[the_flock]

And? Tony didn’t say he was doing it to help Hunter’s product. He said he didn’t want to come between a parent and child getting to spend time together, because he was dealing with facing his mother’s mortality square in the face.

TK is a shit booker, but he could have easily told Regal to sit the fuck down, honor the contract, and shut up.

He let the guy go coach his son and spend time with him.

He could have done yes, but he didn't have long left on his contract anyway. He literally has 4 months left.

How's that working out for Punk or the others who can't get out of their contracts.

Regal wanted out after 6 months, TK wouldn't let him out until the end of the year and then added a bs stipulation

You can positive spin it all you like.

 

[the_flock]

Only way those terms make even a slight bit of sense is if AEW are paying Regal his full contract while he works behind the scenes..

AEW cannot enforce any rules on any performer if no longer under contract. It's utterly ridiculous to even suggest a clause like that.

Vince was called Satan for the 90 day no compete where performers got FULL PAY. Imagine if Vince said to Toni Storm or Cesaro or Black or Revival or Jeff Hardy etc etc 'OK I will release you, I won't pay you one penny and you cannot appear on TV for one year'

It would be interesting to see the fine print. If it states William Regal, he could probably appear as Lord Regal, Commissioner Regal or even Darren Matthews

 

[the_flock]

Haha, I meant I believe Tony when he says FTR have been supportive.

They're leaving soon anyway. They literally have 3 months left.

 

[CM Buck]

They're leaving soon anyway. They literally have 3 months left.

Proof please? To suggest ftr is leaving as fact would be dishonest

 

[the_flock]

Proof please? To suggest ftr is leaving as fact would be dishonest

Dax gave an interview for fightful a couple of weeks ago where he said "he “believes” FTR's contract expires in April 2023."

 

[CM Buck]

Dax gave an interview for fightful a couple of weeks ago where he said "he “believes” FTR's contract expires in April 2023."

I'm aware of the expiry date. Where's the interview where they say they are leaving?

 

[the_flock]

I'm aware of the expiry date. Where's the interview where they say they are leaving?

We've thought about, what if we just take a year off TV?" said Harwood.

"You might not see us mainstream, but it's so we can rest our bodies, and two, so we can do things that make us happy and bring us joy."

 

[CM Buck]

We've thought about, what if we just take a year off TV?" said Harwood.

"You might not see us mainstream, but it's so we can rest our bodies, and two, so we can do things that make us happy and bring us joy."

Weighing up the options. Not outright pip pip cheerio but I can see how you came to your conclusion.

 

[Wolf Mark]

Not suspicious at all when. the. guy. wants. to. be. with. his. son. and. go. back. to. the. place. that. he. didn't. want. to. leave. in. the. first. place.

So it was EC3 that said the "Regal didn't like being in AEW"? A guy that DOESN'T EVEN WORK IN AEW AND ISN'T IN THAT LOCKER ROOM?? Like, come on y'all.. stop fishing for negativity.

I don't buy it. The whole son thing seems to be an excuse they gave to the press so they would shut up. "Say you wanted to go back to be with your son".

 

[CovidFan]

I don't buy it. The whole son thing seems to be an excuse they gave to the press so they would shut up. "Say you wanted to go back to be with your son".

Just say you want to make TK the bad guy here because you don't like him. There's no reason to doubt TK's story and there's a helluva lot of reason to doubt EC3's.

 

[bdon]

He could have done yes, but he didn't have long left on his contract anyway. He literally has 4 months left.

How's that working out for Punk or the others who can't get out of their contracts.

Regal wanted out after 6 months, TK wouldn't let him out until the end of the year and then added a bs stipulation

You can positive spin it all you like.

And he could have picked up the option for another year. You can try as much as you like, but this is not a Vince thing.

 

[Ultimo Duggan]

Only way those terms make even a slight bit of sense is if AEW are paying Regal his full contract while he works behind the scenes..

AEW cannot enforce any rules on any performer if no longer under contract. It's utterly ridiculous to even suggest a clause like that.

Vince was called Satan for the 90 day no compete where performers got FULL PAY. Imagine if Vince said to Toni Storm or Cesaro or Black or Revival or Jeff Hardy etc etc 'OK I will release you, I won't pay you one penny and you cannot appear on TV for one year'

I gave the Flair example for a time that such unorthodox releases were negotiated.

Wrestling is still a carny business. There is still so much in pro wrestling that wouldn’t be tolerated in any sports league or television production set. The shifty no compete clause companies enforces wouldn’t work at all if they are seriously challenged in court. Nobody wants to burn bridges with WWE by taking their BS contracts to court. Countless wrestlers have questioned the legitimacy of being classified as independent contractors. It seems a pretty simple case to make. Nobody wants to bravely risk possible short term pain for long term gain that the entire industry would appreciate.

