[Mr Shadow]

Because all I see is "Cena buried Barret" as the reason why Barret is not a world champ. I blame Barret's LACK of talent for that.Anyone can feud with Cena and be praised by smarks.Smarks even cheered for the Great Khali over Cena (which questions the level of stupidity from them)


The Nexus were a bunch of nobodies, did u really expect them to cleanly beat John Cena,just because they were a group hostile towards the company?That would be like Austin cleanly jobbing to one of the mean street posse's.


The ONLY reason ppl liked Barret is because he feuded with Cena..NOTHING ELSE. Without Cena, no onw would've cared for Barret and he would've gotten the same DEAD reaction he always has

Proof: The Corre.No Cena,Nobody cared,so it flopped big time

 

[Mr Shadow]

sure people will say "We wanted Cena to turn heel and join Nexus"?


Why? So those nobodies can start beating the WWE stars?The you'll all complain about Cena burying the established WWE guy by having their buddies bury them.


Trust me NOT trolling, this is how smarks work


I remember seeing alot of post of smarks blaming Cena for purposely making WWE bad late last year so fans can think they need Cena

 

[GOON]

Wade Barrett did beat John Cena, though.

 

[NasNYG567]

Of course he wasn't going to win the feud, and I'm not blaming that on Cena. What I feel people forget is that, in wrestling the good guy is supposed to overcome the bad guy(s) eventually, yes the follow up after TLC 2010 could have been better and Nexus should have absolutely won at SummerSlam, but I don't think Barrett got buried.

 

[mmalegend]

I think Barret makes for a perfect Midcard heel and occasional main event heel. He is pretty good on the mic and he can deliver decent matches. Think about our top solo heels at the moment? Compare Barret to them and you will see what I'm saying.

I think people are upset over the nexus because it had the potential to create a few new big stars but the WWE failed to execute on that

 

[Lariatoh!]

I want to disagree with the OP for several reasons, as his argument is that Barrett's "lack of talent" is what buried him and "Nexus were a bunch of nobodies".

Yes, the Nexus were a bunch of rookies, but have anyone ever made a debut the way they did? It was like Armamgeddon at ringside when they tore the place up! Destroyed camera men, announcers, the ring "which is sacred turf" ripped up the whole place. Then these nobodies started taking out big name players, all the names including Vince McMahon himself were laid out by these new on the scene diabolical jackals, led by none other than Wade Barrett.

A man who at the time had the size and the amazing mic skills to carry six other guys on his back and make a huge angle work amazingly. It was a massive push for a group of rookies, especially Barrett but he never let the company down once, with his awesome storytelling and mic skills.

For a group of "nobodies" they looked legit and kayfabe had the whole locker room running scared. And no one was more legit of them than Barrett. He was placed in the main event against Orton and Cena and Sheamus and he didn't look out of place once. He was the damn MVP of the angle and of the company for when they arrived on the scene till when they were literally buried underneath 23 steel chairs.

The Nexus was such a good idea that they stole the angle from Barrett and gave to everyone's favourite "saviour" CM Punk who screwed it all up and it wasn't the same. One could even say that punk didn't have the presecnce Barrett had in that particular role.

Corre was then sent to Smackdown to do what exactly? Feud for the IC title. Terrible.

OP you say Cena losing to Barrett was like Austin losing to Mean Street posse. Really wrong anology. The way the Nexus debuted was more like Kane, and guess what Kane defaeted the almighty Stone Cold Steve Austin for the WWE Championship.

WWE dropped the ball on having the next HHH for their company.

So much wrong with the OP.

 

[ToddTheBod]

WWE dropping the ball on this angle was one of the biggest mistakes in professional wrestling since the end of the Attitude Era.

 

[Mr Shadow]

I want to disagree with the OP for several reasons, as his argument is that Barrett's "lack of talent" is what buried him and "Nexus were a bunch of nobodies".

