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https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/special-reports/florida-prisons/article234673557.html?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR2ZPLAOip9H2XHTpf532u3IDLEu2t855D0HF3As75VAmRYQlbnxdkfo9A8

After beating by guards, Florida woman is a quadriplegic. She’s suing.

In what’s being called one of the worst prison beatings in memory, four male Florida prison guards attacked an inmate suffering from mental illness, slammed her to a concrete floor, elbowed her in the neck, then dragged her “like a rag doll’’ through the facility, taking her outside, away from cameras, then resuming the assault until she was near death, a federal civil rights lawsuit filed Tuesday alleges.

The incident happened Aug. 21 at Lowell Correctional Institution, the largest women’s prison in Florida and the second largest in the nation. The prison, located in Central Florida, south of Orlando, has a long history of human rights violations, some of which are the focus of an ongoing probe by the U.S. Department of Justice.

The latest beating is under investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. None of the officers had been charged or fired as of Tuesday.

The victim, Cheryl Weimar, 51, is hooked to a breathing tube, receiving food through another tube, and is now a quadriplegic, said her lawyer, Ryan Andrews, who filed the lawsuit on her behalf.



In addition to the lawsuit, Andrews intends to seek an emergency order from a judge to allow him to take photographs of Weimar, who remains in the custody of the Florida Department of Corrections, even while hospitalized at Ocala Regional Hospital. FDC has prohibited Andrews or Weimar’s husband from taking photographs of her injuries. Andrews also wants access to the prison video he believes shows what happened.

“It is imperative that the public find out what happened here and that the public have access to the videotapes showing Cheryl beaten to within an inch of her life,’’ Andrews said. “Now a quadriplegic as a result of the beating, Cheryl will never get to walk in her garden and play with her cats, or swim in the ocean, things she once loved, all because she needed help because of her disabilities. What happens behind the walls at Lowell is evil. ’’

Weimar, who had a history of mental illness, also suffered from a hip condition. On Aug. 21, her hip condition flared up, causing her pain, and she complained to the officers that she was unable to clean a toilet. The officers became “angry, aggressive and violent,’’ causing Weimar extreme stress that led her to declare a mental-health emergency, the lawsuit says.

Under prison policy, that should have triggered medical intervention, but the officers instead slammed her to the concrete floor and began beating her, the lawsuit says. One of the officers placed an elbow to the back of her neck, causing her to suffer a broken neck, the suit alleges.

The officers, whose names were not released by the Department of Corrections, then dragged her outside the compound out of the range of cameras and continued to beat her, the suit says.

“She was telling them to please, please help her and so they threw her at a wheelchair to taunt her,’’ Andrews said. “They dragged her around for a while, and really messed her up. They either broke her neck when they slammed her, or what they did after, by dragging her around, caused further trauma to her neck and spine.’’

The suit was also brought by her husband, Karl Weimar, against the four officers, identified as John Does, as well as the state Department of Corrections.

Department of Corrections Secretary Mark Inch said, “We recognize that preliminary reports from this incident are concerning. We’re committed to examining all the details regarding this situation and ensuring appropriate action is taken.”

FDLE is the lead investigative agency, with assistance from the prison agency’s Office of Inspector General.

“They will be conducting a thorough and independent investigation. The officers involved have been reassigned to posts that do not have contact with inmates, pending the outcome of this investigation,’’ Inch said in a statement on Aug. 23.

Weimar was sentenced to six years in prison, entering the system in 2016. Court and police records show she had a long rap sheet, mostly for non-violent crimes, that culminated in her arrest by Hollywood police in February 2015 following a fight in which she slashed her ex-boyfriend with a knife. When police arrived, she resisted arrest by kicking her feet and flailing her arms, leading to an additional charge of resisting arrest with violence.

Her history shows that she has been in and out of trouble since she was young, with arrests ranging from loitering, burglary and theft to prostitution and public drunkenness. At points in her life she was homeless, her records show.

“She basically grew up on the streets, but when she met Karl she gave up that life,’’ Andrews said. “Karl basically saved her life, they had a home and went boating. But she was plagued by her mental and physical disabilities and taken advantage of her whole life.’’

Dignity Florida, a group of formerly incarcerated women and their families, has demanded that the officers be immediately fired.



Michelle Glady, FDC’s spokeswoman, declined to comment on Tuesday.

A series of Miami Herald stories on Lowell in 2015, Beyond Punishment, described cruel conditions, including rats, roaches inadequate healthcare and staffers who force inmates to exchange sex for protection from other officers and to have access to basic necessities, such as sanitary napkins and toilet paper.

