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The following is the fantasy booking of an ECW January 2002 PPV. What if WWE had ONLY purchased WCW and NOT also purchased ECW in 2001? What if someone else (who had as deep of pockets as Ted Turner, i.e. Rupert Murdoch or Donald Trump) had purchased ECW, re-branded it a bit (keeping as much of old ECW as possible yet expanding it to appeal to a more diverse audience) and kept it alive as WWE’s main competition. All it would have taken was an owner that would be willing to shell out the bucks (like Ted Turner did for Bischoff) & obtain a TV deal (Both of the previously mentioned billionaires could have accomplished that) ; and an actual businessman/manager who who could do a better job than Bischoff. Ideally this person would have been the final decision guy, yet someone who could have gotten the most out of creative minds like Paul Heyman, Dusty Rhodes, Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Sullivan, etc. Surely there was someone who could have done this in the wrestling world). I mean Bischoff consistently beat Vince for quite a long time and Bischoff was horrible! And I think fans would have pounced on this! I mean ECW even at it’s best could not have gone head to head with Raw or Nitro on Monday night, but if they would have had a live show back in the late 90s on a different night of the week, heck even opposite Thunder, fans would have been all over that. And even fans who didn’t watch ECW that much at least knew it was the #3 company and they knew it offered a different product than the other two. In the absence of WCW it could have made major strides to compete with WWE simply because we as fans had gotten accustomed to 2 competing products that were both good yet completely different. And to answer the imminent question about Paul Heyman, I would have given him the option to just stay home and collect a check, OR if he wanted to be involved creatively, he could do so as part of a team but would be required to have an on-air role. I would have let him choose between color-commentary and managing. The following scenario is him as a manager. If he would have chosen color-commentary I would have just interchanged him with Bobby Heenan and the faction known as The Dangerous Alliance would have become The Heenan Family. If this would have happened in 2001, this would have been my very first PPV of 2002 to kickoff the re-birth of ECW. My version of an ECW re-birth would have looked like 50% the best of old ECW’s product and 50% the best of WCW’s product. It would be a 2-night kickoff PPV; Saturday AND Sunday each having a 1-hour pre-show. So most of the matches would be those two nights with a few airing a few days later on the weekly programming. Let me know what you guys think, not just about the concept but also about the card, the factions, ALL THOSE MANAGERS AND VALETS!!! And I know it’s a huge card but....pick me some winners!!!

[ ] brackets denote belonging to a faction

Chairman of Executive Committee: Todd Gordon (on-air role only)

Commissioner: “Rowdy” Roddy Piper

Broadcast Team:

Ring Announcers
—David Penzar
—Gary Michael Cappetta

—“Mean” Gene Okerlund
—Jeremy Borash
—Sean Mooney

Ringside Announce Team #1
—Joey Styles
—“The Living Legend” Larry Zbyzsko
—Magnum T.A. / “Superstar” Billy Graham (babyface) either of these men would be subbing for “The American Dream” Dusty Rhodes who was wrestling on the card.

Ringside Announce Team #2
—Tony Schiavone
—Bobby “The Brain” Heenan
—“The Professor” Mike Tenay

Ringside Announce Team #3
—Scott Hudson
—The HonkyTonk Man
—Magnum T.A. / “Superstar” Billy Graham / Lee Marshall (would try out different options here)

ECW World Heavyweight Championship Match

“The Franchise” Shane Douglas [The Dangerous Alliance] w/ Francine, Paul E. Dangerously, and Mr. Hughes
“The Macho Man” Randy Savage

Ladder Match for ECW Television Championship

“Mr. PPV” Rob Van Dam w/ Bill Alphonso
Jerry Lynn

ECW Cruiserweight Championship Match

Chris Candido [Dangerous Alliance] w/ Tammy Sytch, Paul E. Dangerously, and Mr. Hughes
Juventud Guerrera

20-Team Gauntlet Battle Royal (Royal Rumble style, but when 1 member of team is eliminated the whole team is) for vacant ECW World Tag-Team Championships

—Bad Breed (Axl & Ian Rotten) [The Asylum] w/ Warden Cyrus (aka Don Callis)

—The Public Enemy (“Flyboy” Rocco Rock & Johnny Grunge) w/ “The Mouth of the South” Jimmy Hart

—The Nasty Boys (Brian Knobbs & Jerry Sags) w/ “The Nasty Girl” Missy Hyatt

—The Can-Am Express (Doug Furnas & Phil LaFon) [The Alliance] w/ “Superstar” Bill Dundee

—The Rock’n’Roll Express (Ricky Morton & Robert Gibson)

—The Fantastics (Tommy Rogers & Bobby Fulton)

—The Southern Rockers (Rex King & Steve Doll)

