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Does anyone else want to argue with me in saying that the brand split is a joke and should end now since the man himself doesn't know what he wants to do with brand?
I do. If everything being said here is true now, imagine how much worse things are going to be if it ends?

That and because Fox wants it.
 

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I do. If everything being said here is true now, imagine how much worse things are going to be if it ends?

That and because Fox wants it.
We all can blame Vince McMahon who didn't take the whole Brand Split serious. If he did then we would still have General Managers, a serious Brand Shake up and he actually treat both brands different from the others, have a different design for the Raw/SD brands.
 

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We all can blame Vince McMahon who didn't take the whole Brand Split serious. If he did then we would still have General Managers, a serious Brand Shake up and he actually treat both brands different from the others, have a different design for the Raw/SD brands.
Honestly, my big complaint is getting rid of the single brand PPV's. I said it before and I'll say it again, that was the worst thing he could have possibly did to his product and it's showing. People aren't getting proper exposure. Feuds aren't being fleshed out as much. Lower card has basically become non existent. I just can't for the life of me understand why he would think this is a good idea. With the way both rosters were last year, I can't help but think that they would have had a much easier time putting on better PPV's without the issue of repetitive feuds.
 

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He’s majority owner so no.


Jesus Christ. This blew me away. We all laugh and joke on here about the old man but good lord. I can’t believe he’s this not in tune with the world around him. The fact Shane and Steph have even approached him and he won’t budge is mind boggling. It’s almost as if he wants to take the company to the grave with him.


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I know this would never happen but what if...

All the wrestlers, writers, board of directors, FOX, anyone else working for the company & even his family who are unhappy said u need to retire & if u don't we're all going on strike or refusing to do what u say?
 

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Anyone but Triple H and Stephanie.
Why?

Hasn't HHH done a great job in NXT?

I'm not very familiar with Stephanie's work but most of her work is in the background so it's hard to judge. People are too influenced by her on-screen character, we don't really know what she's like. She got majorly behind the women's movement and they just main evented Mania on merit - she might be better than we think.
 

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Honestly, my big complaint is getting rid of the single brand PPV's. I said it before and I'll say it again, that was the worst thing he could have possibly did to his product and it's showing. People aren't getting proper exposure. Feuds aren't being fleshed out as much. Lower card has basically become non existent. I just can't for the life of me understand why he would think this is a good idea. With the way both rosters were last year, I can't help but think that they would have had a much easier time putting on better PPV's without the issue of repetitive feuds.
That was my second issue here. I knew the minute that they got rid of the individual brand pay per views. One for Raw and the other for SD, was the moment it went downhill. Then getting rid of GM's cause the damage. Then the 6 call up's from last December without a plan. 2 months later 4 more call up's but two stayed in NXT while the other two stayed without a plan. Now we had the shake up which was a waste. This is why I have been complaining because Vince doesn't know what he is doing.
 

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vince is basically a drunk captain on plane who has locked himself in the cockpit with his yes men. That has been obvious for years. He does what he wants even if everyone else is saying or thinking otherwise.
 
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I don't buy the idea of Trips being a savior, he is an egomaniac just like Vince.
if thats case then how come nxt is much easier to watch and you don't get bored after 3 mins? we know exactly what the story line is in nxt, they have actual build up while on the main shows, 50 / 50 booking after 19th time they faced each other, ah lets have a iron man match then the next night on raw, lets have them team up.
 

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Suddenly it makes sense to me how a fucking house show had better/more logical booked show from start to finish than their actual shows...I would bet a lot Vince don't book those, it didn't even feel like WWE booking wise
 

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https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/triple-h-is-reportedly-the-most-frustrated-person-in-wwe/

Some of the usual stories (and some new ones) were confirmed on Wade Keller’s Pro Wrestling Post-Show when a close friend of three WWE writers called into his show after Monday Night Raw. It’s very clear that the buck stops with Vince McMahon and it doesn’t look like real change is coming anytime soon.

Here are things said on the podcast by the close friend of three current WWE writers:

– WWE’s problems are not the fault of the writers. “No one should rip on WWE creative. They have some of the most brilliant, unbelievable cool ideas that I’ve ever heard…” He was told, “We’re writing for an audience of one and never forget that [and if not] you’re out of here.”

– “The most frustrated person in the back every single night is Triple H. He’ll always take, especially the NXT guys, under his wing. It looks like he’s consoling them. It looks so much like he was the most frustrated person in the building every single night.”

