He needs his old theme back, his new theme is boring.

 

He's already over as a heel including with supposed 'smart' fans.

 

He's not even been on any of this months shows. That can't be a good sign. :draper2

 

Neither was Ambrose.. right before he got called up. So the possible connection is not that straightforward..

Anyway, I keep saying I'd love to see him get called up as a new Real American. I'm pretty sure that with Zeb talking and him playing the patriotic asshole ******* (I know it's a terribly outdated stereotype, but if done right it can be quite awesome/ see "justified") it could really refresh the RA dynamic. Gives him some time to adapt to the main stage being in a team, and he's the perfect guy to turn Swagger face on eventually, seeing as how he'll need to be one at some point for his inevitable feud with Rusev.

That's how I see it anyway...

 

I think it's because he is sooooo boring in the ring.

 

Too injury prone, at that point who cares about your gimmick.

 

I HATE when people say " Oh Corey Graves looks like Punk, he got tattoos " :fpalm

I think nobody give a shit about the dated gimmick, Graves is over with 'smart' fans cause he had a solid reputation in the Indys and for the female audience loves him cause his look screams Ovaries On Fire

 

I dunno, he seems to be doing a pretty good job.

Hes the only effective heel they have in NXT since every other heel they have seems to get cheered (even Bo was getting cheers and split chants for him up against Adrian Neville of all people)

 

Because he doesn't have a Generational Teet to suck on like Blow Dallas.

I don't understand why he's still not on the main roster. No, he's not setting the world on fire with his wrestling ability. But neither is Ryhack, FatigueSta, Big E Melatonin, etc. If wrestling ability was the main requirement for success in WWE, 2/3 of their roster wouldn't even be qualified.

 

The guys you mentioned have one thing Corey Graves doesn't have that makes ALL the difference - they are BIG!

 

He is over, and will get more over due to his talent. Lets not jump the barrel.

 

...what talent? He's boring in the ring, he's boring on the mic, what's the appeal?

 

Best heel on NXT. Prefer his heeling to Bo or Breeze even.

 

Ironically, Graves will get over with crowds, very marketable look.

Terrible, shit wrestler, but look at Roman Reigns :draper2

 

Yep he most likely will. IMO the guy has no talent and shouldn't even be called up to the main roster, but due to his "unique" looks and semi decent mic skills he'll be called up.

 

He has talent in the ring and I guess it's just a matter of opinion on his mic work. I happen to not mind his work on the mic. Right now I think the best move for a talent that you want to build is the tag team division. Pair him up with a big guy. Have him paired with Baron Corbin. Both have similar looks and I think would look natural together. Graves should be on the main roster right now, but I wouldn't mind him in a tag team with Corbin in NXT for 6 months. Then make the move to the main roster and Corbin could be his body guard.

 

I liked him better when he was new and was silent and did that wicked submission move that would make guys cry. Like when he beat the shit out of A-Ry. That's the way he should play his character, not as a cocky heel.

 

He's over as a heel. I've seen it myself in person at armory shows and tv tapings.

 

In truth, Corey Graves does not have a real gimmick, he has a tag line, "Stay Down" and that is basically it. If Corey doesn't ever make it on the main roster it's because he doesn't have a gimmick in the traditional sense and he's also injury prone.

 

Counterpoint: He's hot.

 

I have never been big on Graves, but I wouldn't call him a shit wrestler or anything like that. The guy is like Orton without the 'God given athleticism'. Boring as fuck but they do nothing technically wrong. The other difference between them is Graves can actually talk, sell properly and consistently, and has a character, no matter how much you may dislike the character for any reason, he has one that he sticks with.

Boring? Mostly, yes.
Bad? Apart from being boring you can't honestly say he's bad.

 

I agree with him being the NXT version of Orton. I don't agree with the talking part tho, his mic skills aren't awful but they're nothing to write home about either.

 

two IWC things I will never get are why people adore mediocrity alex riley and hate damn good worker corey graves.

 

Graves is a fantastic mic worker when it comes to using his character in promos. As far as his often used and one dimensional character goes, anyway. People are fickle and irrationally inconsistent with their lists of favourite mic workers anyway honestly.



Riley was a combination of two guys the internet, as a whole, hate. Miz and Cena.
Part of his popularity was being so similar to them, and being rumoured as the next big face, but he was newer, so he wasn't so stale and was still likeable. At least that's what I think.

 

He's skinny Orton. Everything he does is boring. He's not particulary bad at anything, but just so medicore it hurts.

 

Graves is literal dogshit.The kind of dogshit that wouldn't be able to get over with casuals if this was the 80's and he had superman booking :lol The actual WOAT.

 

He will be over with the women. 8*D

 

Can you please stop saying "we" as if we all think the same way you do? I wouldn't mind it so much if most of your posts and opinions weren't extremely questionable and were outside the realm of what most of us believe in here.

 

But WE have seen it before. He wasn't saying that WE all think like him but that the gimmick "I deserve more because i'm great" has been used so many times before that is nothing that would stan out anymore.

 

You guys keep saying he's over with smart fans. When will you all learn? SMART FANS DO NOT MATTER!!!! If they did WWE would care what you think. How many times have guys gotten over in developmental but flopped in WWE?

 

He's over as a heel with you, and many other fans on here. And it's not because he's a bad wrestler, because he isn't. It's because of his heel work. 95% of 'smart fans' are just marks deep down and this forum is no different. Graves is a rare effective heel, just like Bo Dallas was.

 

its become more clear to me as the weeks and months pass that graves won't make it to the main roster. not a slight against him but he has been in developmental nearly 4 years now and is over 30 and wwe are cutting guys that have spent more than 3 years in developmental re: mason ryan.

with kenta, devitt etc on the way his chances have further decreased. he would make a good pickup for tna.

 

He can be decent mid card hand, can't he?