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Tory leadership contest: 10 rivals face first ballot of MPs

Tory MPs have voted in the first round of the contest to select a new party leader and the next prime minister.

A secret ballot was held in the House of Commons, with a result expected some time after 13:00 BST.

Outgoing leader Theresa May refused to say which of the 10 contenders she had voted for, telling reporters: "That's none of your business."

Any candidate who fails to secure at least 17 MPs' votes will be eliminated from the contest.

Further ballots will be held next week, with the two most popular MPs moving to a run-off of Tory party members.

The winner of the contest to succeed Mrs May is expected to be announced in the week of 22 July.

Esther McVey was the first candidate to cast her vote and Boris Johnson the last.

Mr Johnson - who launched his leadership campaign on Wednesday - is regarded as the frontrunner in the contest, with many more public endorsements from MPs than any of his rivals.

In his pitch to MPs, the former foreign secretary pledged to take the UK out of the EU by the end of October. He gave little detail of his plan but stressed it was not his aim to leave without a deal.

He also defended what he called his straight-talking style, saying the public wanted to hear what politicians genuinely thought. But he dodged questions on whether he had ever taken cocaine.

One rival, Home Secretary Sajid Javid, described Mr Johnson as "yesterday's news".

"We need tomorrow's leader, today," he said. "Not the same old insiders with the same old school ties - but a new generation, with a new agenda."

Mr Javid told BBC Radio 4's Today programme he wanted to leave the EU with a deal, but would choose no deal over no Brexit.

He said there needed to be changes to the controversial Irish backstop - designed to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland - of either a time limit "or some proper exit clause", and UK government should offer to pay for any "alternative arrangements" for the border.

Mr Javid, Environment Secretary Michael Gove, former Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab and Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt have all received enough public endorsements to suggest they will make it through to the next round.

The remaining five candidates - Matt Hancock, Rory Stewart, Andrea Leadsom, Mark Harper and Ms McVey - are hoping to make it through and to build momentum.
 

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Sajid is who I'll vote for.

He seems a true Conservative - genuine in his desire to build solid foundations for people to take control of their own destiny. He has that passion for social justice which is clear (his background helps solidify this opinion), and is highly intelligent in an economic sense.

Probably will be Boris, but I think Conservatism as an ideology has lost its way (the right of the vocal far left and their horse shit narrative has damaged it too) - so guys like Sajid, even Raab can help restore the key principles IMO. Tories need to remind the nation that they don't want to control our lives the way Socialism would, they want to give us a platform for people to succeed, if they work for it.
 

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Well this is the Tories we're talking about. So naturally they will select the absolute worst person for the job because that's all they ever do. Every decision they make is always the worst possible decision.

So I'm fully expecting Boris Johnson.
 

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Tory leadership contest: Boris Johnson tops first ballot

Boris Johnson has secured the highest number of votes in the first ballot to select the Conservative party leader and next prime minister.

Three contenders - Mark Harper, Andrea Leadsom and Esther McVey - have been knocked out, in the secret ballot held in the House of Commons.

Mr Johnson received 114 votes, Jeremy Hunt was second with 43, and Michael Gove third with 37 votes.

Seven candidates progress to the next round of voting next week.

The two most popular MPs will be put to Tory party members in a final vote later this month.

The winner of the contest to succeed Theresa May is expected to be announced in the week of 22 July.
Well Boris is off to a good start, I fully expect McVey, Leadsom and their supporters to now back Boris, could also possibly go to Gove but he's probably lost some of the brexit vote after going for the more moderate approach to brexit.
 

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I'm fairly certain it'll be Johnson. But he did really make an ass of himself with his Brexit comments, though. But hey, it's a country that chooses the Brexit for themselves and slowly realizes they don't want that and now throw a tantrum...
 

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I'm fairly certain it'll be Johnson. But he did really make an ass of himself with his Brexit comments, though. But hey, it's a country that chooses the Brexit for themselves and slowly realizes they don't want that and now throw a tantrum...
Don't belive everything you read son, the country knew what we were voting for its been miss handled into a collosal fuck up.

The government left and right didn't want out, the people did, so they fuck it up so badly to make it look like a bad decision.
 

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Don't belive everything you read son, the country knew what we were voting for its been miss handled into a collosal fuck up.

The government left and right didn't want out, the people did, so they fuck it up so badly to make it look like a bad decision.
So did you just vote to leave on WTO terms? If so what is the potential consequence of that? How do you manage the Irish border issue?

You people seem to have this idea that this was going to be a piece of cake. 40years of legislation and economic ties dealt with in a two year period. Either you are 1) very naïve 2) completely ignorant. Don't listen to all the spin and bullshit spouted by Rees Mogg and Co who will benefit from an economic downturn. Hell, the bloke moved his assets to Ireland! I'd also stop reading the Daily Mail...son.
 

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So did you just vote to leave on WTO terms? If so what is the potential consequence of that? How do you manage the Irish border issue?

You people seem to have this idea that this was going to be a piece of cake. 40years of legislation and economic ties dealt with in a two year period. Either you are 1) very naïve 2) completely ignorant. Don't listen to all the spin and bullshit spouted by Rees Mogg and Co who will benefit from an economic downturn. Hell, the bloke moved his assets to Ireland! I'd also stop reading the Daily Mail...son.
Son I don't read gossip rags. I listen to both sides left and right and made up my own mind like many many people did.

You are the one taring all leave voters with the neanderthal brush.

As I said the Government, right and left didn't want to leave the EU. So of course they aren't going to take negotiations seriously. Anyone with half a brain could see that.