Last year, the Justice Department sent a letter to then-Gov. Rick Scott stating that conditions at Lowell were under investigation. That probe, which is ongoing, centered on inmates who had been sexually assaulted by correctional officers. However, former inmates and their families had urged DOJ to expand the investigation to include other misconduct by officers, since the sexual assaults often were tied to physical violence.
The human filth that runs these places are about as bad, if not worse than the inmates incarcerated in them. There isn't a single thing where you can look and not see filth and third world-like conditions rampant in America at this point in time. They're not even allowing her family to take pictures of what she looks like right now.
 

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And they won't let the family gather evidence while the body is warm?

Shit happens way too often and this is a straight cover up.
 

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Big Bossman would have never done shit like this

He was tough but fair and not an animal

Well, except in the case of Al Snow
 

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Re: Savagely Beaten by Guards: Florida Woman paralyzed and struggling for life

And they won't let the family gather evidence while the body is warm?

Shit happens way too often and this is a straight cover up.
. I've followed a few prison reformists on Twitter and that's the only way I get news like this. Saw another picture of a man who was completely bloodied, shared by his lawyer. No one picked up the story.

Miami Herald is probably the biggest newspaper I've seen report on the criminal acts of the prison system here.

Note that the actual event happened on Aug 21. It took weeks to get the news to spread.
 

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just say "death to america" and be done with it reaper... jeez :lol
 

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Who in the hell would ever want to be a prison guard? I think they'd be more fucked in the head than cops.
I think you just answered your own question there.
 

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WELCOME TO MURICA

LAND OF THE FREE

HOME OF THE BRAVE

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Re: Savagely Beaten by Guards: Florida Woman paralyzed and struggling for life

just say "death to america" and be done with it reaper... jeez :lol
I'm sorry that Americans like you would rather focus on people like me who can see this country for the shithole it is in some parts than have no empathy for a woman who was nearly beaten to death and left paralysed in this shithole.
 

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Prison Guards have been doing this stuff for a while.

They're failed cops so this is the next best thing. It's not good for the prisoners though as they people tend to be corrupt and angry.

There's so much wrong with Prison Guards that I could talk about it for several pages, from violence to ensuring violence gets done because they ignore prisoners in danger.

Prison reform is much needed.
 

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I'm sorry that Americans like you would rather focus on people like me who can see this country for the shithole it is in some parts than have no empathy for a woman who was nearly beaten to death and left paralysed in this shithole.

I'm much more of an American than a low empathy individual like you because I actually care about spreading awareness about the crimes happening in this country that can be prevented if we rise up to demand change.
cops commit a fraction of all the crimes. as we speak there are literally thousands of crimes happening and it's the police who will be tasked with responding to them.

no one takes joy in hearing about an innocent person being hurt or killed so i don't know what you're trying to insinuate. you aren't special. meanwhile 8 people were needlessly shot and killed again over labor day weekend in chicago and there wasn't a single peep from you. how come you weren't looking to spread awareness or rise up and demand change? where was your superior empathy then? this woman's life is more important?

could it be that you're motivated by your hatred of cops and not by any semblance of empathy? :jericho2
 

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Shit like this always makes me think of the Stanford Prison Experiment. A must read if you don't know about it.

https://www.psychologistworld.com/influence-personality/stanford-prison-experiment

Subjects were randomly assigned to play the role of "prisoner" or "guard". Those assigned to play the role of guard were given sticks and sunglasses; those assigned to play the prisoner role were arrested by the Palo Alto police department, deloused, forced to wear chains and prison garments, and transported to the basement of the Stanford psychology department, which had been converted into a makeshift jail.

Several of the guards became progressively more sadistic - particularly at night when they thought the cameras were off, despite being picked by chance out of the same pool as the prisoners.

The experiment very quickly got out of hand. A riot broke out on day two. One prisoner developed a psychosomatic rash all over his body upon finding out that his "parole" had been turned down. After only 6 days (of a planned two weeks), the experiment was shut down, for fear that one of the prisoners would be seriously hurt.

Although the intent of the experiment was to examine captivity, its result has been used to demonstrate the impressionability and obedience of people when provided with a legitimizing ideology and social and institutional support. It is also used to illustrate cognitive dissonance theory and the power of seniority/authority.
 

