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UFC 200 was always going to be big, don’t get me wrong. However when they introduced Brock was going to be fighting my interest went from maybe to must see. So you can understand my shock to see that Brock wasn’t the main event. Perplexed I researched and saw that title fights are always main events in the UFC regardless of the drawing power of certain fighters. One problem; the main event was far inferior to the Lesnar fight.

So what can a promoter do? Well he certainly can’t change the main event to accommodate a part-timer returning for a one-off, get it off my chest match. At the same time the amount of buys this event will generate would certainly help build up the credibility of your champion but how many of those buys get turned off after the Lesnar fight?

Recently WWE golden boy Roman Reigns was suspended for violating the company’s wellness policy resulting in a mandatory 30 day suspension. Off T.V. for 30 days, let him cool off a bit, then bring him back with a shot at redemption. Absolute nonsense, but this is Vince. So coincidently Jon Jones one of the headliners of UFC 200 was popped for a PED violation and pulled from the card.

As a WWE fan the UFC to me is fun but the grabbing and grunting and holding and twisting is a receipt for sheer boredom. So their champ Daniel Cormier really isn’t going to get me to buy a PPV. I understand he lost to Jones before and this is a grudge match that will likely go 25 minutes and be totally and completely anti-climactic as a fight could possibly be. So what now?

Now Cormier is on the main PPV card but below Lesnar fighting allegedly Anderson Silva in what will be a high profile squash match that will build Cormier’s name way up. As for Jones? His camp claims this failed test is a mistake/false positive and he will back much sooner that the enforced 2 year suspension. He could have gotten hurt and the UFC decided to try a different angle knowing he will be vindicated of his false test. Daniel Cormier gets the more exciting opponent; TBA. The question we need to ask: is UFC that far off from pro wrestling?
 

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UFC 200 was always going to be big, don’t get me wrong. However when they introduced Brock was going to be fighting my interest went from maybe to must see. So you can understand my shock to see that Brock wasn’t the main event. Perplexed I researched and saw that title fights are always main events in the UFC regardless of the drawing power of certain fighters. One problem; the main event was far inferior to the Lesnar fight.

So what can a promoter do? Well he certainly can’t change the main event to accommodate a part-timer returning for a one-off, get it off my chest match. At the same time the amount of buys this event will generate would certainly help build up the credibility of your champion but how many of those buys get turned off after the Lesnar fight?

Recently WWE golden boy Roman Reigns was suspended for violating the company’s wellness policy resulting in a mandatory 30 day suspension. Off T.V. for 30 days, let him cool off a bit, then bring him back with a shot at redemption. Absolute nonsense, but this is Vince. So coincidently Jon Jones one of the headliners of UFC 200 was popped for a PED violation and pulled from the card.

As a WWE fan the UFC to me is fun but the grabbing and grunting and holding and twisting is a receipt for sheer boredom. So their champ Daniel Cormier really isn’t going to get me to buy a PPV. I understand he lost to Jones before and this is a grudge match that will likely go 25 minutes and be totally and completely anti-climactic as a fight could possibly be. So what now?

Now Cormier is on the main PPV card but below Lesnar fighting allegedly Anderson Silva in what will be a high profile squash match that will build Cormier’s name way up. As for Jones? His camp claims this failed test is a mistake/false positive and he will back much sooner that the enforced 2 year suspension. He could have gotten hurt and the UFC decided to try a different angle knowing he will be vindicated of his false test. Daniel Cormier gets the more exciting opponent; TBA. The question we need to ask: is UFC that far off from pro wrestling?
UFC is real WWE is not also with Jones off the card. Buyrates won't be nowhere near as high.
 

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Your logic doesn't make much sense.

Even before the cancellation, Lesnar/Hunt was still co-main over the Tate/Nunes 135 pound title fight, and the Edgar/Aldo 145 pound interim title fight. The UFC, just like the WWE considers itself "entertainment" and can be very flexible if it means increasing viewership.

If the UFC was very strict about how it ordered its cards then Edgar/Aldo would have been co-main. To you Jones/Cormier may have sounded boring but trust me, many fight fans were eagerly looking forward to it. Lesnar may have star power but his fight will not be as competitive as Jones/DC would have been and would not have the same long-term implications.

