[humanracer25]

Was it well done? Would you have kept him heel for longer?

 

[Emperor Palpatine]

I hated how it was done. Survivor Series, he was the leader of Team Alliance, trying to put WWF out of business. Next night on Raw, he's randomly a face again FOR NO REASON .

 

[YoungGun_UK]

Looking back at how that angle played out, it would have mad FAR MORE sense if they had just done the double switch from the start so Austin would have never sided with Vince but Shane from the off and took the title to WCW at the end of Mania 17.

 

[BK Festivus]

The fact that Austin was the face and Angle was the heel after Survivor Series 2001 made no sense whatsover.

 

[humanracer25]

Looking back at how that angle played out, it would have mad FAR MORE sense if they had just done the double switch from the start so Austin would have never sided with Vince but Shane from the off and took the title to WCW at the end of Mania 17.

If I am right thought, they had not fully purchased WCW at that point.

 

[Sydney Wolfe]

They had. There was a live segment where Vince was about to buy WCW, but Shane moved first:

youtube.com/watch?v=MnnxV8aoReU

Then they had a match in WM17:

youtube.com/watch?v=8IN5hvJYwxM

But I agree with KingCal: Austin's heel turn after the Invasion story was absurd altogether.

 

[phoenixpanesar]

RR-WM = FACE
WM - KOTR = HEEL
KOTR - INVASION = FACE
INVASION - SS = HEEL
SS - = FACE

Some year!!!

He just walked up, beat up the guy who cost him at SS, beat on Vince who was on the opposite team, took his title = FACE?!

 

[-Halo-]

It was retarded, at the time I didnt care, I always preferred Austin as a face, now looking back at it It was senseless.

 

[benladdie3000]

should have stayed face

 

[Rocky Mark]

that face turn is enough proof that austin is one of the best - if not the best - face character in WWE history , and why vince is one of - if not the best - heel character of all time

one day earlier vince was a super-over face while austin was a mega heel , the next night all they had to do to switch that is hit austin's music and have him beat the shit out of vince , they didn't need to cut a promo or have a dramatic finish or any of that bullshit .. all they did is have austin whip vince and boom , austin is a face and vince is satan's twin once again

 

[chargebeam]

It made no sense, but I still wish I could relieve such a year again. That was the last time I had fun watching WWE for an entire year.

 

[apokalypse]

in 2001 WWE got so many guys great as heel but there's no really strong babyface...Chris Benoit-Kurt Angle-Jericho could make a mini stable with Vince against Austin and HHH. Invasion could start around Royal Rumble or end of the year. as kayface wise Ric Flair is the leader along with Paul Heymen ruining WCW in expense of Vince, even tho Vince is the owner but he can't do anything...

AUstin should have never turn heel..his heel turn is great everything but just doesn't make sense how he align with Vince especially HHH how he trying to take Austin out over hit and run incident.

HHH and Austin had epic match the built up is epic they was killing each other but after WM they became Buddy best friend? i could still have HHH/Austin as odd couple who hate each other but they have common goal that is Vince. Austin/HHH could have great fued with Beniot-Kurt angle and Jericho...

 

[austin316 G.O.A.T]

that face turn is enough proof that austin is one of the best - if not the best - face character in WWE history , and why vince is one of - if not the best - heel character of all time

one day earlier vince was a super-over face while austin was a mega heel , the next night all they had to do to switch that is hit austin's music and have him beat the shit out of vince , they didn't need to cut a promo or have a dramatic finish or any of that bullshit .. all they did is have austin whip vince and boom , austin is a face and vince is satan's twin once again

Austin was a rarity in wrestling
If not for Austin vs McMahon -Rock would be ahead of him
After that feud,he could do whatever he wanted and crowd just loved it

 

[Rock316AE]

that face turn is enough proof that austin is one of the best - if not the best - face character in WWE history , and why vince is one of - if not the best - heel character of all time

one day earlier vince was a super-over face while austin was a mega heel , the next night all they had to do to switch that is hit austin's music and have him beat the shit out of vince , they didn't need to cut a promo or have a dramatic finish or any of that bullshit .. all they did is have austin whip vince and boom , austin is a face and vince is satan's twin once again

I agree with you on everything but it wasn't the story, Austin got booed for the next 2 shows after the Flair face turn. If I remember correctly Rock cut a promo a week after that and tried to put him over and the crowd booed, I can't find this, but it was the SD after SVS 2001 or the RAW after the Flair return. It took a few weeks for Austin to get full support again. Which is understandable with the horrible turn they did.

