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Dave: I was right. I told you plans could change.

This is Dave trying to set up Tony as the hero who stood up to the big, bad network. And a lot of people will take his report — which was wrong — as gospel and run with that narrative.

Well something must have changed between last week and today if they were only allowed a graphic and some armbands and now they're apparently allowed to honor him, and Mark is allowed to wrestle.

 

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The idea that WBD had a ”policy” — Dave’s word not mine — that Mark Briscoe wasn’t allowed on the network as of last night or this morning (whenever he definitively said, on video, flat-out NO that Mark Briscoe wouldn’t be allowed) is laughable. Policies are in writing so someone produce the handbook with all network policies that mentions Mark Briscoe.

Heck, show me a report that Tony wanted Mark to wrestle on the show last week (seems pretty far-fetched as I’m sure he was in shock and being there for his family) and was told no.

SRS reported that Mark would have been allowed to wrestle all along but wouldn’t have wanted to without Jay. That sounds a lot more believable.

Dave got it wrong. It happens all the time. It’s beyond my comprehension that people would give this guy $11.99 a month to get incorrect reports and then ‘plans changed’ explanations every time he’s wrong.

People use policy to refer to a simple stance on things all the time, they don't have to codify it and put it in a company wide handbook.

Tony certainly wasn't asking Mark to wrestle last week, don't be silly, but he obviously wanted to do more as evidenced by the tribute show they were forced to sandwich in between Dynamite and Rampage.

So what changed that they're allowed to honor Jay with what I'm assuming will be a 10 bell salute, a video package and someone or a few people giving an address, because something obviously changed, one of those things possibly being an already less strict stance on Mark being waived -- because SRS also just tweeted this

"I'm told the new bosses at WBD gave AEW the permission to book Mark Briscoe on Dynamite." almost like they didn't have permission previously

 

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Or almost like they never asked previously.

There was not one single report ever before Dave today/last night (not sure when the WOR video was shot) saying Mark Briscoe could not wrestling on AEW TV. He never mentioned it, never reported it … and literally almost the minute he does it’s announced that Mark Briscoe is indeed wrestling on AEW TV.

There was no policy. They didn’t want Jay on their TV network, which sucks but that’s not the same as saying they wouldn’t allow his brother.

The tribute thing is a completely different report. I’m talking about Mark wrestling on WBD, not in what way they could honor Jay. Two different subjects.

Meltzer was 100% wrong. Why not just accept it. You can’t deny his own words on video.

Why not just accept that plans change like they clearly did here lol.

 

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Dave is never wrong!!! It’s just that plans keep changing!!!

Why not accept that Mark Briscoe was never an issue?

Was enough of one that according to SRS they had to grant permission.

 

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According to SRS, he could have wrestled on WBD before but not Jay, and he probably didn’t want to do it if they were keeping Jay off.

SRS never reported that Mark Briscoe was banned.

Only Dave did that … right before AEW announced he was wrestling on TV this week lol.

Your guy was wrong. It’s your dime (or rather $11.99) but just let Dave take his L.

Huh.. just heard an interview with TK saying "I fought hard to make it happen" referring to the Lethal/Mark Briscoe match. Why would he need to fight hard to make it happen if Mark could have wrestled before?

If Dave is guilty of anything it's having impeccably shit timing.

 

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SMFH.

”Fought hard“ could be him just asking for the first time if they’re OK with Mark on TV and bigging himself up.

More likely, Dave tried to get that out there because he knew this was coming and wants to paint his buddy Tony as the big man who stood up to the mean network.

There was a problem on WBD’s part with Jay. There have been zero reports in all this time of there being any problem with Mark.

I know the four most painful and difficult words in the English language for a certain set of $11.99-ers is ‘Dave got it wrong,’ but .. Dave got it wrong.

Or.. You're just reading your own tea leaves again

 

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What agenda?

He’s not a journalist. He’s an historian and a very good one, and his writing on history certainly should be allowed and has its place.