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Re: Savagely Beaten by Guards: Florida Woman paralyzed and struggling for life

cops commit a fraction of all the crimes. as we speak there are literally thousands of crimes happening and it's the police who will be tasked with responding to them.

no one takes joy in hearing about an innocent person being hurt or killed so i don't know what you're trying to insinuate. you aren't special. meanwhile 8 people were needlessly shot and killed again over labor day weekend in chicago and there wasn't a single peep from you. how come you weren't looking to spread awareness or rise up and demand change? where was your superior empathy then? this woman's life is more important?

could it be that you're motivated by your hatred of cops and not by any semblance of empathy? :jericho2
You only bring up Chicago for the race narrative. While genuine people actually care about chicago and the situation there, we know why the usual suspects like you in particular bring it up. You don't care actually care about people in Chicago either just as little as you care about this woman being brutalized by prison guards. I know all about the situation in Chicago, what has caused it, what kind of corrupt officials and police as well as capitalist systems that have created the situation in Chicago.

But I would be very surprised that in any discussion about Chicago you'd be able to go beyond "but black people" cuz based on your post history that's all you're capable of. Even in the response to me, you took a pot shot at what terrorist Muslims say "death to the states" because you are a closet racist because you have spent more time honing your ability to say racist things without being flat out called one than spent time reflecting on things that are genuinely wrong in this country.

Now go and get butthurt over being called a racist because while you betray what you really feel about others, you also like to pretend that you have no racist views at all. Or pretend that the word "racist" has no "meaning left" which has also become pretty much the hallmark of closet racists.

It's your whataboutist bullshit designed to detract and deflect in everyone else's threads that expose your lack of empathy .. and you don't just do it my threads. You do it in everyone's thread because this is your pathetic little schtick. You cannot accept the fact that someone doesn't bend the knee to this country's flag.

Now go and ceate that "black people commit more crime" thread that you are now so deperate to create because my very existence on this forum triggers you and a bunch of other people since clearly my threads generate conversation specific to a particular topic and that makes you *very* uncomfortable which is why you need to deflect, distract and try to change the topic.

The topic at hand here is prison reform and prison violence. You don't give a fuck about that and that's more than obvious because you'd rather bicker about everything else rather than accept that this country is partly a shithole. And me calling it a shithole (even some parts of it) is what really bothers you rather than the fact that there are parts of this country that are a shithole.
 

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Re: Savagely Beaten by Guards: Florida Woman paralyzed and struggling for life

okay reaper go ahead and give me a list of current countries that AREN'T shitholes:

GO
 

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This whole concept of For-Profit-Prisons really needs to die out ASAP.

Seriously.

This sort of shit is goddamn tragic, and it's not like she was some violent, murderous criminal with no empathy.
 

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This whole concept of For-Profit-Prisons really needs to die out ASAP.

Seriously.

This sort of shit is goddamn tragic, and it's not like she was some violent, murderous criminal with no empathy.
all prisons are for profit.

publically funded prisons also need to operate a profit, which is why arrest quotas exist.
 

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Re: Savagely Beaten by Guards: Florida Woman paralyzed and struggling for life

This whole concept of For-Profit-Prisons really needs to die out ASAP.

Seriously.

This sort of shit is goddamn tragic, and it's not like she was some violent, murderous criminal with no empathy.
It's all in the hiring practices ... We see this in the cops as well that it's low IQ individuals (as confirmed by courts as well) that go into police-work ... and it's also said (not sure how true that is) that it's failed cops (or people who couldn't even become cops) that end up as security and prison guards.

They're not real cops ... But they're involved in "policing" at prisons. How did this even happen. (this is rhetorical tbh).

Also, no mainstream media coverage.

Why would there be. Most of the people who own the media also have some sort of financial stake in these private prisons.
 

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Shit like this always makes me think of the Stanford Prison Experiment. A must read if you don't know about it.

https://www.psychologistworld.com/influence-personality/stanford-prison-experiment
Power over others with no power tends to make people sadistic. It doesn't even have to be prison based it can be perceived power over those who are perceived powerless or not supposed to fight back. You can see this behavior form in the work place, online, playground, relationships, church and among activists.

I imagine in a scenario like prison the behavior would increase ten fold because the power is both legitimate in all aspects.
 

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Re: Savagely Beaten by Guards: Florida Woman paralyzed and struggling for life

all prisons are for profit.

publically funded prisons also need to operate a profit, which is why arrest quotas exist.
Isn't there a reason though that we don't have really any sort of decent rehabilitation system for people being released from our prisons?

The system thrives on having people who go to prison come back after doing something else and being unable to readjust back to normal life. And a decent chunk of these aren't even violent crimes, more just drug dealing or other small misdemeanours.

It seems like a flawed way of doing things if you need to arrest a specific amount of people to meet profit margins. It's like the existence of speed traps arresting people going 5mph over the speed limit.
 
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