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Through numerous mathematical equations designed by me, I have determined that the PG Era will in fact be the end of wrestling as us Wrestling Fans know it today. Most of us who watch the product today do so out of a sense of loyalty. We grew up in times much different than now when Wrestling actually meant something.....be it the Attitude Era, Golden Era, Territorial. We all come from a product that had character, heart, respect. Today's target audience has not, and most likely will never have that privilege. With WWE's massive push to gear their product to a 12 and under audience, its rational to assume that the majority of these young fans will most likely discontinue their "love" of wrestling by the time they turn 14 and realize they can watch streaming porn on the internet. This will create a vicious cycle in which there will be no TRUE wrestling fans left to carry on the torch once our generation dies off. I predict in as little as 15 years, the vast majority of "wrestling" fans will not know what "Independent Wrestling" is, especially with WWE's creation of the Performance Center which will rob all upcoming wrestlers of any discernible character achieved by putting in their dues. We have entered a sad day in wrestling.........bless all of you (with the exception of PG marks, go fuck yourself.)
 

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Not sure if serious or not. Mathematical equations designed by you? And on that note, why would you use something so empirical like mathematics, should such mathematics be legitimate to begin with, to discuss the "ending of wrestling" in a subjective retrospect? That's like me saying that blue is the best color in the world because a calculus theorem says so.
 

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Hmm...I do believe that you believe what you believe to be believable. However, what you believe is unbelievable and therefore I do not believe that you did any research whatsoever, therefore believe me when I say that you are unbelievable.
 

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I predict in as little as 15 years, the vast majority of "wrestling" fans will not know what "Independent Wrestling" is, especially with WWE's creation of the Performance Center
I actually agree with this 100%.

Vince is god like with the way he crushes all and any competition. It's amazing to me but the bastard has probably found a way to get rid of things like ROH and PWG. I think you're right. WWE will be more than willing to now sign a bunch of 18 year olds who normally they would not have. Who normally would have worked on the indy scene for 4 or 5 years before even getting a WWE tryout.

Now with the performance center, they will sign them. They will. Even if they suck. They will sign them and put them into the system and teach them the WWE way. And you're probably right. It's going to put the indys out of business.
 

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Through numerous mathematical equations designed by me, I have determined that the PG Era will in fact be the end of wrestling as us Wrestling Fans know it today. Most of us who watch the product today do so out of a sense of loyalty. We grew up in times much different than now when Wrestling actually meant something.....be it the Attitude Era, Golden Era, Territorial. We all come from a product that had character, heart, respect. Today's target audience has not, and most likely will never have that privilege. With WWE's massive push to gear their product to a 12 and under audience, its rational to assume that the majority of these young fans will most likely discontinue their "love" of wrestling by the time they turn 14 and realize they can watch streaming porn on the internet. This will create a vicious cycle in which there will be no TRUE wrestling fans left to carry on the torch once our generation dies off. I predict in as little as 15 years, the vast majority of "wrestling" fans will not know what "Independent Wrestling" is, especially with WWE's creation of the Performance Center which will rob all upcoming wrestlers of any discernible character achieved by putting in their dues. We have entered a sad day in wrestling.........bless all of you (with the exception of PG marks, go fuck yourself.)
Where as the wrestling world really has evolved and the talent from territories seems to be less and less over time, I don't think that wrestling will come to an end, simply because we are in a PG era of wrestling.

The Hogan era was when WWE went mainstream, worldwide and became such a huge phenomenon all over the world, yet this was considerably a PG era .... sure, it wasn't as PG as it is now (they would blade and juice back then, moves have been incredibly limited now in today's WWE due to safety of the talent), but apart from the Attitude Era times, wrestling has always had the PG tag to some degree since it's been mainstream, specially from the early 90's onwards ... so I don't think it's because of the PG era that's doing it ... what will do it (if anything) ... is the quality of the programming.

It'll be very interesting to see where WWE goes when Vince has completely stepped down, because although Vince does seem out of touch quite often in recent years, Vince was also the master mind and the genius that made WWE what it is today, so when he steps away from the product ... whoever takes over (Probably Triple H) ... it will be such a testing time for the company, depending on which way they take it ... personally, I feel that HHH will do a great job, he seems very in touch with things and he does seem to listen to the fans, more so than Vince does (Vince still has the final word right now).