 

[dazzy666]

started the decline of the rattlesnake tbh

in 2001 WWE got so many guys great as heel but there's no really strong babyface...Chris Benoit-Kurt Angle-Jericho could make a mini stable with Vince against Austin and HHH. Invasion could start around Royal Rumble or end of the year. as kayface wise Ric Flair is the leader along with Paul Heymen ruining WCW in expense of Vince, even tho Vince is the owner but he can't do anything...

AUstin should have never turn heel..his heel turn is great everything but just doesn't make sense how he align with Vince especially HHH how he trying to take Austin out over hit and run incident.

HHH and Austin had epic match the built up is epic they was killing each other but after WM they became Buddy best friend? i could still have HHH/Austin as odd couple who hate each other but they have common goal that is Vince. Austin/HHH could have great fued with Beniot-Kurt angle and Jericho...

the reason that this was done was to get austin mega heat, he said himself he needed hhh to get him the heat they got, which is why the destroyed the rock, hardys and lita with the chairs.

hhh back then was the heel god!

 

[666_The_Game_666]

It baffles me how Angle made the switch from Alliance to WWF during the Survivor Series match and becomes a heel. Austin who was the leader of the Alliance gets pinned and becomes a face. It makes zero sense how this occurred but as for Austins face run I found it very mediocre this was no 1998 Steve Austin he was still a big name but i felt he lacked that aura Rock had and what Hunter would have when he came back in January Austin just was there cos he was Steve Austin.

 

[Sion316]

Agreed with the comment above Austin wasn't the same after the heel turn and his wwe career went downhill and of course having a guy like Lesnar coming in who was on a gigantic push didn't do any favours either.

 

[blazegod99]

Idk what the hell everybody else watched. I thought Austin's face turn was actually great IMO. Austin was never even getting booed that much as a heel after around September... he did get booed SOMEWHAT on the first week he turned back face, but thats fine. He had the crowd back on his side the next week and they stayed there heavily. I thought Austin was awesome the whole 2001 year. I think his Flair/Angle/Vince segment was fucking classic man.

 

[DesolationRow]

I would rather have seen them continue with Austin being a heel going into Wrestlemania. Instead of Austin/Hall or Triple H/Jericho, they should have built toward Triple H/Austin at Wrestlemania XVIII, with Triple H as the returning avenging babyface winning The Royal Rumble (as he did) and Austin as still the evil heel champion who'd do anything to stay at the top, delaying the ostensible inevitable of Rock and, in a certain way, Triple H, surpassing his status at the very top of WWF/E.

Instead, we got two underwhelming feuds and matches for Wrestlemania instead of the one big potential mega match that could have stood almost alongside The Rock vs. Hogan.

After Wrestlemania, Austin could/should have taken the time off he needed after effectively carrying the company on his back for over a year and returned with a huge babyface turn. His natural new enemy would be the new big bad heel Brock Lesnar. And they could have built toward a pay-per-view money match between them instead of the fiasco with creative/Austin/Vince that happened backstage and helped to derail the entire product at the time.

As it stands, Austin's babyface turn in late November 2001 is one of the most anti-climactic, rote, pedestrian and boring turns for a true megastar that has ever happened. Woefully forgettable and completely undeserving of him. Sure, his heel run was nowhere near ideal or even altogether good for business at all but they could have at least written a third and final conclusive act for it rather than rushing him back to being a face just like that.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

Really made no sense. He was heel just the night before at Survivor Series and Angle pretty much helped team WWF win and all of a sudden Austin is face and Angle's heel? Really made no sense and seemed pretty rushed.