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· WeeWoo WeeWoo
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It might be to early to tell, but I'm gonna have to say in the long run yes. After they disband it will be clearer to tell, but I really don't think their pairing has benefitted him and his career. Now, if they had had the tag titles I would say yes, especially if it was a successful and exciting reign, but we're obviously not getting that.

Another thing I'd like to point out is what happens after the Real Americans disband. It's obvious Cesaro is the more over and popular of the two both with the fans and the WWE, but logic would tell us that a Cesaro vs Swagger feud could be amazing to see in the ring. However, I seriously doubt the WWE has any intention of really letting these two go at each other. Which goes to my next point, I think it's very possible that Swagger could end up at the bottom of the card after Cesaro squashes him. Which, obviously, is not good.

Initially and even now I enjoy them as a team and they've exceeded my expectations, even if the RAs will never be properly utilized. However, I think it could prove to be the nail in the coffin of Swagger's relevance/career at this point. Cesaro's basically, in my eyes, sucked any possibility out of Swagger really getting anything thrown to him in the future (although it's obviously not on the fault of Cesaro whatsoever). This isn't to say I don't like or enjoy Cesaro, I do as much as any member of the IWC, but it's obvious who I like and value more.

So what about you guys? How do you think Cesaro's influence has/will affect Swagger's career? What's next for Swagger? What's next for Cesaro? Has Swagger benefited or suffered because of Cesaro?
 

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I think Swagger was dead in the water anyways. He failed to get much of a reaction after his push last year, I doubt that they have much confidence in him now.

His only hope now is that they let him continue to pair with Zeb, but something tells me he'll jump ship with Cesaro when they break up. Not hating, just being honest.
 

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I think Swagger was dead in the water anyways. He failed to get much of a reaction after his push last year, I doubt that they have much confidence in him now.

His only hope now is that they let him continue to pair with Zeb, but something tells me he'll jump ship with Cesaro when they break up. Not hating, just being honest.
I do agree he wasn't doing much of anything, but in the same light he was still getting the proper boos and whatnot and yes, even We the People chants (they obviously weren't as vocal as they are now, but they did exist before Cesaro. I could find examples if people are interested).
Hopefully he does remain with Zeb, but if Colter decides to go back in retirement he might have to change his gimmick a little.

Yup it saved his career. Swagger is a bum who would be dancing with Emma and Santino if it wasn't for Zeb and Cesaro.
Highly doubt they'd ever put him in that dumb of a gimmick. No offense to Santino or Emma, but he's light years ahead of them in ring skill. The WWE would never waste him that badly.
 

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Not really, Swagger suffered from getting the DUI before Wrestlemania. However, teaming up with Cesaro allowed him to be apart of a great team that was never allowed to show their potential to be tag team champions. There is nothing wrong with him stepping aside and allowing Cesaro to move up the card. The one thing that is good is it will give him something interesting to do feuding with Cesaro otherwise he would just be floating around in midcard hell like the rest of the midcard
 

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They needed something consistent for Cesaro to develop. Look at it this way, a lot of the big stars over the years had tag team runs before hitting the big time
While obviously Cesaro's gonna be a big star (hopefully). I'd be even more pissed about Swagger's mistreatment in the RAs if Cesaro DOESN'T have a big push/career because it means Swagger's burial was pointless.

Not really, Swagger suffered from getting the DUI before Wrestlemania. However, teaming up with Cesaro allowed him to be apart of a great team that was never allowed to show their potential to be tag team champions. There is nothing wrong with him stepping aside and allowing Cesaro to move up the card. The one thing that is good is it will give him something interesting to do feuding with Cesaro otherwise he would just be floating around in midcard hell like the rest of the midcard
Except the RAs will get the Rhodes Scholars treatment and we'll never see a decent feud between them. Seriously, when was the last time a tag team disbanded and a good feud resulted? Don't worry, I'll wait. The fact the WWE doesn't value or ever properly use Swagger and the fact they can forever hang his DUI over his head further proves he won't benefit from their feud in any shape or form. It'll be a squash match on RAW at best.
 