– The Wild Card Rule was not in the script on the morning of the show.

– The Superstar Shake-Up changed week to week and it didn’t pan out how it was originally laid out months prior. Everything changed because Vince just decided to change it.

– He talked about the turnover with so many backstage people quitting or being fired.

– SmackDown and Raw writing teams are the same for both shows. They used to be separate but that changed recently after the Shake-Up.

– The caller emphasized that the problems in WWE are not creative’s fault and Vince McMahon is the one person who deserves the blame.

– Vince wants suggestions from everyone but it never gets on TV. 99 out of 100 times you can come up with an idea for Vince and it won’t be used.

– The entire creative team has pitched to have Raw and SmackDown look completely different with different production, a different way of shooting things, etc. and McMahon shoots it down.

– Vince McMahon doesn’t keep track of what is going on with NXT. He “maybe” watches Takeover shows.

– The writers say he just watches WWE and works out and is not aware of things going on in the real world.

– The writers say there is no chance of Vince stepping down.

– Dana Brooke has been the hardest worker for the last 3 years. She goes to the Performance Center, she shows up early and helps set up the ring and she gets in the ring so she can get better. Creative will pitch something for her and she gets nothing up until recently with MITB.

– The caller offered to tell Wade Keller off the air of some cool storylines that were pitched and never used.

– The writer he talked to said, “we’re all working for Dana Warrior and it’s really awkward.”

– The WWE-Fox contract prohibits Fox from moving the show to FS1 even if the ratings drop.

– One writer is very close to quitting because he is so “unbelievably unhappy” and many of the writers are paranoid and think they are close to being fired.

– “It’s such a toxic atmosphere and it’s all because of one person.”

– When Neville walked out, there was a crazy shouting match and he flipped out on Vince McMahon and that was the last time they saw him. The writers praised Neville for being so easy to work with.

– Ideas never pan out as originally planned because writers will come up with stuff and then Vince loses interest after a week or two. He used Mojo Rawley as an example.

– The money is good and it’s a dream job for many writers but it gets frustrating. The talent is very unhappy and people are trying to get out of their contracts.

– The writers say Bruce Prichard is a pleasure to work with. “He’s a funny guy and a pleasure to work with but he’s not getting through to Vince either.”

– Shane McMahon, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon have tried to talk to Vince but it hasn’t worked.

– The people on the writing staff listens to podcasts and they hear fans bashing them. “It breaks their heart,” he said.

– Vince is in the announcer’s ear “to a sentence” and he gets on them for tiny mistakes.

– On Sami Zayn: “That’s not Sami Zayn’s promos. That’s Vince McMahon talking through Sami Zayn.”

– There are 37 total writers and they are now working on both shows.

– NBCUniversal and FOX both want the top stars.

– Andrade went into Vince’s office and asked for a legit push. Vince looked at him and said, “learn some English and get back to me.” Andrade spoke some English last week and he’s been taking English lessons.

– The Firefly Fun House stuff is all Bray Wyatt’s idea. Bray is described is an “absolute genius” and he helps other wrestlers with their promos. “He’s one of the best guys in the locker room.”

– The writers he talked to say they loved when there was a real brand split.

– He mentioned The Revival/Usos storyline being done because Vince just thinks its funny.

– Some of the writers think Road Dogg will eventually end up in AEW. (Note: Road Dogg is currently on hiatus and there’s no word on when he will be back or what he would be doing if he returns).
Man I don't get how all this shit leaks, and then you guys buy everything the dirt sheek marks say. A few days ago it was "Triple H was burying Harper," and you guys shat on that, now you guys have sympathy for Triple H in his situation. The story is fickle as fuck.
 

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Wow more annonymous blasting to Vince, and predicting doom to WWE.
Such a coincidence this occurs days before the first PPV of a new promotion...:hmmm
 

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If I was Triple H I would be losing my mind right about now too. He set up the perfect system for Vince to succeed, he creates the stars for Vince and all Vince has to do is book them right and he has no clue what he is doing. It is incredibly depressing to think that there is going to be an entire decade of incredibly talented people that are going to be completely wasted just because an old man doesn't want to step down and let the next generation take over.
It's why I posted the "What if HHH leaves WWE" post last weekend. While I could almost never see him quitting, I could see a highly irate Vince demoting or even dismissing him one day. Particularly if he gets word of the passive/aggressive likes/dislikes that Levesque has been doing on Twitter.
 