But it’s 100% clear that unlike a real journalist, he doesn’t vet his sources — to the point that he takes an email from a throwaway account as gospel and reports what some hoaxer says without bothering to try to verify. Nor does he do like a real journalist and seek a second source to back up an account — if Jericho or whoever tells him something, he just goes with it oblivious to being used to further THEIR agenda rather than take that info and try to confirm it with someone else. That’s not journalism. That’s gossip.f

So when it comes to how journalism works, I do know more than Meltzer. Imagine CNN or ABC or FOX or whoever getting an email from [email protected] and reporting what that email says as fact. Anyone doing that would be fired.

Nothing would be lost in banning him as a source.

(And don’t get me started on his partner, who actually criticized the commentary on a match with no commentary and made fun of the finish of a match that wasn’t actually the finish (saying Otis climbed the ladder when he didn’t … and people still stand up for them lol).

Nobody is saying you can’t keep paying your $11.99. Just don’t let their stuff be posted here as a news source.

Nobody is saying these guys are Pulitzer prize winners for investigative journalism.

They're breaking scoops about wrestling.. not foreign affairs.

They're just dirt sheets, some more credible than others, but for some reason you get wrapped up trying to dunk on them because as you say yourself "I do know more."

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Plans do change.

SRS said "I'm told the new bosses at WBD gave AEW the permission to book Mark Briscoe on Dynamite. Mark Briscoe will get to honor Jay Briscoe this week."

Tony Khan himself said about the Mark/Lethal match "I fought hard to make it happen."

And then for some reason you spin this weird narrative that there was no issue with Mark at all and Tony is just bigging himself up -- that's reading your own tea leaves.

So what changed? Why did they need to get permission to have him on the show? Why did Tony have to fight hard to make this match and the tribute happen?

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It seems to be a weird media literacy issue that affects a lot of people these days on the internet.

Plans do change, and we're constantly learning new details about everything from people reporting what they've heard or people directly involved with the topic -- just because somebody said something was one way last week doesn't mean it isn't different this week.. or even 5 hours from now -- and this can go for almost anything.

Have you never heard a report about some international treaty, a civil court case, or corporate negotiation described as "looking good, both parties seem to be ready to reach a mutual agreement," at the outset of talks, only for shit to dissolve into a fist fight, argument or war after 8 hours?


I don't give a shit about Dave Meltzer, I just hate unmoving, anti-intellectual bullshit.


Oh and don't start about whataboutism about Xero when you just whatabouted Alvarez two comments above you.. fuckin please.

 

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SRS reported that Mark could have worked Dynamite earlier but wouldn’t have wanted to

Was it a report, or was it him speculating?

Find me your smoking gun and I'll gladly tip my hat.

 

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I mean it's one of those things where if you defend him at any aspect ever for anything... you get this type of response no matter what it may be, and vice versa. I don't talk about him all that much on here because of that.

I actually do pay this, but mostly for all the radio shows. Alvarez does a bunch like the Bryan & Vinny Show, or the shows he does with Lance Storm and Filthy Tom Lawlor. So I usually listen to like 7 or so podcasts weekly at work. Seems like a decent deal to me.

Yeah, I've got a lot of time to kill so having podcasts as background noise is a must when I'm playing video games or w.e. Vinny, Craig and Granny are great, Lance and Tom are awesome, and I find Les Thatcher to be a kind of less strident Cornette, old-school but not playing a gimmick and burying everything. Garretts podcast with John LaRocca can be interesting, but John is kind of how I imagine Chip being in real life if he was being truthful about running a promotion, bit of a grumpy sourpuss. Unfortunately miss listening to Jim Valley and Fumi Saito, I just can't listen to Jim after his voice went following his illness.

For like 30+ hours of content a month 11.99 is fair enough for me.

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Things like Dave fucking up on the the Dragon Gate thing are deserved -- but in cases like this where he'd probably talked to Tony himself last week and WBD's stance was a firm no, is just a case of shitty timing, and people trying to dunk on him as if plans don't actually change all the time is just plain stupid and is what irks me more than anything.

It reminds me of all the "fake news" folks that popped up the last few years under Trump, and oddly enough if you kick around in the anything or rants sections here, you start to see a bit of overlap.

At the end of the day, it's wrestling, and I'm not looking for the same journalistic integrity in reporting as I would from serious news organizations.

Also half of what he says isn't even him reporting, it's opinion or partially informed conjecture that for some people is heard and interpreted as FACT for some odd reason which usually ties back to media literacy issues in the modern world.

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