And why would buys increase by the Jones/DC fight getting cancelled? Even if people turn off the TV after the Lesnar fight they would have already bought the PPV, so the cancellation can only hurt sales. And since in the MMA world Jones/DC was considered a big fight, the sales will be hurt considerably, make no mistake.
 

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I thought this was going to be about how UFC is similar stylistically in how they've built around characters and promos more than the action. Or even the old chestnut about how all the fights are fixed. This? I don't even know where you're headed.
 

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I thought this was going to be about how UFC is similar stylistically in how they've built around characters and promos more than the action. Or even the old chestnut about how all the fights are fixed. This? I don't even know where you're headed.
Have you ever considered creating a thread?
 

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Your logic doesn't make much sense.

Even before the cancellation, Lesnar/Hunt was still co-main over the Tate/Nunes 135 pound title fight, and the Edgar/Aldo 145 pound interim title fight. The UFC, just like the WWE considers itself "entertainment" and can be very flexible if it means increasing viewership.

If the UFC was very strict about how it ordered its cards then Edgar/Aldo would have been co-main. To you Jones/Cormier may have sounded boring but trust me, many fight fans were eagerly looking forward to it. Lesnar may have star power but his fight will not be as competitive as Jones/DC would have been and would not have the same long-term implications.

And why would buys increase by the Jones/DC fight getting cancelled? Even if people turn off the TV after the Lesnar fight they would have already bought the PPV, so the cancellation can only hurt sales. And since in the MMA world Jones/DC was considered a big fight, the sales will be hurt considerably, make no mistake.
I don't watch any UFC, I just wanted to make a fun thread.
 

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I thought this was going to be about how UFC is similar stylistically in how they've built around characters and promos more than the action. Or even the old chestnut about how all the fights are fixed. This? I don't even know where you're headed.
Yeah, if you want to talk about UFC being pro wrestling, dissect Gina Carano's MMA career, not whatever this is.
 

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This thread gave me pancreatic cancer.
A simple; You suck and should drive your mothers Ford Escort that you have to borrow because your Fucking lame duck ex-wife stole you pride and joy Dodge Caravan from you right off a fucking cliff into a pit of flames, would do.:smile2:
 

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Comparing MMA and Pro Wrestling is like comparing the Golden State Warriors with the Harlem Globetrotters.
It's much closer than that

To my knowledge globe trotters don't play in a league and create tournaments where they beat other entertainment teams. Ufc and wrestling ppv formats are pretty identical, bunch of undercard matches leading to mainevent..even ufc have copied WrestleMania axxess

Globetrotters are warriors are not competing with each other for talent..i mean in the days leading up to mania 31 ufc were odds on to sign the mania maineventer and the wwe champion lesnar having signed the number two full time wwe guy of the past 3 years just months prior. Look at all the potential talent lost to pro wrestling last decade because they decided to go train mma instead

Globetrotters and warriors are not competing for same male 18-49 demo to buy their ppvs, attend their live events or watch the tv programming. If ufc puts a rousey or McGregor show on the same weekend as say payback or tlc that would surely have many fans of both brands choosing ufc..similar if ufc put a c level ppv on the weekend of rumble or mania most people will choose the WWE show
 

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It's much closer than that

To my knowledge globe trotters don't play in a league and create tournaments where they beat other entertainment teams. Ufc and wrestling ppv formats are pretty identical, bunch of undercard matches leading to mainevent..even ufc have copied WrestleMania axxess

Globetrotters are warriors are not competing with each other for talent..i mean in the days leading up to mania 31 ufc were odds on to sign the mania maineventer and the wwe champion lesnar having signed the number two full time wwe guy of the past 3 years just months prior. Look at all the potential talent lost to pro wrestling last decade because they decided to go train mma instead

Globetrotters and warriors are not competing for same male 18-49 demo to buy their ppvs, attend their live events or watch the tv programming. If ufc puts a rousey or McGregor show on the same weekend as say payback or tlc that would surely have many fans of both brands choosing ufc..similar if ufc put a c level ppv on the weekend of rumble or mania most people will choose the WWE show
 
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