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Cause shes like the only main event NXT woman to come to the main roster and legit get nothing, i don't even think shes had a single feud. She was putting on amazing matches with Asuka, was one of the top women in NXT, then came to the main roster and was immediately made an after thought.

Now shes on SDL and surprise surprise shes still doing nothing. I really don't get it, she has an amazing finisher that will always get a pop, shes got a cool entrance, shes good in the ring, whats the deal?
 

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Well first just because you main event in NXT doesn't mean you are going to get anything special in Vince's playground.

I agree she's been misused since April last year and hasn't had a meaningful storyline on the MR usually placed in meaningless short term Feuds such as with the Riott Squad, I was sure she would pair up with Mickie for the tag titles but it's clear she's there for another body to throw in to make up the time win or lose.
 

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Ember is one of those many NXT stars that got called up without a single plan ahead for them. That is the reason why Ember is not in a feud or a big time event because Vince McMahon had her called up and not once thought of what to do with her. It was the same case with Nikki Cross until they paired her up with Alexa Bliss.
 

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I always said that she was going to struggle on the main roster because, as good of a wrestler as she is, she really never has been the most charismatic person, even on NXT, she was by far the most pushed woman besides Asuka in 2017, but she never was more over than the IIconics or Nikki, who despite being less talented inbetween the ropes they made up that with charisma. Could she be used better? Sure, but until she gets a character that connects with people I can't see her going very far, despite her athletic abilities and in ring skills
 

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What they did to Ember Moon is sad, honestly. She had a mysterious, cool character in NXT and WWE could have easily turned it into something. Not a 'female Undertaker' so-to-speak, but something different than all the other women who are all pretty much the same.

She has the entrance, red eyes, is called the "War Goddess", and her finisher, name, and titantron all reference the moon. Great, they are all things that add to the character and could have been built upon. But ever since she debuted to the main roster, WWE just said fuck it and made her another typical female wrestler with an entrance. There are no answers or reasoning as to why she references the moon, why she is called the war goddess, just nothing. So, when WWE stopped caring, the fans did too. Why should we care when they don't? She should have had a lengthy title run by now, I've always liked Ember.
 

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She pissed of the gods of charisma. She's one of the least charismatic shits in history, and by fucking far the absolute worst actor on the planet. I'm not saying this shithole cares about charisma, but even if it did she'd still be a jobber because god she's terrible.
 

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What they did to Ember Moon is sad, honestly. She had a mysterious, cool character in NXT and WWE could have easily turned it into something. Not a 'female Undertaker' so-to-speak, but something different than all the other women who are all pretty much the same.

She has the entrance, red eyes, is called the "War Goddess", and her finisher, name, and titantron all reference the moon. Great, they are all things that add to the character and could have been built upon. But ever since she debuted to the main roster, WWE just said fuck it and made her another typical female wrestler with an entrance. There are no answers or reasoning as to why she references the moon, why she is called the war goddess, just nothing. So, when WWE stopped caring, the fans did too. Why should we care when they don't? She should have had a lengthy title run by now, I've always liked Ember.
Ember Moon's character was shit all the way back in NXT. I'm assuming you're referring to the main roster when you're talking about WWE. Classic case of creative not knowing what to do with the character and instead made her into a cosplayer.
 

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I always said that she was going to struggle on the main roster because, as good of a wrestler as she is, she really never has been the most charismatic person, even on NXT, she was by far the most pushed woman besides Asuka in 2017, but she never was more over than the IIconics or Nikki, who despite being less talented inbetween the ropes they made up that with charisma. Could she be used better? Sure, but until she gets a character that connects with people I can't see her going very far, despite her athletic abilities and in ring skills
The IIconics have been pushed far harder than Ember Moon on the main roster though. Yes, I know what you're going to say, they lose every match and Ember probably wins most of her matches since she's a babyface. Wins and losses really don't mean anything for midcarders, especially heel midcarders like your girls. The IIconics have been given far more mic time and far more character than Ember. They have identifiable personas and actually feel like part of the show, they have a role, you may not like their role, but at least they have one. Who is Ember Moon? We know nothing about her, she's one of the most underdeveloped nondescript people on the entire show, she's basically just the female Apollo Crews. What is Ember Moon's role? She doesn't have one. She is in a way worse position than The IIconics.

Despite being complete jobbers, The IIconics are probably in a better position than about 60% of the roster.
 

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Probably a combination of being a dull performer, being injured before and creative having nothing for her. A lot of talent can get injured, but for those that WWE were never high on to begin with it can make management think they're not worth investing in.
 

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She had some really good match with Liv back on RAW and the two have a good chemistry in the ring, but both don't get used for weeks now! I said it so often, it's such a shame how they waste their Superstars talents!
 

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Ember, Naomi should be top contenders for the SDL/RAW titles, Becky 2 belts, Charlotte set the womens division so far back. I dont have a problem with Ronda cause she was perfect in her role. They knew what it was with Ronda, but Charlotte 9x makes no sense.
 

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The IIconics have been pushed far harder than Ember Moon on the main roster though. Yes, I know what you're going to say, they lose every match and Ember probably wins most of her matches since she's a babyface. Wins and losses really don't mean anything for midcarders, especially heel midcarders like your girls. The IIconics have been given far more mic time and far more character than Ember. They have identifiable personas and actually feel like part of the show, they have a role, you may not like their role, but at least they have one. Who is Ember Moon? We know nothing about her, she's one of the most underdeveloped nondescript people on the entire show, she's basically just the female Apollo Crews. What is Ember Moon's role? She doesn't have one. She is in a way worse position than The IIconics.

Despite being complete jobbers, The IIconics are probably in a better position than about 60% of the roster.
And that's mostly because they are charismatic. They are kinda like Alexa in a way, they can fill time and that's why they keep them around on tv despite not being the best workers, at least since they won the titles that is their role. Let's face it, there are probably only 4 or 5 good or, at least, decent wrestlers in the womens division, but besides Becky (and to a degree Charlotte) the rest of the good workers (Ember, Asuka, Kairi, Natalya) really can't fill time with anything but wrestling, if you put them in a position to cut a promo or do backstage stuff they are gonna struggle. I guess you can put these women against each other in 10-15 minutes matches every week, but Vince seem to care more about the non wrestling stuff than what actually happens inside the ring these days. Someone did the math: Out of the 3 hours of RAW last week there were only 40 minutes of actual wrestling, so if you are not able to do stuff besides knowing how to wrestle it is gonna be hard for you to appear on tv.
 

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Meh. Never cared or been impressed by anything Ember Moon bar her finisher.

Horrendous on the microphone too.
 
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