[MATTYCHICKENPATTY]

According to Hulk Hogan the belts are fake and its all about drawing money?

 

[Jon Staley]

Reaction is a show in which they break kayfabe to a degree. It has little bearing on the main shows. Hogan said that in-character (the heel owner who is obsessed with money) but also alluded to what the business is about. No big deal, unless you're going out of your way in looking to hate on TNA...

 

[MATTYCHICKENPATTY]

Reaction is a show in which they break kayfabe to a degree. It has little bearing on the main shows. Hogan said that in-character (the heel owner who is obsessed with money) but also alluded to what the business is about. No big deal, unless you're going out of your way in looking to hate on TNA...

Hogan buried the whole business in the process, he basically said its a fucking work and all that matters is drawing money. He took any credibility out of every wrestling championship in about 30 seconds.

 

[J-Co]

Ya know, in this day and age, a lot of the people in the professional wrestling business probably do look at it as a job and nothing more. It does not seem to be a super protected lifestyle anymore like it was back in the day. Sure, you might have people like Cody Rhodes being third generation superstars, and The American Dream was a Hall of Famer and one of the best ever, for sure. But Cody has a tattoo of a Triforce from a video game on him and seems like the kind of person that when his match is over is in his hotel playing video games, not practicing promos in the bathroom mirror with a hairbrush as a microphone.

So, in that regard, if it is nothing more than a job, the amount of money that you make is all that matters. Very rarely will you have wrestlers like Triple H still come around where they care about the business to the point that it consumes their entire life.

Now, the debate on whether or not that is a positive or a negative is an entirely different conversation altogether.

 

[Jon Staley]

Hogan buried the whole business in the process, he basically said its a fucking work and all that matters is drawing money. He took any credibility out of every wrestling championship in about 30 seconds.

Please. Any time a wrestler breaks kayfabe you could say he 'buried the business'. When Vince spoke about how 'Bret screwed Bret' I guess he was 'burying the business' too, huh? Seriously now. That's the beauty of ReAction. If offers a whole new perspective on wrestling. Everyone is aware that wrestling is a business (and if they don't, they're too retarded to realise what Hogan is implying) and as such they're not going to suddenly stop watching because of it.

 

[acracker]

with wrestling being as exposed as it is something like that just demoralises the illusion on everybodys part

 

[Aya Reiko]

The only reason Hogan pulled that stunt is because the belt is not around his waist nor does it look like it could be going there anytime soon.
Hogan is a selfish self-absorbed bastard who only cares about himself.

 

[Post-Modern Devil]

We all know the events in pro wrestling were scripted in a fictional universe. Given this, WHY is it so important to pro wrestling fans and TNA that we expose wrestling for being fake; this is the only fictional medium who's fanbase are obsessed with the shows acknowledging that its fake. You don't see videogames, movies, TV shows, comic books, or manga going around saying everything that's happening is fake and destroying the immersion of the story.

The mainstream is a bunch of shallow idiotic pretentious assholes, they won't ever accept pro wrestling in any short amount of time regardless of how geniune the business becomes. Lets just have companies focus on entertaining the people already viewing their products with compelling storylines, characters, and great ring action and gradually gaining more viewers as time progresses. We KNOW its fake, but we like the spectacle so don't destroy it for us.

 

[nWoForLife]

We all know the events in pro wrestling were scripted in a fictional universe. Given this, WHY is it so important to pro wrestling fans and TNA that we expose wrestling for being fake; this is the only fictional medium who's fanbase are obsessed with the shows acknowledging that its fake. You don't see videogames, movies, TV shows, comic books, or manga going around saying everything that's happening is fake and destroying the immersion of the story.

The mainstream is a bunch of shallow idiotic pretentious assholes, they won't ever accept pro wrestling in any short amount of time regardless of how geniune the business becomes. Lets just have companies focus on entertaining the people already viewing their products with compelling storylines, characters, and great ring action and gradually gaining more viewers as time progresses. We KNOW its fake, but we like the spectacle so don't destroy it for us.

Actually the character Deadpool is beloved and popular for this very reason. Also play MGS one of the all time greatest and best selling video games who constantly break the 4th wall and allude to it being a game.