The key issue was immigration and/or free movement. The government wanted this the people didn't. Ask any voter and this was the issue, controlling OUR borders.

The issue with Ireland border? Well, I would give them a choice like Scotland had and like the Falklands had. In or out.
 

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Who will be he UK's next Prime Minister?

Well it's being decided entirely by Tory MPs an Tory members so my money is on: an absolutely fucking shameful cunt that'll make me even more embarrassed of being from this stupid fucking country than I already am.

Honestly if I wasn't so scared of heights I'd have jumped off a fucking bridge by now.
 

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Boris is the only choice..

None of these fucks will make anything better, (and Boris is probably the least sensible out of all of them) but at least with BOJO at the helm there will be lolz n shit.
 

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Yeah, Boris is going to boost meme culture just like Trump does, the others are all objectively as bad but none are as fucking riduclous as that buffoon.

IDGAF who gets in out of these odious cunts tbh, this is the best our country has to offer?

If we had a David Miliband in charge Labour would absolutely destroy this Troy party, it would be a massacre, instead we're stuck with Corbyn, who managed to be even worse than Red Ed.
 

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If we had a David Miliband in charge Labour would absolutely destroy this Troy party, it would be a massacre, instead we're stuck with Corbyn, who managed to be even worse than Red Ed.


In an alternate universe identical to our own apart from Ed Miliband’s ability to eat a bacon sandwich, everything is going just fine thank you very much.

UK resident Simon Williams said that life in the UK is “OK I guess”, but he can’t understand why everything has gone so terribly wrong in our universe.

He explained, “It seems we’re exactly the same right up until the 2015 election. Here, after securing a stunning victory, Miliband set about implementing his manifesto pledges, and though his parliamentary majority isn’t huge at 25, he has had plenty of cross-party support for a number of initiatives.

“The NHS has more money – thought it could obviously use more – and the home building programme they implemented has made it a lot more affordable for first-time buyers.

“His immigration controls even got Tory support. Did you know we were able to deport EU nationals if they didn’t find work here? Apparently, the free movement thing was only if you come here to work, so if you’re not working, you can be made to leave. No, we didn’t know that either, but we apparently can, and Ed did – a move which seemed to take the wind out of the sails of the lot of the extreme right-wingers who kept going on about the EU and immigrants. It’s a lot easier to push those fanatics aside when the only EU migrants here are gainfully employed and demonstrably contributing to society – especially when unemployment is so low and the new higher minimum wage has helped living standards.

“Nigel Farage? Oh, he was the UKIP bloke, right? Yeah, we don’t hear much from him these days, not since that near-death auto-asphyxiation incident was caught on camera. I mean, who has a danger wank in the conference room of the EU’s Strasbourg offices?

“David Cameron hung around for a couple of months, then quit – it seems he doesn’t have much of a stomach for a fight – and then Boris took over. Right up until the scandal about his affair. He probably had it in your universe as well; you just don’t know about it – yet. It’s Theresa May now. Oh, you too? Yes, she’s shit here as well.

“Jacob Rees-Mogg? Never heard of him. Sorry.

“The global economy is a little sluggish, but the US is doing pretty well, and Hilary Clinton seems to have calmed things down in the middle east while keeping the Russians at bay. Putin seems very cross all of the time, almost like he’s wasted a lot of money recently. No, I’ve no idea either.

“A Brexit? No. What’s that then?”
https://newsthump.com/2019/02/08/everything-going-swimmingly-in-alternate-universe-where-ed-miliband-competently-eats-bacon-sandwiches/

At this rate Labour might as well bring back Ed Miliband as Labour leader with the campaign slogan "Chaos with Boris or Chaos with Ed Miliband!"
 

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Labour has not had a competent leader since Blair. As much as I despise that war mongering cunt, the guy who knew how to campaign, how to handle questioning and how to lead.

Brown was useless, Ed Miliband was weak and Corbyn is fucking crazy. No wonder Labour have not been able to take power.

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I would be shocked if Boris doesn't win the leadership contest.
 

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Its quite telling how bad labour are fucking up when they can't even look good in the middle of this conservative chaos.
 

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I swear, British politics is actually surreal right now. On the one side there's the Tories and whatever the fuck the Maybot was doing for the last couple years. Now it's Bullingdon Boy Boris de Pfeffel Johnson next up to the Brexit sacrificial altar with Jeremy Cunt waiting in the wings for his turn, all still held hostage by a minority group in their own party and fighting themselves more than their opposition. And on the opposing side we have Labour with that lunatic Corbyn and a small group of Brexiters up against almost the entire rest of the party who are freaking out because they lost HUGE numbers to the pro-Remain parties in the EU parliamentary elections. All whilst fighting themselves, the current figureheads continuously campaign about renegotiating the Brexit deal (both sides) all whilst the EU have unequivocally stated that there are no more negotiations. And still nobody's ACTUALLY doing anything to sort out the Brexit fiasco in a way that doesn't just arse fuck us and push us into the worst sort of disaster capitalism so Mogg and his cronies can get ever wealthier at our expense. Brilliant.
 

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If I were any of the candidates I would seriously consider waiting until this turd show of Brexit is tied up. Why put yourself in this poisoned chalice of a job? Wait until its out of the way then swoop in and pick up the left overs.
 

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actually not even bothered about who wins. every single 'candidate' in the running is a cunt

everything is fucked either way unless you're worth zillions

corbyn should probably resign out of embarrassment - imagine being unable to beat the maybot 1vs1 in a field of wheat, then still being unable to do any damage against this absolute shambles of a tory party

this is why labour are in ruins in every part of the uk (minus wales)
 
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