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Well IMO generally wrestlers are better off alone. It's like with the Shield, one guy will always suck the potential out of the other(s) one(s) by design or by luck. Here I'm not sayin Swagger has had that much potential before RA but he was still somewhat relevant, had programs with Del rio and Ziggler over the WHC. Now when the RA dissolution Cesaro might take that spot.
 

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At least he gets to be a part of something at the moment, no knock on Swagger because he's good in the ring but pretty bland compared to what the WWE seems to be looking for. They've misused more talented guys in the past so this isn't too bad for Swagger at the moment. Swagger's one of those guys that will never be huge in a place like WWE were ring skill & technical prowess are not a high priority.
 

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At least he gets to be a part of something at the moment, no knock on Swagger because he's good in the ring but pretty bland compared to what the WWE seems to be looking for. They've misused more talented guys in the past so this isn't too bad for Swagger at the moment. Swagger's one of those guys that will never be huge in a place like WWE were ring skill & technical prowess are not a high priority.
I've talked to multiple people on different sites/threads/forums and many have said he would have been better off working for a Japanese promotion. I don't know if that's true or not, though, because I'm not sure what Japanese promotions look for in talent.

Y'know, I get he's never gonna be big which is fine with me, but it's the fact that it seems like after the RAs his only purpose will be jobbing and it's annoying as heck.
I don't think so. This is the only time Swagger will be cheered in his career so he might as well enjoy it while it lasts.

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It's not him being cheered, save for the Royal Rumble, it's Cesaro mainly. Curious to see if people will still chant "We the People" when he's on his own or not.
 

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No, this is the best thing for the both of them. No matter how you slice it (and I'm a HUGE fan) Swagger was messing up a bit when he got his HUGE push for his career. he got the DUI, and he accidentally kicked Ziggler in the front of his face with the end of his boot and caused WWE to lose out on a classic for ER.

For Cesaro and Swagger as a team have probably had the greatest IN ring year in 2013. Both wrestle better matches solo, but both have helped each other a lot this year, Cesaro more so because he's really getting over.
 

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I still think Swagger has potential to be way further up the card. Unfortunately for him I don't book WWE, so honestly he's probably better off in the RA than being in the position of someone like Ziggler or Del Rio right now.
 

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No, this is the best thing for the both of them. No matter how you slice it (and I'm a HUGE fan) Swagger was messing up a bit when he got his HUGE push for his career. he got the DUI, and he accidentally kicked Ziggler in the front of his face with the end of his boot and caused WWE to lose out on a classic for ER.

For Cesaro and Swagger as a team have probably had the greatest IN ring year in 2013. Both wrestle better matches solo, but both have helped each other a lot this year, Cesaro more so because he's really getting over.
I'm not doubting that they've certainly done the best, if not better, with their tag team than anyone expected. Swagger's gimmick helped Cesaro to actually matter immensely, and Cesaro has helped said gimmick get over with the crowd.

I'm thinking of more in the sense of the long run if this team will hurt Swagger's career or not. I should've been more specific, tbh.
 

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Nope, it was actually one of the best things for Swagger, it kept him from being irrelevant. It is just a shame that the RAs never got the tag team titles.
You hate Swagger so I assume you'd be just as content with Cesaro getting a bigger single's title once they disband.

Let's be real here, majority of people don't give a damn about the Real Americans, they like Cesaro's swing and Zeb's mic skills.
 

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You hate Swagger so I assume you'd be just as content with Cesaro getting a bigger single's title once they disband.

Let's be real here, majority of people don't give a damn about the Real Americans, they like Cesaro's swing and Zeb's mic skills.
That does leave one to worry about what will happen to Swagger once the RAs disband and they decide not to pair him with Zeb.
 

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That does leave one to worry about what will happen to Swagger once the RAs disband and they decide not to pair him with Zeb.
He's getting buried after they disband either way, so he'll end up a heel Ryder or on the same level as someone like Sandow is, I'd imagine. Lol, still don't get why you care.
 
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