 

[Stinger Fan]

Please. Any time a wrestler breaks kayfabe you could say he 'buried the business'. When Vince spoke about how 'Bret screwed Bret' I guess he was 'burying the business' too, huh? Seriously now. That's the beauty of ReAction. If offers a whole new perspective on wrestling. Everyone is aware that wrestling is a business (and if they don't, they're too retarded to realise what Hogan is implying) and as such they're not going to suddenly stop watching because of it.

Seriously you use Bret and Vince as an example to counter act what Hogan did? From my memory, the Vince promo did not mention the business being"fake" or the titles being"fake" and what not.Fact is Hogan broke the biggest rule in wrestling by saying its fake on a WRESTLING SHOW. If it wasn't on a wrestling show and saying its fake then thats a completely different thing. People wouldn't be talking about it as much, but since it was on an actual show it makes a good reason to be annoyed.

 

[Roler42]

for any TNA defender out there:

just because its fake, IT DOESNT MEAN YOU CAN GO OUT AND ADMIT IT ON-AIR!

 

[Post-Modern Devil]

Actually the character Deadpool is beloved and popular for this very reason. Also play MGS one of the all time greatest and best selling video games who constantly break the 4th wall and allude to it being a game.

You'd have a point if Impact was satirical and self-depreciating, but we're supposed to be taking it seriously. You can't exactly go and say a show is fake ON THE SHOW (yes, a secondary show technically, but one that ties into the main show) and then expect me to try to take anything that happens on the show seriously.

And the fact that this is wrestling isn't any excuse of the writers ruining the the ability of the fans to immerse themselves in whats supposed to be a serious show. TNA isn't exactly targeting the PG WWE or Chikara demographic afterall. You like TNA, fine I don't care watch it, but don't complain about a good chunk of the viewers complaining about something clearly stupid.

This isn't some fringe smark complaining about TNA not providing 30 minute draws between Eddie Edwards and Amazing Red for the World championship when TNA doesn't provide for this audience anymore like you TNA defenders like to dismiss most of the show's critics as, this is complaining about TNA actively harming the appeal of the product they're actually trying to provide just so they can act like they're smart in the face of the IWC. Hostility at the former is understandable (despite how few of the TNA detractors are actually this stupid), but trying to defend the latter makes you look like an idiot that has NO artistic standards and throws a hissyfit when people rightly call you and TNA out on it.

 

[Kid Kamikaze10]

You'd have a point if Impact was satirical and self-depreciating, but we're supposed to be taking it seriously. You can't exactly go and say a show is fake ON THE SHOW (yes, a secondary show technically, but one that ties into the main show) and then expect me to try to take anything that happens on the show seriously.

And the fact that this is wrestling isn't any excuse of the writers ruining the the ability of the fans to immerse themselves in whats supposed to be a serious show. TNA isn't exactly targeting the PG WWE or Chikara demographic afterall. You like TNA, fine I don't care watch it, but don't complain about a good chunk of the viewers complaining about something clearly stupid.

This isn't some fringe smark complaining about TNA not providing 30 minute draws between Eddie Edwards and Amazing Red for the World championship when TNA doesn't provide for this audience anymore like you TNA defenders like to dismiss most of the show's critics as, this is complaining about TNA actively harming the appeal of the product they're actually trying to provide just so they can act like they're smart in the face of the IWC. Hostility at the former is understandable (despite how few of the TNA detractors are actually this stupid), but trying to defend the latter makes you look like an idiot that has NO artistic standards and throws a hissyfit when people rightly call you and TNA out on it.

Awesome post. Totally agree with you.


The whole "breaking 4th wall" thing is a cop-out for what was (and still is) extremely self-destructive booking.

 

[soir8]

Actually the character Deadpool is beloved and popular for this very reason. Also play MGS one of the all time greatest and best selling video games who constantly break the 4th wall and allude to it being a game.

Deadpool comics are both hilarious & cool as fuck (although the writing has been going downhill lately).

The MGS series revolutionized the stealth genre, and each game has been excellent (the ones I've played, anyway. Never tried the ones on PSP).

Hulk Hogan is a washed up, crippled, overrated old glory hound in a company whose name has become synonymous with stupid writing & booking, poor management & bad business decisions.

See the difference?