—The Texas Hangmen (Killer & Psycho) (aka Disorderly Conduct; Mean Mike & Tough Tom) w/ “Dirty” Dutch Mantel

—The Destruction Crew (Wayne Bloom & Mike Enos) (aka The Beverly Brothers) [The Stud Stable] w/ Col. Robert Fuller

—Badd Company (Paul Diamond & Pat Tanaka) [The Syndicate] w/ Scott D’Amore

—The French Canadians (Jacques Rougeau & Carl Oulett) w/ “The Mouth of the South” Jimmy Hart

—The Demolishers (Axis & Smasher) (aka Demolition) w/ Baron Von Raschke

—The Pitbulls (Pitbull I & Pitbull II) w/ Jason Knight

—The Jurassic Powers (Scott Norton & Hercules Hernandez) [Mega-Bucks Enterprises] w/ Ted Dibiase & Verble (aka Virgil)

—The Disasters (Monsoon & Tsunami) (aka Typhoon & Earthquake)

—The New Samoan Swat Team (Samu & Tama) w/ Afa

—The Steiner Brothers (“Big Poppa Pump” Scott Steiner & “The Dog-Faced Gremlin” Rick Steiner)

—The British Bruisers (Davey Boy Smith & Johnny Smith) w/ Capt. Lou Albano

—The Gangstas (New Jack & Mustafa)

—The Roadwarriors (Hawk & Animal) w/ Paul Ellering

War Games

The Dangerous Alliance
—“The Perfect One” Curt Hennig
—King Kong Bundy
—The New Skyscrapers (“Psycho” Sid Vicious & “Primetime” Brian Lee) W/ Madusa, Paul E. Dangerously, and Mr. Hughes
The Dream Team
—“The American Dream” Dusty Rhodes
—“The Natural” Dustin Rhodes
—Barry Windham
—“The Russian Nightmare” Nikita Kollof

Hardcore War Games

Sullivan’s Army of Darkness
—Kevin Sullivan [Devastation Inc.]
—Abdullah the Butcher [Devastation Inc.]
both w/ Gen. Skandor Akbar
—Big Van Vader w/ Harley Race
—Sabu w/ Bill Alphonso
The Hardcore Dream Team
—“The Innovater of Violence” Tommy Dreamer w/ Beulah McGillicuty
—“The Hardcore Legend” Terry Funk w/ Dory Funk Jr.
—Cactus Jack
—The Sandman

30-Minute Iron Man Match

“The Chosen One” Jeff Jarrett w/ 911
Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat

Fatal 4-Way for #1 Contendorship to ECW World Heavyweight Championship

Ken Shamrock w/ Bruno Sammartino V.S.
Masato Tanaka [The J-Car Corporation] w/ Gary Hart

Rey Mysterio Jr.
The Great Sasuke [The J-Car Corporation] w/ Gary Hart

Jushin Thunder Liger
Ultimo Dragon w/ Sonny Onoo

ECW Rules Family War

The Dudley Family
—“Big” Dick Dudley
—“Little” Snot Dudley
—“Little” Spike Dudley
—Chubby Dudley
—Dudley Dudley
—Dances With Dudley
w/ Sign-Guy Dudley & “The Quintessential Studmuffin” Joel Gertner
The Full-Blooded Italians
—Little Guido Maritato
—Big Guido Maritato
—Tony Mamaluke
—Vito Lagrasso
—“The Italian Stallion” J.T. Smith —“The Main Man” Tracey Smothers
w/ “The Big Don” Tommy Rich and Sal E. Graziano

Doom III (Butch Reed, Tony Atlas, and Tony Norris (aka Ahmed Johnson)) w/ Sister Sherri Martel
The Armstrong Brothers (Brad Armstrong, Scott Armstrong, and Steve Armstrong) w/ “Bullett” Bob Armstrong

“Hacksaw” Jim Duggan [The Alliance] w/ “Superstar” Bill Dundee
“The Carribean Heartthrob” Al Perez [The J-Car Corporation] w/ Gary Hart

4-Way King of the Mountain Match for #1 Contendorship to ECW Cruiserweight Championship

Super Crazy
A.J. Styles
Kid Kash w/ Jason Knight

The Ugandan Warriors (Kamala & Kamala II (aka Uganda)) [Devastation Inc.] w/ Gen. Skandor Akbar & Sgt. Friday (aka Kim Chee)
The Sheephearders (Butch Miller & Luke Williams) (aka The Bushwackers)

Best of 5 Series
New Japan v.s. All Japan

Legends Match
New Japan
Tatsumi Fujanami
All Japan
Riki Choshu

Tag-Team Match
New Japan
Yuji Nagata & Satoshi Kojima
All Japan
Jun Akiyama & Jinsei Shinzaki

