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Could someone remind how long Vickie's been with Dolph now? to me it feels like 3 fucking years. I mean Jesus isn't they're anyone else that could use her help? god damn break them up already. Also every damn week they have her personally introduce Dolph "Excuse me! i said excuse me!! ladies and gentleman allow me to introduce to you the show off Dolph Ziggler" Its just so fucking obvious its done just to get the crowd booing, i mean do they have any confidence in Dolph what so ever to get heat on his own?

Its like they're fucking scared to let Dolph go on his own, i'm sure he could get heat on his own if they, you know actually let him talk! This act is really stale "ok send Vickie out there to get the crowd booing and make it blatantly obvious its because Dolph can't get a reaction on his own".
 

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Being affiliated with Vickie Guerrero in any way, shape or form doesn't help anybody.
 

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If my memory is correct it will be two years next month.
Damn... and his career has really not been helped at all with Vickie since then he's not gotten any mic time at all, Vickie still does all the work to get the heat while Dolph never gets the chance to grow on the mic.

I think of Vickie like the piped in crowd noises on SD they use her just like they do them to get the audience to react to someone without actually them reacting to them if that makes any sense lol.
 

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i think the only way dolph is ever going to reach his potential main event
status is if breaks away from jack swagger and vickie gurrero.
They need to have vickie spend more time elevating Swagger she has done all she can for Ziggler
 

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I don't dislike Vickie as a character but I do think Dolph needs to break away to do bigger things. I think we'll look back at that pair as sort of like a HBK/Sherri situation. Worked for a whole but eventually the star needs to break away as he continues to build his character and career. She needs to get behind another wrestler or two. I think that'd be good for her as well as whatever wrestler.
 

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I think moving him to RAW in early 2011 was a mistake. Despite being made to look like a loser during his feud with Edge, he & Vickie were white hot at that time.

Ziggler could've had main event programs with Orton & Christian.
 

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Isn't he going to get a bodyguard or something? I'm a Ziggler mark. He reminds me of Mr Perfect.

I wish they'd do something with Ziggler and Swagger though. If they are going to be stuck with Meal Ticket Guerrero then at least have them sure up the tag team division. They are jobbing to all and sundry, why can't they have the tag titles put on them. Have them be super arrogant as former WWE world Heavyweight champions and then have whoever they want to push as the face of the division totally destroy them. Ziggler could then tone down some of the outwardly arrogant parts of his character and could start turning face for a bit. Might freshen up the character.

I actually think that the name doesn't help. Dolph Ziggler just sounds like an out of work porn actor. A split with Vickie could be a catalyst for a name change
 

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They should have split him from her round the time when she was recruiting Swagger ("Him or me.... You don't need anyone else"), then brought in Mason (or other) as an enforcer figure... You could have got a couple of months of fueding out of that and got him nicely over as a face (and made the most of VICKI's heat that way).

Ziggler really isn't notably better of than he was 3+ years ago when he was fueding with Mysterio over the IC title.
 

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Break them up, I want to see what he can do on his own. On a side note, are there any heels in the WWE that receive any 'heat' beside Big Johnny, Vickie and Cole?
 

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He should ditch her, but only after a solid tag team (title) run with Swagger. There isn't anything going on for either in singles, now's the perfect time to properly team up. The growing division needs interesting pairings, ZiggSwagg & The Cougar has the potential to be that goofy little triangle providing the lols yet look legitimate. In general tag teams need more out-ring/mic time to get over with their tandem personalities.
 

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Its funny. On another forum back in late 2010, I complained that Vickie & Dolph were still together and it was annoying, and they all called me a troll and a jerk and said that "They have been arguing on TV lately, so its going to end anyway, so stop your bitching".

Well here we are. Its a year and a half later and they are STILL together.
 
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