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https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/triple-h-is-reportedly-the-most-frustrated-person-in-wwe/

Some of the usual stories (and some new ones) were confirmed on Wade Keller’s Pro Wrestling Post-Show when a close friend of three WWE writers called into his show after Monday Night Raw. It’s very clear that the buck stops with Vince McMahon and it doesn’t look like real change is coming anytime soon.

Here are things said on the podcast by the close friend of three current WWE writers:

– WWE’s problems are not the fault of the writers. “No one should rip on WWE creative. They have some of the most brilliant, unbelievable cool ideas that I’ve ever heard…” He was told, “We’re writing for an audience of one and never forget that [and if not] you’re out of here.”

– “The most frustrated person in the back every single night is Triple H. He’ll always take, especially the NXT guys, under his wing. It looks like he’s consoling them. It looks so much like he was the most frustrated person in the building every single night.”

– The Wild Card Rule was not in the script on the morning of the show.

– The Superstar Shake-Up changed week to week and it didn’t pan out how it was originally laid out months prior. Everything changed because Vince just decided to change it.

– He talked about the turnover with so many backstage people quitting or being fired.

– SmackDown and Raw writing teams are the same for both shows. They used to be separate but that changed recently after the Shake-Up.

– The caller emphasized that the problems in WWE are not creative’s fault and Vince McMahon is the one person who deserves the blame.

– Vince wants suggestions from everyone but it never gets on TV. 99 out of 100 times you can come up with an idea for Vince and it won’t be used.

The entire creative team has pitched to have Raw and SmackDown look completely different with different production, a different way of shooting things, etc. and McMahon shoots it down.

– Vince McMahon doesn’t keep track of what is going on with NXT. He “maybe” watches Takeover shows.

– The writers say he just watches WWE and works out and is not aware of things going on in the real world.

– The writers say there is no chance of Vince stepping down.

– Dana Brooke has been the hardest worker for the last 3 years. She goes to the Performance Center, she shows up early and helps set up the ring and she gets in the ring so she can get better. Creative will pitch something for her and she gets nothing up until recently with MITB.

– The caller offered to tell Wade Keller off the air of some cool storylines that were pitched and never used.

– The writer he talked to said, “we’re all working for Dana Warrior and it’s really awkward.”

– The WWE-Fox contract prohibits Fox from moving the show to FS1 even if the ratings drop.

– One writer is very close to quitting because he is so “unbelievably unhappy” and many of the writers are paranoid and think they are close to being fired.

– “It’s such a toxic atmosphere and it’s all because of one person.”

– When Neville walked out, there was a crazy shouting match and he flipped out on Vince McMahon and that was the last time they saw him. The writers praised Neville for being so easy to work with.

– Ideas never pan out as originally planned because writers will come up with stuff and then Vince loses interest after a week or two. He used Mojo Rawley as an example.

– The money is good and it’s a dream job for many writers but it gets frustrating. The talent is very unhappy and people are trying to get out of their contracts.

– The writers say Bruce Prichard is a pleasure to work with. “He’s a funny guy and a pleasure to work with but he’s not getting through to Vince either.”

– Shane McMahon, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon have tried to talk to Vince but it hasn’t worked.

– The people on the writing staff listens to podcasts and they hear fans bashing them. “It breaks their heart,” he said.

– Vince is in the announcer’s ear “to a sentence” and he gets on them for tiny mistakes.

– On Sami Zayn: “That’s not Sami Zayn’s promos. That’s Vince McMahon talking through Sami Zayn.”

– There are 37 total writers and they are now working on both shows.

– NBCUniversal and FOX both want the top stars.

– Andrade went into Vince’s office and asked for a legit push. Vince looked at him and said, “learn some English and get back to me.” Andrade spoke some English last week and he’s been taking English lessons.

– The Firefly Fun House stuff is all Bray Wyatt’s idea. Bray is described is an “absolute genius” and he helps other wrestlers with their promos. “He’s one of the best guys in the locker room.”

– The writers he talked to say they loved when there was a real brand split.

– He mentioned The Revival/Usos storyline being done because Vince just thinks its funny.

– Some of the writers think Road Dogg will eventually end up in AEW. (Note: Road Dogg is currently on hiatus and there’s no word on when he will be back or what he would be doing if he returns).
I fucking knew it Vince is an idiot. And I would have love to see what Neville yelled at that crazy senior citizen.
 
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