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Not a fair comparison as Jeff has been high his whole career.

If you catch him sober he comes off as a high class academic.
 

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The only thing Jeff Hardy did for the world was give 6ix9ine his appearance
 

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Punk is a better talent, but I'd put Jeff Hardy above him as far as being a Pro Wrestler. People have forgotten how crazy over Jeff was during the Hardys run and then particularly his solo run to the World Title.
 

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Never understood the love for any of the hardy boys. I actually hate Jeff Hardy.


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No.


I rate Punk very highly, in the top 50 all time. But to say he is more well-rounded than that man is just silly.
Of all of the things we can debate that are very subjective. (Mic skills, in-ring skills, charisma, etc)

There is one thing Savage could not do at the same level or close to Cm Punk as matter of fact, and that's playing a an all time great heel. Punk could do just anything near to perfection.
 

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Of all of the things we can debate that are very subjective. (Mic skills, in-ring skills, charisma, etc)

There is one thing Savage could not do at the same level or close to Cm Punk as matter of fact, and that's playing a an all time great heel. Punk could do just anything near to perfection.
Savage couldn’t play a great heel, when he was the heel in what might be the greatest feud in WWE history?

That argument is so off-base, it’s...well, embarrassing.

 

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Savage couldn’t play a great heel, when he was the heel in what might be the greatest feud in WWE history?

That argument is so off-base, it’s...well, embarrassing.

There is no debste here, Savage was not a good as a heel as he was as a face.

Cm Punk could do both at a high level, villain and hero.
 

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I mean CM Punk stole his entire moveset from KENTA, the whole moveset. From the running knee in the corner to the GTS. CM Punk was a great wrestler no doubt but he also ripped off everything from KENTA and refused to even acknowledge it and give him credit for it. I can't respect that. If you are going to do that you could at least give credit to the original. He even got into it on twitter with him.
 

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Is in your *expert* opinion 7.8 an enormous grade for mic skills or what? Lol, why does everyone keep bringing this up
 

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I personally think CM Punk is the most well rounded wrestler of all time.

(I kid, that's totally subjective :D)

Is in your *expert* opinion 7.8 an enormous grade for mic skills or what? Lol, why does everyone keep bringing this up
Because Jeff Hardy, objectively, is not a 7.8 out of 10 when it comes to mic skills.

Maybe at some points in his career he pulled a Bucky Dent and hit a home run but on the whole his mic skills have always been mediocre at best.

His character work might be in the high sevens, I could at least see the argument, and his charisma is definitely through the roof. But mic skills? No way.
 

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I mean CM Punk stole his entire moveset from KENTA, the whole moveset. From the running knee in the corner to the GTS. CM Punk was a great wrestler no doubt but he also ripped off everything from KENTA and refused to even acknowledge it and give him credit for it. I can't respect that. If you are going to do that you could at least give credit to the original. He even got into it on twitter with him.
Don't forget the Kenta "MMA rush" of really shitty awful strikes and kicks that make MMA guys cry.

I don't really hold this against people USUALLY, everyone in wrestling steals moves. Innovating moves isn't really properly acknowledged as it should be. But it's not just one or two moves, it's a bunch of stuff like the Falcon Arrow etc.
 

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I'm gonna give the nod to CM Punk, but here's the thing about Punk, for a smaller guy, his moveset is pretty damn unimpressive, look at a guy like Aleister Black, yeah his matches are spotfest supreme, Punk is a much better storyteller, but as far as athletic talent, it's not even close, Punk tried to land on his feet out of the FU and i was like, dude, you have an inflated point of view of yourself lol.
 
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