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I think my biggest problem with Triple H is his status in the company. I don’t even dislike him in fact I’m a fan of a lot of his matches. He seems like a very intelligent guy and I’m even sure that he will be able to effectively run the WWE when his time comes. I wouldn’t dare take away his accomplishments or even play up the fact that he only has his spot because he’s the boss’s son-in-law. Triple H has had a great career due to his hard work and his in-ring ability. Do I think he would be a 13-time champion had he not been married to Stephanie? Probably not, but he would easily have multiple title reigns. While he might not be the greatest technical wrestler, he was always a tremendous heel and played the role perfectly. He was always an amazing in-ring general, one of the greatest story tellers in the history of the business. When he was gone with injuries, it was noticeable. He’s one of the best sellers I’ve ever seen, he could make a Sweet Chin Music look like he got shot in the face by a shotgun. I was never a big fan of him as a face, I think everytime he tries to be funny, it usually backfires or falls short. I mean, he’s definitely had his moments but he had nowhere near the same level of charisma that The Rock or Stone Cold had, and I felt like sometimes he tried to have that.

I think that’s one of my main problems with him. He has always strived to be THE guy, and while he technically may have been for a short period of time, he is nowhere near the Mount Rushmore of wrestling, so to say. Every era had it’s face. Bruno Sammartino was probably the biggest name in professional wrestling during the early years, then you have the biggest names in the history of the business from not only a wrestling standpoint, but a mainstream standpoint. Hogan, Andre The Giant, Savage, Ultimate Warrior, Austin, Rock, Cena. Those are probably the biggest names in the history of the business in a general standpoint that everybody knows. The kind of names that a person who has never watched a professional wrestling match or segment would be able to link to pro wrestling. After that, you have the names that at least a majority of the general public have heard of. That group includes Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, and Brock Lesnar. For one reason or another, I would be pretty confident to say that if you collected 100 people who are less than casual fans of the sport and have only seen a match or two maybe, the number would be above 50% for the names I mentioned above. I would honestly place Triple H in that third tier. You could definitely make the argument to put him in that second tier, but I’m pretty sure if I asked some of my friends who Triple H was, not a lot of them would know.

He’s definitely regarded as one of the legends inside the business and he is respected for his contributions but as I watched him against Lesnar last night, I couldn’t help but feel that he’s only in these matches at this point in his career because of who he is. When he is having this crazy Wrestlemania matches or one-off brawls with Lesnar, I just keep thinking of how he is still chasing this idea that he’s one of those big name legends in that top tier. He always inserts himself into these “dream” matches, but if Triple H ended his in-ring career today, I think I would be completely okay with not seeing him wrestle anymore. It’s a weird thing to try to explain because I’m a big fan of the guy’s career but everytime I see him, I can’t help but feel like he was never heralded as THE guy like Austin or Rock, Cena or Hogan and much of his career, especially from 2002-2006, was based on trying to portray him as one of the greatest ever at the expense of up and coming talent and he was never quite THAT guy.

Does anybody else feel the same way?
 

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I would say he's one of the greatest of all time. But it's so hard to really say who's the greatest. Everyone has their own opinion on who the greatest is. Some think Hogan, some think Austin, some think The Rock. Undertaker, Shawn Michaels and Triple H could all be considered greatest and Ric Flair Flair as well. It's disputable really and i'm sure there are die hard Triple H fans out there who think he is the greatest.
 

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I dont even put him in my top 10.....but i hate him soo yeah..... Bret Hart is my fav...But GOAT is Austin , Rock or Hulk..
 

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The angle the OP seemed to be coming from was how recognisable he is to a non-mark. So we are talking in terms of draw power. In that case then he is unfortunate to have broke out in the same time WWF had two of the biggest superstars ever at the top. He could never be 'the guy' with Stone Cold and Rock there.

I remember Eric Bischoff's RAW debut though and he said that he was certain that if he was able to steal Triple H from the WWE he would have won the Monday Night Wars. Maybe this was kayfabe but it's still a tremendous testimony to The Game.

Triple H was, however a major player in the Attitude era. So you can probably reason that he is the biggest draw behind Austin, Hogan, Rock who are bigger than wrestling, probably on par with John Cena, The Undertaker and Brock Lesnar.

Top 5, maybe, top 10 without a doubt.
 

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I remember Eric Bischoff's RAW debut though and he said that he was certain that if he was able to steal Triple H from the WWE he would have won the Monday Night Wars. Maybe this was kayfabe but it's still a tremendous testimony to The Game.
That was 100% kayfabe. Bischoff talked about that and many other things in an interview about his WWE tenure.

And OP, HHH is popular than Shawn, Bret and others you listed in second tier. Look at facebook/twitter fanbase.
 

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Short answer. No.

In all honesty Triple H is very, very good at all areas of being a WWE superstar. He's great in ring, he has star power, he has a great character, he has a lot of charisma, he's got great mic work, he has in ring presence, he has the look etc. He has everything you need to be truely great, and he is. He just isn't THE best in any area of being a wresler. He's not the best mic worker ever, he's not the best ever in the ring, he's not the most charasmatic star to ever be in the company, he doesn't have the best look ever. So you can't call him the greatest.

All the guys you would maybe include in a discussion for the greatest ever you can argue could be THE best in at least one area of the business. Hulk Hogan had undeniable charisma and star power, maybe the most of anyone. Shawn Michaels was possibly the greastes in ring talent ever, The Rock was possibly the most charasmatic, or had a best look of anyone in the business, Steve Austin was possibly the best on the mic etc. I don't think you can say that Triple H is the best ever in any department and that's why I can't think of him as being the greatest of all time.

He's very good in all areas, but he isn't the best.
 
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