However, wrestling will always continue through the generations and you will always get the loyal fans that support the product, people misunderstand the demographics of wrestling so much, thinking that the majority of the audience is kids, when that's actually a very small percent ... it's just a very important percent that are a big target audience for marketing products towards ... though a percentage of those will stay loyal, mainly those who grow up with parents loyal to the product also, so it continues that way quite often.

The only way WWE will seriously go down the pan is if the quality of product doesn't keep up with things, other than that, it'll be around long after we're all gone from this world we live in.
 

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I actually agree with this 100%.

Vince is god like with the way he crushes all and any competition. It's amazing to me but the bastard has probably found a way to get rid of things like ROH and PWG. I think you're right. WWE will be more than willing to now sign a bunch of 18 year olds who normally they would not have. Who normally would have worked on the indy scene for 4 or 5 years before even getting a WWE tryout.

Now with the performance center, they will sign them. They will. Even if they suck. They will sign them and put them into the system and teach them the WWE way. And you're probably right. It's going to put the indys out of business.
Or maybe the indies were in a decline on their own anyways

I mean lets face it, ROH has been going straight to shit for a while now, so dont blame this one on vince
 

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PG ERA:

RAW most watched: : 3.5 million veiwers

Smackdown most watched: 2.9 million veiwers

ATTITUDE ERA:

RAW most watched: 8.5 million veiwers

Smackdown most watched: 5.0 million veiwers




NOTHING MORE TO SAY. The WWE is by digging his own grave.
 

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PG ERA:

RAW most watched: : 3.5 million veiwers

Smackdown most watched: 2.9 million veiwers

ATTITUDE ERA:

RAW most watched: 8.5 million veiwers

Smackdown most watched: 5.0 million veiwers




NOTHING MORE TO SAY. The WWE is by digging his own grave.

Where as they might have been booming in the AE, the ratings they are bringing in now aren't failure ratings.

Also, you gotta remember, WWE goes worldwide, and is in more countries now also, so it's hard to compare these really.
 

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Where as they might have been booming in the AE, the ratings they are bringing in now aren't failure ratings.

Also, you gotta remember, WWE goes worldwide, and is in more countries now also, so it's hard to compare these really.
I know, but the ratings are a fact. Now, the WWE has more platforms to show their shows, the American and European Shop and house shows in all the world, therefore they still making so money.

But watching the ratings of the AE, I think they can do the same like they are doing now with the PG, even making more money.
 

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I know, but the ratings are a fact. Now, the WWE has more platforms to show their shows, the American and European Shop and house shows in all the world, therefore they still making so money.
That could be the problem, too much of it that people don't feel the need to tune in as much, for example, there was a very popular music show in the UK called Top Of The Pops, from the 60's up until mid 00's (I think) ... which was aired on a Thursday or Friday night I think .... this would get MASSIVE ratings consistently every week because it was the only time the audience could get their music fix ... they couldn't wait to tune in each week ... then came loads of channels with 24/7 music accessible ... the ratings on TOTP's dropped massively, to the point where it eventually was taken off air.

Maybe, this is why ratings drop also ... not totally, I know, this is down to the quality of the product a lot of the times, but it could play quite a big part within this.

Just a thought anyway :)
 

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That could be the problem, too much of it that people don't feel the need to tune in as much, for example, there was a very popular music show in the UK called Top Of The Pops, from the 60's up until mid 00's (I think) ... which was aired on a Thursday or Friday night I think .... this would get MASSIVE ratings consistently every week because it was the only time the audience could get their music fix ... they couldn't wait to tune in each week ... then came loads of channels with 24/7 music accessible ... the ratings on TOTP's dropped massively, to the point where it eventually was taken off air.

Maybe, this is why ratings drop also ... not totally, I know, this is down to the quality of the product a lot of the times, but it could play quite a big part within this.

Just a thought anyway :)
spot on

anyone who thinks this is the same world as 1999 is delusional. tv is a completely different landscape.

besides, id trust forbes more than some 'analyst' on WF. they claim WWE ratings are great, and theyre so good infact that hen the current deal expires in a few years, WWE will make a KILLING in terms of revenue, as raw is one of the most desired properties on television: live sports
 
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