept 1? SS troops carried so called "containers", which were murdered german civilians from a concentration camp, to a radio station. They "played" the corpses of german victims in a fake attack, to have a faked reason for the war on poland. And while New Zealand joined the allies - because of Brits - polish towns were burning and masses of polish civilians died for reprisals.

That are things you should tell, instead crap like "Switzerland mobilizes its forces and the Swiss Parliament elects Henri Guisan to head the Swiss Armed Forces (an event that can happen only during war or mobilization)."

If you don`t understand that, then stop this thread, please!
I'm gonna keep doing what I've been doing. Ya don't like it, tough.
 

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Ya don't like it, tough.
In such a context you write stuff like that? You did not even try to defend or rethink your unqualified proceeding. fpalm
 

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September 14, 1939, from Wikipedia,

"The Estonian military boards the Polish submarine ORP Orzeł in Tallinn, sparking a diplomatic incident that the Soviet Union will later use to justify the annexation of Estonia."
 

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September 17, 1939, from Wikipedia,

"The Soviet invasion of Poland begins."

"German submarine U-29 sinks the British aircraft carrier HMS Courageous."
 

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September 18, 1939, from Wikipedia,

"The Polish government of Ignacy Mościcki flees to Romania."

"The radio show Germany Calling begins transmitting Nazi propaganda."
 

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If you guys want to follow World War II in close to real time, you should watch Indy Neidell's channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP1AejCL4DA7jYkZAELRhHQ

I also recommend his (well, formerly his) Great War channel:

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheGreatWar

The First World War is often overshadowed by the Second, but the two are inextricably linked and can't be understood in isolation.

My grandfather fought the Japanese in the Pacific and his aircraft carrier was sunk at the Battle of Leyte Gulf by a kamikaze. I'm told he was stuck at sea for a few days in shark infested waters until he was rescued. My other grandfather had the fortune of being stationed in the Aleutians which was a relatively quiet front.
 

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In such a context you write stuff like that? You did not even try to defend or rethink your unqualified proceeding. fpalm
Go away. He's posting stuff daily in a quality thread. Just...shut it.

Anyway, my grandfather (an Italian immigrant) served for the US in the Aleutian islands in Alaska. Thankfully, he never saw any action. My other grandfather jumped ship from the Argentinian navy in Puerto Rico, which is part of why I'm here. :)
 

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If you guys want to follow World War II in close to real time, you should watch Indy Neidell's channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP1AejCL4DA7jYkZAELRhHQ

I also recommend his (well, formerly his) Great War channel:

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheGreatWar

The First World War is often overshadowed by the Second, but the two are inextricably linked and can't be understood in isolation.

My grandfather fought the Japanese in the Pacific and his aircraft carrier was sunk at the Battle of Leyte Gulf by a kamikaze. I'm told he was stuck at sea for a few days in shark infested waters until he was rescued. My other grandfather had the fortune of being stationed in the Aleutians which was a relatively quiet front.
I remember watching a documentary about ships going down and the survivors clinging to debris whilst being picked off by sharks overnight.

Those nights must have been terrifying. I got a lot of respect for those brave men that serve in war times.
 

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September 19, 1939, from Wikipedia,

"The Battle of Kępa Oksywska concludes, with Polish losses reaching roughly 14% of all the forces engaged."
 
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