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This is a fairly simple what-if timeline. In this scenario, the WWF still allows Luger to only beat Yokozuna by countout at SummerSlam, with the same scenario being played out that they will wait until WrestleMania to crown him. However the difference is that the World Wrestling Federation decides to ignore fan sentiment for Bret Hart and gives Luger the belt at WMX (in a victory over Hart). In this scenario the WWF is determined to make Lex the next Hulk Hogan and the firm face of the company, no matter what. Just as they are now with Roman Reigns.

Following this, Luger holds the belt for over a year, main eventing WrestleMania XI against a heel Bret Hart before losing to Shawn Michaels at the 1995 Survivor Series. He then wins the 1996 Royal Rumble and regains the title at WrestleMania XII. Despite fan apathy and a host of more popular options (Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, Undertaker, Sid), Luger remains face. He retains the belt until the 1996 Survivor Series, when Undertaker turns heel to beat him in a controversial decision. Luger wins the 1997 Royal Rumble by eliminating Steve Austin, then defeats Undertaker at the main event of WrestleMania 13.

What are the ramifications of Lex Luger receiving a three year sustained push as a patriotic babyface, three WrestleMania main events, and three title reigns?
 

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Business was really bad, so Vince couldn't really afford to keep pushing a guy who wasn't over enough. Roman is lucky to have been pushed post-AE when business is so much better than it was in the early 90's.
 

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Fans weren't whiny geeks back then. They push him, the crowd goes mild, business drops but it was dropping anyways since the product was terrible back then too.

Come 97 it's a bit different as NWO changed the game and fans starting pushing for heels or edgy faces. At that point you'd start to see backlash.
I only took this to 1997. The interesting thing would be if the WWF decided to de-emphasize Austin, or have Luger defeat Steve Austin at WrestleMania 14. Imagine the WWF refusing to alter course at all - Luger is still "Made in the USA" and is being promoted as a babyface, while much of the company and fan base around him changes into the Attitude Era.
 

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He'd have been as big as you possibly could have been during a down period in the business from 93-95. Come late 95-96 fans might start to turn on him to an extent but it would be nothing like what you see with Reigns today.
 

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I only took this to 1997. The interesting thing would be if the WWF decided to de-emphasize Austin, or have Luger defeat Steve Austin at WrestleMania 14. Imagine the WWF refusing to alter course at all - Luger is still "Made in the USA" and is being promoted as a babyface, while much of the company and fan base around him changes into the Attitude Era.
Well you can't have an Attitude Era with a smiling goof at top. It would just be the new gen with Luger on top and WCW would bankrupt them in the process since fans wanted edge.

If Vince had competition he would of pulled the plug on face Roman long ago. He doesn't so all people can do is cry about it while handing him their $. Vince laughs.
 

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If they did this then WWF dies I reckon. You have to think of the ramifications of continuing with Luger on top until 97: Bret doesn't become the top guy, probably takes the offer from WCW and not a 20 year deal with WWF - NO MONTREAL SCREWJOB. Shawn doesn't become the champ, it's likely being the politician he is that he leaves with Hall and Nash and also joins WCW and maybe you get the Shawn/Bret feud there. There's a lot more than this too, you just have to think how much would have to change from history with Luger as champ for 3 years. I just can't see any way that events unfold the way they did at all with Luger on top. We get no Attitude Era and WCW is probably the victor. Considering how bad WCW was run money-wise they could easily have gone bust regardless and then you end up with no WWE OR WCW. Maybe wrestling itself doesn't survive as a viable entertainment industry.
 

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I imagine in this alternate timeline, WWE would still have their AE because of Steve Austin. His Austin 3:16 promo and his Stone Cold persona would be inevitable, and his eventual popularity. He was fired by WCW Bischoff thus he would stay with the WWF. Austin would just be feuding with Luger instead, and Luger would one of the many recipient of the Stunner. In one interview, Hardcore Holly said they were very happy during the AE and were paid handsomely, and it did not matter who were in the main event bracket, they had a happy environment, so Lex Luger would be happy too in the WWF himself.
 

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All they had to do was put The Title on him at SummerSlam 1993. He would've stayed with the WWF if they hadn't kept dicking him around.

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I wonder how a Luger vs a heel Hart would of played out though. Hart with his douchey brothers could make a very formidable stable for Luger to run thru and unlike today when Hart turns fans on him turned too.

If you put something along the lines of 1997's Hart run in 1994 are we sure Luger fails? That won't be Hogan or Austin popular but that may be good enough to make Luger feel like a Main Eventer.
 

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I read years ago that Lex would have jumped ship in 1995 anyways.
He just disliked working for WWE compared to his good ol' NWA days. He just wanted to comeback to work along his buddies Ric Flair and Arn Anderson, that was noted by Bischoff who offered alower pay to return compared to what he was paid in WWE.
 
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This thread is stupid.

Luger was miscasted in WWF, and anyone who saw his work in WCW before and after that run would notice that.

Luger was on Sting level with the crowd in 1998 as a face. And was stupid over in 1989.

Some guys got booked better in WCW than in WWE, but that doesn't mean the guy is a failure, could just be the booking
 

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Luger had the best physique in pro-wrestling history and his ring work was very decent. In fact, he was miles above the likes of Hogan, Warrior, Diesel, etc; IMO his wrestling abilities at least from 89-97 was very decent. The Made in USA character would have been even superior to the stale act of Hulk that we had to endure between 88-91(no doubt Hogan was drawing even though not at the level a few years before but his work was lazy and dreadful to watch during this time). When Vince actually put that gimmick on him, it was very much passe, and Bret was the definition of a babyface to a lot of fans. Luger should have stayed heel and I am sure he would have kicked all kinds of ass if he had been a heel. Might be a bit off topic but looking back, Vince dropped the ball big time with the talent he had between 93-early 95. The booking was fucking awful from top to bottom. The only reason why I watched was because of guys like Bret, HBK, Owen, Taker, and Razor.
 
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