[Greek_Kane_Fan]

Why isn't there competition for WWE?

UFC doesn't count as competition because UFC and WWE are two different things.
I am talking about a Wrestling company that should have emerged as competition by now.
All you need is a rich guy to build a company up from scratch. How hard could it be?
The wrestling industry is huge but it seems there is just one huge goal for wrestlers around the world and that is being signed by WWE.

I don't see TNA as competition to WWE, in fact they have gone downhill since hogan's arrival in the company.

ROH isn't competition and would never be competition to WWE. ROH is just a big fish is a small pond.

What is needed for there to be competition for WWE?

(Y)

 

[martix_agent]

because they bought out WCW

 

[kokepepsi]

Rich guy with ability to put a show on television

Rupert Murdoch is the only candidate

 

[Spike]

Any time there's been any competition it's either destroyed itself by turning shit or been bought out by WWE. WWE's partly to blame for its own lack of compeition. TNA will never be a competitor, and if it ever was chances are Vince would just buy it.

 

[paulborklaserheyma]

because wrestling is a dying industry

 

[dxbender]

It's not that easy to just walk into a market and become competition for a company.

When you think of major computer companies, aren't Apple and Microsoft the 2 ones? Or like fast food, Burger King,McDonalds and places are the main ones.

You cant just have someone start up a company and become competition within a year or two. It'll take lots of time.

Even for WCW, with the exception of the 3 or so years in the mid-late 90s, they weren't even close to competition to WWE for the other parts of WCWs existence.

To compete against a company like WWE, you'll need to make your company known, have lots of great wrestlers/entertainers, have great backstage staff, be able to book shows in arenas all over the place and so many other things. And of course, all that would require money.

I think WWE makes a profit of like 150M a year or something?(They made about 40M in first quarter of 2012,not including WM obviously). Revenue is about 600M, so that means they spend like 400+M? So if a company wants anywhere close to amount of profit WWE has, they'll need to spend ALOT to compete.

 

[Mike Zybyszko]

TNA is putting out a better product right now than WWE, and doing it with a smaller budget.

WWE on the other hand is dying right now. A hundred million in lost company value proves that. Its only a matter of time now till WWE is no longer the top dog. They were so huge at one point that the fall will take a while, but falling they most assuredly are. No smart investor would touch WWE stock right now.

 

[dxbender]

WWE on the other hand is dying right now. A hundred million in lost company value proves that. Its only a matter of time now till WWE is no longer the top dog. They were so huge at one point that the fall will take a while, but falling they most assuredly are. No smart investor would touch WWE stock right now.

So WWE is dying because they have a first quarter profit in 2012 of about 40M, and that's a bad thing for a single quarter in a year.....

Really though, if you look at WWEs stock in the past few years, if anything, a smart investor would be buying WWE stocks every single year and selling them at the same time every year cause WWEs stocks consistently go to a low point at same time every year, and real high point at same time every year.

 

[Theproof]

TNA is putting out a better product right now than WWE, and doing it with a smaller budget.

WWE on the other hand is dying right now. A hundred million in lost company value proves that. Its only a matter of time now till WWE is no longer the top dog. They were so huge at one point that the fall will take a while, but falling they most assuredly are. No smart investor would touch WWE stock right now.

Agreed. The reason why it will never be competition is because so many fans tend to only watch the WWE and nothing else these days.

 

[dxbender]

Agreed. The reason why it will never be competition is because so many fans tend to only watch the WWE and nothing else these days.

That's your opinion(about TNA being better than WWE right now). Just like how some people at times say that college basketball is more fun to watch than NBA. That's their opinion. One is obviously bigger than the other, and it's peoples opinion if they think the smaller league is better quality.

Though the same can be said about most things. Why do people bother to watch random reality shows like Pawn Stars, Jersey Shore, any Kardashian related show, yet don't watch the shows that actually should be on TV(not comparing WWE to any of the 3 shows I listed)

 

[Jobberwacky]

loltna



Seriously, we should all support TNA as they are the only chance to be some form of competition that WWE badly needs. Nobody is gambling on trying to break into and takeover the wrestling business and they aren't about to anytime soon, if ever. Not in this market. We'll suffer until the inevitable demise. WWE are never going to re-capture the levels of previous success. TNA or any other company are never going to overtake WWE. Nobody else is risking investing fuckloads of money in a near monopolized industry, which is slowly dying. That is unless we have another boom period which just seems so unlikely for so many reasons.

 

[dxbender]

^So you wanna help a company that can barely run itself, so it can beat a company that can run itself and basically destroy the wrestling business?

