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Just some thoughts I recieved in an e-mail.


Learn these facts to properly debate
our poor misguided friends &
family before election time !!!

There were 39 combat related killings
in Iraq during the month of January.....

In the fair city of Detroit there were
35 murders in the month of January.

That's just one American city,
about as deadly as the entire war torn country of Iraq.

When some claim President Bush shouldn't
have started this war, state the following ...

FDR...
led us into World War II.
Germany never attacked us: Japan did.
>From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost,
an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman...
finished that war and started one in Korea,
North Korea never attacked us.
>From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost,
an average of 18,334 per year

John F. Kennedy...
started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.
Vietnam never attacked us.

Johnson...
turned Vietnam into a quagmire.
>From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost,
an average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton..
went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent,
Bosnia never attacked us.
He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter
three times by Sudan and did nothing.
Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

In the three years since terrorists attacked us
President Bush has ...
liberated two countries,
crushed the Taliban,
crippled al-Qaida,
put nuclear inspectors in Libya,
Iran and North Korea
without firing a shot,
and captured a terrorist who slaughtered
300,000 of his own people.

The Democrats are complaining
about how long the war is taking, but...
It took less time to take Iraq
than it took Janet Reno to take the
Branch Davidian compound.
That was a 51 day operation.

We've been looking for evidence of
chemical weapons in Iraq for less
time than it took Hillary Clinton to
find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division
and the Marines to destroy the Medina
Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to
call the police after his Oldsmobile
sank at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took
to count the votes in Florida!!!!

Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB!
The Military moral is high!

The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the
facts.
 

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I didn't feel like reading all of this, is this against or for George Bush? I don't understand wtf you are trying to say here.
 

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OK, this is a stupid post. The thing going on in Iraq is NOTHING compared to what went on when the US sent troops to World War II and Vietnam. You just can't compare them.

fat kid said:
FDR...
led us into World War II.
Germany never attacked us: Japan did.
>From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost,
an average of 112,500 per year.
So what if Germany didn't attack you guys. They were building nuclear weapons, killing millions of Jews, and pummeling America's allies. It's a little thing called helping out your fellow nation.

As far as the rest of the stuff...whatever. If having that as your opinion floats your boat, so be it.[/QUOTE]
 

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um... In world War II, The Japanese were with the Germans and the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor you moron(fat kid).
 

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fat kid said:
FDR...
led us into World War II.
Germany never attacked us: Japan did.
>From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost,
an average of 112,500 per year.
And the Germans killed 6 million Jews. But pfft, they didn't attack you, so who cares?
 

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It doesn't matter if any country attacked us. It's a matter of doing the right thing. We have had reasons, however stupid or relevant, for every war. People blame the Iraqi war on oil, it's still a reason. It's not even the presidents decision, he(she in 2008, President Clinton) is simply a face to report. He's a delivery boy, from the Government to the people.
 

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1. G.W.B. is the first President of the United States that has had to fight a war with up to the minute updates and media analysis, as a former member of the media I can assure you all of this. Every war before now, the military spoon fed the media what the military wanted made public.

2. You can't tell me that there was any more proof of Germany's nuclear threat than the (I admit) misconception, thus far, of Iraqi WoMD.

3. Please read the whole statement in the original topic and consider what national leaders have to contemplate everyday. Clinton only had to decide how big of a cigar to use.
 

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fat kid said:
2. You can't tell me that there was any more proof of Germany's nuclear threat than the (I admit) misconception, thus far, of Iraqi WoMD.
Are you completely braindead? The nuclear threat was not the only reason for the USA involving themselves in WWII.
 
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I'm going to call the following people stupid: D-Man, Flash...

And that's it. I don't think Grace ever said anything about it being fat kid's opinion. (Plus, she's a female. :eek: )

He, as already posted in the first post, received this e-mail. Maybe he agrees, BUT he didn't write it.

Yeah, guess what? Germans did kill 6 million Jews, and even tons of non-Jews. However, Saddam has killed 300,000 of his own people (I am unsure of this stat. but the first post says it...I was sure it was over 2 million....). That's enough people to move in, with or without UN. Mislead? Maybe, but that does NOT mean we shouldn't have went to Iraq, which is a 'key' point to the whole Republicans vs Democrats election. Bush was fed wrong intelligence, sure, and announced the intelligence as he received it. Maybe he should have just admitted he was wrong, but that STILL doesn't mean the war on Iraq is unjustified.

Oh, and I haven't taken a history course in a while, but didn't Germany attack American ships using submarines or something like that? And America didn't retaliate because the president wanted to avoid war? If I'm wrong, oh well, not like I care much about history.
 

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So why am I (and D-Man, for that matter) being called stupid, exactly?
 
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