For IWGP Heavyweight Championship
Champion (New Japan)
Kensuke Sasaki
Challenger (All Japan)
Toahiaki Kawada

6-Man Tag-Team Match
New Japan
—Masahiro Chono
—Hiroyoshi Tenzan
—Shinya Hashimoto
all w/ Sonny Onoo
All Japan
—Genichiro Tenryu
—Hiroshi Hase
—Akira Taue

For Triple-Crown Heavyweight Championship
Champion (All Japan)
Mitsuharu Misawa [The Alliance] w/ “Superstar” Bill Dundee
Challenger (New Japan)
The Great Muta [The J-Car Corporation] w/ Gary Hart

The Badstreet Boys (Christian York & Joey Matthews)
PG-13 (JC Ice & Wolfie D)

Mil Mascaras [The Alliance] w/ “Superstar” Bill Dundee
Cien Caras

Prince Iaukea

The Moondogs (Spike, Spot, and Cujo) w/ Richard Lee
The Syndicate (Simon Diamond, Johnny Swinger, and “The Enforcer” C.W. Anderson) w/ Scott D’Amore

La Parka
El Canek

The Headhunters (Headhunter I and Headhunter II) [The J-Car Corporation] w/ Gary Hart
The Carribean Connection ( Ricky Santana & Fidel Sierra)

Carlito Colon
Miguel Perez Jr.

The Extremists (Devon Storm & Ace Darling)
Los Villanos (Villano IV and Villano V)

Carlos Colon
TNT (aka Savio Vega)

20-Man Cruiserweight Battle Royal

—Perro Aguayo
—Perro Aguayo Jr.
—Hector Garza
—Jerry Estrada
—Negro Casas
—Silver King
—Latin Lover
—Heavy Metal
—El Dandy
—El Hijo del Santo
—El Samurai
—Pierroth Jr.
—Tiger Mask IV
—Gran Hamada
—Blue Panther
—Dick Togo
—Taka Michinoku
—Shinjiro Ohtani
—Koji Kanemoto

The Asylum (The Convict (aka Nailz), The One Man Gang, and Bruiser Mastino (aka Mantaur)) w/ Warden Cyrus
The House of Humperdink (“The Beast From the East” Bam Bam Bigelow, Brutus Beefcake, and “Iceman” King Parsons) w/ Sir Oliver Humperdink

Justin Credible [Mega-Bucks Enterprises] w/ Dawn Marie, Ted Dibiase, and Verble
Kevin Von Erich w/ Thunderbolt Patterson

8-Man Elimination Tag-Team Match (Survivor Series style)

—“Old School” Steve Corino [The Syndicate] w/ Jack Victory and Scott D’Amore
—Greg “The Hammer” Valentine w/“The Mouth of the South” Jimmy Hart
—“Dr. Death” Steve Williams [Mega-Bucks Enterprises] w/ Ted Dibiase and Verble
—Black Bart [The Stud Stable] w/ Col. Robert Fuller
—Bob Backlund
—Mikey Whipwreck
—Al Snow
—Flash Flanagan

The Patriot [The Alliance] w/ “Superstar” Bill Dundee
Tonga (aka Haku) [Devastation Inc.) w/ Gen. Skandor Akbar

The Alliance (Chris Chavis (aka Tatanka) and Norman Smiley) w/ “Superstar” Bill Dundee
The Stud Stable (Bobby Eaton & Jimmy Golden (aka Bunkhouse Buck)) w/ Col. Robert Fuller

“The War-Machine” Rhino w/ “The Mouth of the South” Jimmy Hart
2 Cold Scorpio

“The Japanese Buzzsaw” Tajiri [Mega-Bucks Enterprises] w/ Ted Dibiase and Verble
Lash LeRoux

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Not reading all of that but they'd have been bankrupt by 2002 and Heyman would be swimming with the fishies.

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I was born in '95 and, living in the South, we watched a bunch of WCW and then WWF/E, never any ECW. So I don't know many of the names here, but it looks like it would be a stacked card! Are you looking for us to pick who we think would win? Or are you going to type out the show?

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My picks:

Shane Douglas
French Canadians
Dangerous Alliance
Hardcore Dream Team
Ultimo Dragon
Doom III
Ugandan Warriors
Nagata and Kojima
Tenryu, Hase, and Taue
Great Muta
Cien Caras
La Parka
El Hijo del Santo
Corino, Valentine, Williams, and Bart
2 Cold Scorpio

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if ecw had survived ROH and FIP wouldn't exist

If wwe only purchased wcw there would be no guarantee for ecw because of the FCC and PTC lawsuits from the turn of the millennium and the bad rep around promotions not named WWE

trust me, the climate of tv doomed mainstream wrestling long before the acquisition of WCW even happened
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