Imagine if WCW ran WWE out of business in 1998 or something and everything that happened in WCW in 1999-2000 actually happened still. Wrestling business would basically be dead already.


I'd rather have an average-above average company staying on a similar pace(or slowly increasing) over a long period of time, instead of a below average company running for dozens of years, then have 3-4 GREAT years, only to become below average yet again for the rest of its existence.

That's exactly what WCW was. Nothing real special for most of its existence, then had that great run in the mid-late 90s and that was it. WWE on average was big already, it's just attitude era stuff made it greater than average.

 

[Jupiter Jack Daniels]

Reason there isn't competition is because companies instantly think they can be competitive with WWE. It will be hard to compete with a company like that, due to the dominance they have on the mainstream.

TNA is the only threat right now and isn't much of a threat. Plenty guys have the mind for the business but not the finances to form a promotion and successfully compete with WWE. The people that do have the finances know jack shit about wrestling and put people in charge who are responsible somewhat for the deaths of other wrestling promotions.

IMO, if they had a strong financial backing, I think PWG could compete with WWE, at least better than TNA can and Ring Of Honor doesn't have a chance in hell.

 

[Theproof]

^So you wanna help a company that can barely run itself, so it can beat a company that can run itself and basically destroy the wrestling business?

Imagine if WCW ran WWE out of business in 1998 or something and everything that happened in WCW in 1999-2000 actually happened still. Wrestling business would basically be dead already.

Care to explain how TNA can "barley run itself"? Just because it doesn't get WWE ratings doesn't mean that it's ratings aren't good. And he didn't say he wanted to beat the WWE he only wants to create competition so that we as fans can benefit.

 

[wkdsoul]

It'd essentially take a new company, to do a "Man City" and have the financial backing of a blank cheque book from the off.. unless wrestling becomes massive in Qatar or somewhere like that for some reason, it'll never happen.

WWE is essentialy the wrestling equivilent of Microsoft at this point, and can buy any company that starts making noise in the industry too quickly or poach there rosters too easily..

 

[The Pastor]

As Vince has always said, he is "not in the Wrestling business". The other promotions like TNA and ROH are in the wrestling business. They sale wrestling - to wrestling fans. WWE sales entertainment. It's basically comparing Apples and Oranges.

 

[dxbender]

Care to explain how TNA can "barley run itself"? Just because it doesn't get WWE ratings doesn't mean that it's ratings aren't good. And he didn't say he wanted to beat the WWE he only wants to create competition so that we as fans can benefit.

How many vets have actually gone to TNA cause TNA was overall better? Sting went cause he's never working for Vince. Angle went cause TNAs schedule is way better. I'm guessing that's why Nash/Booker went too. Christian did as well.


The way they're using guys like Rhoode,AJ is great though, but it could be a similar case to sports. Players might seem great when they're in the minors(or just on a pro team that's not really that great/known), but you'll never really know if they are really good until they're on the big team.(Or in hockeys case, anyone can get lots of points if they're playing 20 minutes a game, but if their skill level might only be good for 15 mins a game,but since they're in a team that doesn't have the big star players, they'll play way more)

Since it's NBA finals season(I think I already said it). Look at Bosh. On the Raptors(a team that's obviously not that great,and nobody outside of Canada knows/cares about them), he was the franchise guy. On a bigger market team like Miami(with better players), he's basically a middle man on it. #3 guy behind 2 big stars. So he went from being a franchise player on 1 team, to a middle guy in the starting lineup

 

[Jobberwacky]

Care to explain how TNA can "barley run itself"? Just because it doesn't get WWE ratings doesn't mean that it's ratings aren't good. And he didn't say he wanted to beat the WWE he only wants to create competition so that we as fans can benefit.

Yeah, i don't know where you got that from? I want TNA to be a more serious threat to WWE so they have to step up their game, which in turn makes TNA step up and so on, and then we might have another chance to grow the business. So long as WWE think they can get away with half-assing things they will do, they are coasting right now. It's not like TNA are realistically close to that position either, but at least they are showing some signs of life lately.

 

[dxbender]

^But from the 80s until the mid 90s, did WWE ever really even have competition? And they did fairly fine didn't they? They didn't become huge with Hogan days because there was another company forcing WWE to have to step things up.


If anything, maybe they need a company like ECW. One that'll try huge and unique things that we wouldn't see in an average wrestling show. Doesn't mean that company will have to become a threat(since ECW obviously was never a threat to WCW or WWE), but could be a cheap way of WWE finding out how people react to seeing certain things.

 

[cyrus_cesar]

I'll say this about TNA...they offer a much better product, WWE just puts it together better, and they are too bad with the product themselves (until lately).