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Him saying 'what side is he on' must have given it away to a lot of 'smart' viewers at the time.
What do you think?
What do you think?
Was Hogans heel turn ruined by the commentator?
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People have already said that very few actually knew of Hogan's turn and the commentators were not among those. Heenan was just purely second guessing.
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Heenan had been bad mouthing for years, fans probably didn't take notice of him.
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How can you ask if it was ruined when it's 16 years later and we know the results? NWO angle was huge and made a monster of WCW. Yes they fucked it up eventually but that was down the road. Wasn't ruined at all, duh.
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No, it wasn't ruined at all. Hogan had been a pure-beyond-pure babyface for 12 years...no one saw it coming.
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Nah it didn't spoil it, Bobby Heenan ragged on Hulk Hogan for all of his career so it seemed to fit. In hindsight it was a poor choice of words for Heenan and maybe he should have just stayed shtum so that he didn't take away from it on the re-watch but at the time, I'm sure nobody really picked up on it until after the event.
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Heenan didnt ruin it. It was his character as commentator to hate Hogan.
Hogan was A SUPERFACE. Hogan waslike JESUS and the ultimate good guy. There had never been anything like "I like heels, or anti-heros" or the attitude era before this. This just chocked everyone, and the wrestling world just changed forever after this.
So people not understand Heenan at all. He always hated Hogan so him asking "who's side is he on" is right in line with Heenen. Might seem like "giving it away" now, but then it wasn't. People who were watching knew Heenan hated Hogan. Best heel turn ever.
Hogan was A SUPERFACE. Hogan waslike JESUS and the ultimate good guy. There had never been anything like "I like heels, or anti-heros" or the attitude era before this. This just chocked everyone, and the wrestling world just changed forever after this.
So people not understand Heenan at all. He always hated Hogan so him asking "who's side is he on" is right in line with Heenen. Might seem like "giving it away" now, but then it wasn't. People who were watching knew Heenan hated Hogan. Best heel turn ever.
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Video? I didn't watch back in those times.
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It definitely didn't ruin it considering it was one of the biggest and most successful things that happened in wrestling of the entire decade, but watching it back, yeah Heenan's commentary annoys me. But then again, Heenan annoyed me frequently on commentary. Never understood all the love for the guy's shit talking frankly. He was an excellent manager though.
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It's easy to think that if you've only watched the clip in hindsight, and know Bobby Heenan only as the commentator in the Hogan heel turn video.
But it would have been odd if Heenan didn't question Hulk's integrity. He'd been doing it for pretty much ever.
But it would have been odd if Heenan didn't question Hulk's integrity. He'd been doing it for pretty much ever.
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I think it sort of did. Hogan was so babyface that even Heenan shouldn't have questioned it. In doing so he planted the seed in the minds of folks. Now the live audience wouldn't have heard the commentary the the arena reax was "pure"...
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No, Heenan was always anti-Hogan on commentary. It wasn't like some face commentator was asking that question. And, besides, Hogan had been a full fledged face for 12 years. No one saw that coming and it would kinda explain the trash being thrown in the ring.
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