Yes, the Nexus were a bunch of rookies, but have anyone ever made a debut the way they did? It was like Armamgeddon at ringside when they tore the place up! Destroyed camera men, announcers, the ring "which is sacred turf" ripped up the whole place. Then these nobodies started taking out big name players, all the names including Vince McMahon himself were laid out by these new on the scene diabolical jackals, led by none other than Wade Barrett.

A man who at the time had the size and the amazing mic skills to carry six other guys on his back and make a huge angle work amazingly. It was a massive push for a group of rookies, especially Barrett but he never let the company down once, with his awesome storytelling and mic skills.

For a group of "nobodies" they looked legit and kayfabe had the whole locker room running scared. And no one was more legit of them than Barrett. He was placed in the main event against Orton and Cena and Sheamus and he didn't look out of place once. He was the damn MVP of the angle and of the company for when they arrived on the scene till when they were literally buried underneath 23 steel chairs.

The Nexus was such a good idea that they stole the angle from Barrett and gave to everyone's favourite "saviour" CM Punk who screwed it all up and it wasn't the same. One could even say that punk didn't have the presecnce Barrett had in that particular role.

Corre was then sent to Smackdown to do what exactly? Feud for the IC title. Terrible.

OP you say Cena losing to Barrett was like Austin losing to Mean Street posse. Really wrong anology. The way the Nexus debuted was more like Kane, and guess what Kane defaeted the almighty Stone Cold Steve Austin for the WWE Championship.

WWE dropped the ball on having the next HHH for their company.

So much wrong with the OP.

comparing Barret with Kane?LMAOOOO, Also,Austin didnt lose clean since Taker made Austin bleed not Kane.



Wade Barret the next HHH?Yoy wan the next HHH to go out to DEAD reaction, mediocre wrestling ability, boring English professor look?



Barret the next Triple H :ti

 

[Lariatoh!]

Nice response OP. Yes, on how the Nexus debut was booked to how Kane's debut was booked, and then both Barrett and Kane (heels) both went up against the face of the company soon after the debut. Barrett was getting enormous reactions while he was booked well as the next cerebral assassin, as they always played up his university degrees and his cunning plans to make Cena do his bidding. Did HHH ever get Austin or Rock to do his bidding?

And yes Kane's win was not clean, but Barrett had the whole Nexus, he was a rookie, no one said it had to be a clean victory? Just a match with Cena that made Barrett look strong and then booked well afterwards to be a main event threat in the future.

Your laughing gif doesn't make you smart champ as you have no argument to back up any of your statements.

 

[Mr Shadow]

Nice response OP. Yes, on how the Nexus debut was booked to how Kane's debut was booked, and then both Barrett and Kane (heels) both went up against the face of the company soon after the debut. Barrett was getting enormous reactions while he was booked well as the next cerebral assassin, as they always played up his university degrees and his cunning plans to make Cena do his bidding. Did HHH ever get Austin or Rock to do his bidding?

And yes Kane's win was not clean, but Barrett had the whole Nexus, he was a rookie, no one said it had to be a clean victory? Just a match with Cena that made Barrett look strong and then booked well afterwards to be a main event threat in the future.

Your laughing gif doesn't make you smart champ as you have no argument to back up any of your statements.

who say im trying to look smart? everything you just typed I responded in my first post. Again, The ONLY reason you think Barret is the next HHH is because he feuded with Cena, nothing else.."having cena do his bidding" exactly having Barret boss cena around is the ONLY reason he got over.

If JTG or Santino would've been the Nexus leader and picked on Cena, they would've been praised just as much

Which is why he flopped on Smackdown, failed to make the IC title look meaningful, had numerous "Barret Barage" promos,grew his beard to hide his boring English teacher look,he failed run after run and every single week he came out to DEAD reaction

Like I said, anyone can feud with Cena and be praised as the best guy in the business on here

 

[Lariatoh!]

