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And no, I'm not talking about the stable he lead with Cody Rhodes and DiBiase jr. I'm talking about his legacy a wrestler.

I've made threads about Cena's and Batista's legacies before, so now it's time for Orton's, since the 3 men all debuted in the main roster in the same year and would become the top stars of their generation.

So, Randy Orton... originally he had a lot of hype and was meant to be the breakout star of Evolution. Hell, WWE saw more in him than in Cena at some point. But Orton's face turn bombed and they had to turn him heel later and push Batista instead. And Cena by then was on his way to become WWE champion as well. So basically, WWE decided that Cena and Batista would be babyfaces whilst Orton would be a heel.

After Lesnar left,WWE made Orton WHC in the summer that year and thus he became the youngest world champion on WWE's history at the time. But after losing his belt to Triple H one month later, it took him 3 other years to win the big one again. He spent 2005 and 2006 mostly in mid-card and upper-midcard feuds. Same for most of 2007 until he started his long awaited feud with Cena.

Orton was originally the Legend Killer, but then he became The Viper. His character went from being a cocky pretty boy douchebag who did the RKO on retired legends and older veterans such as Mick Foley to being a vicious sociopath who heard voices in his head.

I feel like Orton is the "smallest" one of the Cena, Batista and Lesnar lot. He was never able to become the FOTC as he was originally expected to and was never as big of a draw or merch seller as Batista or Cena were. Also, his long awaited feud with Cena which was meant to be the Rock vs. Austin feud of their generation turned out to be rather underwhelming. Orton was supposed to become Cena's nemesis/biggest rival but I think the likes of Edge and CM Punk filled in that role much better.

That being said, Orton is a multi-time world champion and has been around for nearly 2 decades now. He's popular with women for his good looks, which helps him as well. But I still think Orton doesn't have as many memorable moments as Cena(fr better or for worse) or Batista do: Batista might have been on the top for a rather short period, but his run at the top was bigger than Orton at the top has ever been. The hottest Orton has been star power wise was probably late 2008/early 2009, where he feuded with and faced HHH at WM 25. It all began with him punting HBK in the head in late 2007. But the match at WM 25 was a bit of a letdown and I notice people think Hunter sorta killed Orton's heat.

I think I'll remember Orton as the "RKO OUTTA NOWHERE!" guy. It's a good finisher and literally the only flash move Orton has. Most of his moveset is simple and old school-ish.

I dunno what you guys think about his legacy, but I think besides Cena, guys like Batista, Edge and CM Punk had much more interesting and memorable peaks than Orton had. Orton just seems to lack the charisma and the mic skills. He has a monotone voice and it's hard for me to remember major Orton moments that don't involve an RKO.

I'll remember him as a guy who was also winning titles and main eventing in the Cena/Batista/Lesnar era, I guess.

What about you?
 

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He's the Randy Savage to Cena's Hulk Hogan. Randy Orton will be remembered as somebody who was always a top guy, but never the top guy. He'll go down as one of the most fluid ring workers to ever grace the business.
 

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He's the Randy Savage to Cena's Hulk Hogan. Randy Orton will be remembered as somebody who was always a top guy, but never the top guy. He'll go down as one of the most fluid ring workers to ever grace the business.
That's a good description. What about Batista, out of curiosity?
 

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He's the Randy Savage to Cena's Hulk Hogan. Randy Orton will be remembered as somebody who was always a top guy, but never the top guy. He'll go down as one of the most fluid ring workers to ever grace the business.
Batista and Edge were bigger than Orton.
 
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Orton will be considered as Savage to Hogan as he is to Cena because of his longevity. He was over as a face and can get a desired heat as a heel if he wants too. Punk and Edge might be a better rival to Cena than Orton but none of them managed to keep up in terms of longevity. Iirc, Savage wasn't really booked as the top guy during Hogan's era but he was seen as Hogan's equal.
 

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He's the Randy Savage to Cena's Hulk Hogan. Randy Orton will be remembered as somebody who was always a top guy, but never the top guy. He'll go down as one of the most fluid ring workers to ever grace the business.
Batista and Edge were bigger than Orton.
I thought this was obvious to most already.
 

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Randy Orton will forever be known as one of the smoothest in-ring wrestlers of all time. He is literally "your wrestlers favorite wrestler" personified. EVERYONE who has been in the ring with Orton just praises how he is easily one of the best in the world, and how easy he makes it look. However, he'll also always been known as a guy who has done it all, so early in his career, that he has been known to phone it in, and hard. When he is great? We get Legend Killer and Psychotic Orton. Even his face runs where he is into it, like his run vs. Lesnar or post-Authority, he shows real charisma and character. When he isn't? We get John Cena vs. Orton 3009, or Authority Orton.

At least that's how I see Orton. Dude deserves the accolades and the praise, but he also deserves the negatives too. He is somewhat similar to Nakamura, if I am being honest. Just not nearly as charismatic.
 

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I've grown to like Randy over the years I'm not going to lie at first I did not , but he's definitely earned my respect he's solid, he's consistent, he doesn't get injured all the time least I think and he seems to really enjoy the business... I agree though he's not ever going to be considered really the top 10 on anybody's list but he's still considered a good worker although I don't like all the rest holds he does LOL
 

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One of the all time great heels, a multiple time world champion, one of the greatest looks of all time, one of the smoothest inside the ring and a guy who could've been an even bigger star than what he was.
 

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Did Randy ever make another wrestler? Cena did, Hunter did, Brock did.
He made Mark Henry when he put him over clean a couple times during his hall of pain reign.

That was when Randy was rarely losing and so it had impact. The geek squads on here then complained that Randy is booked til strong and have to “put more deserving talents over”, however wins and loses Does matter and after a couple jobs he did- put over Mark Henry who went nowhere once he lost the title, as well as guys like wade barret and jack swagger- the novelty of him losing ran off and stopped having any meaningful impact going forward.
 

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To me? had a scorched earth on fire 2004-2005 campaign, then cooled down afterwards.
 
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