No the reason I think Barrett could be the next HHH is that he had huge presence as the leader of the Nexus, he looked like he belonged in the main event with the likes of not only Cena, but Sheamus and Orton (who were both the champion during the angle).

Look at Sheamus, he came in and won the title in like a couple of months. And then he has been booked strong ever since. If Barrett had such strong booking the way Sheamus has had, he would be a top heel. The fans would take him seriously as a legit threat to the titles. Instead as IC Champion he lost every single match he had, just like all champions do, with WWE's backward ass booking.

Cena was not the Champion, Super-face Orton was and then he lost it to the awful Miz. You cannot honestly tell me that the Main Event of Wrestlemania that year wouldn't have been ten times better if it were (C)Barrett vs. Cena than the crappy Miz vs. Cena match.

Cena defeats Barrett the evil leader of the Nexus at Mania for the title, and then Rock challenges him to a match at the next WM. From the WM loss, Barrett could have then moved into his feud with Orton earlier while both guys were riding high, making it a co-main event feud.

 

[Mr Shadow]

No the reason I think Barrett could be the next HHH is that he had huge presence as the leader of the Nexus, he looked like he belonged in the main event with the likes of not only Cena, but Sheamus and Orton (who were both the champion during the angle).

Look at Sheamus, he came in and won the title in like a couple of months. And then he has been booked strong ever since. If Barrett had such strong booking the way Sheamus has had, he would be a top heel. The fans would take him seriously as a legit threat to the titles. Instead as IC Champion he lost every single match he had, just like all champions do, with WWE's backward ass booking.

Cena was not the Champion, Super-face Orton was and then he lost it to the awful Miz. You cannot honestly tell me that the Main Event of Wrestlemania that year wouldn't have been ten times better if it were (C)Barrett vs. Cena than the crappy Miz vs. Cena match.

Cena defeats Barrett the evil leader of the Nexus at Mania for the title, and then Rock challenges him to a match at the next WM. From the WM loss, Barrett could have then moved into his feud with Orton earlier while both guys were riding high, making it a co-main event feud.

AGain, the reason ppl got behind Shameis is because he was feuding with Cena, I said this 3 times already.Fans NEVER cheered for his ability, they cheered because he beat Cena.Shaeua flopped as champ in 2010 and became midcard in 2011-12 becaue he ran his course.


Well me and most ppl didnt see Barret as legit, which is why he is a jobber. We saw him as the flavor of the month. Fans never likes him for his ability (which he lacks), they just liked him because he picked on Cena, which is why nobody cares about him since then

 

[LateTrain27]

Barrett's failed pushes wasn't due to his burial by Cena, Barrett just kept getting shitly booked afterwards (most notably the Corre). The one time they actually booked him right and he started to get over (feud with Orton) he eventually got injured (thanks Big Show) and they just kept booking him like crap ever since he returned.

 

[Mr Shadow]

Barrett's failed pushes wasn't due to his burial by Cena, Barrett just kept getting shitly booked afterwards (most notably the Corre). The one time they actually booked him right and he started to get over (feud with Orton) he eventually got injured (thanks Big Show) and they just kept booking him like crap ever since he returned.

Funny u say that because he got a clean win over Orton in early 2013 and got DEAD reactions for it.LOL

 

[NoLeafClover]

Foolishly at the time I did because I thought they actually realized what potential they had with not only Barrett but the angle as a whole. Silly me for thinking Barrett would be able to withstand the Cena Cancer.

You're welcome for the 15 minutes of fame.:cena5

 

[Lariatoh!]

Funny u say that because he got a clean win over Orton in early 2013 and got DEAD reactions for it.LOL

In a throw away match at the start of Raw, that everyone knew would lead no where. At around the same time Barrett put over Bo Dallas, only for Bo to just disappear. It didn't help Bo, and it hurt Barrett even more.

Cena has nothing to do with it, it's the constant poor booking of a very good talent.

 

[MillionDollarProns]

i honestly don't recall a single person thinking Barret would go over Cena