 

[Don Draper's Ghost]

LMAO @ Tony getting praised for "honorably" agreeing not to renew Willy Reegs contract under the 1 tiny, small, insignificant little condition he can't appear as an onscreen character in WWE for a whole year. Totally not petty vindictive behavior on Saint Anthony's part, nope.

It's not like Tony didn't benefit when former WWE stars who were clearly AEW bound like Andrade, Dustin Rhodes and Toni Storm were given their release with no catch that they can't appear onscreen for AEW for a year.

Imagine if Cody was a super Vince mark and requested his release to go back to AEW, Tony really wanted him back and Triple H granted. However Haitch says the Roller Coadster cannot be a tv character in the Dub for a year. Methinks there'd be nonstop bitching here and accusations of pettiness. But Tony does it abd gee whiz isn't he such a swell guy?

 

[bdon]

LMAO @ Tony getting praised for "honorably" agreeing not to renew Willy Reegs contract under the 1 tiny, small, insignificant little condition he can't appear as an onscreen character in WWE for a whole year. Totally not petty vindictive behavior on Saint Anthony's part, nobody. It's not like Tony didn't benefit when former WWE stars who were clearly AEW bound like Andrade, Dustin Rhodes and Toni Storm were given their release with no catch that they can't appear onscreen for AEE.

Imagine if Cody was a super Vince mark and requested his release to go back to AEW, Tony really wanted him back and Triple H granted. However Haitch says the Roller Coadster cannot be a tv character in the Dub for a year. Methinks there'd be nonstop batching here and accusations of pettiness. But Tony does it abd gee whiz isn't he such a swell guy?

What about Tony’s statement goes against your point? Does being on tv hinder him from being able to spend time with his child? This is Tony’s way of protecting himself against guys just wanting to leave for no reason and not honoring their contracts.

“You want to spend time with your son, then you can go but you will not play on my heartstrings while I’m vulnerable and dealing with my sick mother just to run back to Hunter.”

If he just wants to be with his son…Tony gave him that option.

 

[CovidFan]

I gave the Flair example for a time that such unorthodox releases were negotiated.

Wrestling is still a carny business. There is still so much in pro wrestling that wouldn’t be tolerated in any sports league or television production set. The shifty no compete clause companies enforces wouldn’t work at all if they are seriously challenged in court.

Actually it's very accepted as a thing:

A noncompete agreement is a binding contract that prevents an independent contractor from competing with the employer during the contract and a set period of time afterwards. The agreement means the contractor cannot work for a competitor or work independently in the same exact field.

Brock challenged Vince's contract in court in 05 or 06 and won but his case was that the 10 year no compete was excessive and won so the question really is, how long is excessive?

 

[Don Draper's Ghost]

What about Tony’s statement goes against your point? Does being on tv hinder him from being able to spend time with his child? This is Tony’s way of protecting himself against guys just wanting to leave for no reason and not honoring their contracts.

“You want to spend time with your son, then you can go but you will not play on my heartstrings while I’m vulnerable and dealing with my sick mother just to run back to Hunter.”

If he just wants to be with his son…Tony gave him that option.

But he's not in AEW anymore either way why does he give a shit what he does in WWE? And I'm sorry about what happened to Tony's mother and I'm glad she's OK but AEW fans are already using it as a shield against Tony criticism.

Triple H himself suffered very serious heart problems this year, are you gonna handle him with kid gloves because of that? Bad shit happens to people all the time the answer isn't be a petty dick because "but but my mom was in the hospital!"

If he respected Regal as much as he claims just let him go no strings attached. As I mentioned before Tony himself has benefited from some of his current stars getting their immediate no strings attached releases from WWE and going straight to Jacksonville so it's also hypocritical as fuck along with being childish, petty and vindictive.

If WWE releases a big name he wants in the future he should do the "honorable" thing he's done to Regal and hold them off TV for a year. It's only fair.

 

[the_flock]

And he could have picked up the option for another year. You can try as much as you like, but this is not a Vince thing.

He basically did pick up the additional year though didn't he. Regals contract ends in Feb. TK now has him locked in a year long contract where he's not allowed to appear on screen.

If he was such a nice guy he would have said fine, leave at the end of your contract.

Lots of stories are coming out now that Regal arrived in AEW and couldn't believe what he was seeing and wanted out.

 

[bdon]

But he's not in AEW anymore either way why does he give a shit what he does in WWE? And I'm sorry about what happened to Tony's mother and I'm glad she's OK but AEW fans are already using it as a shield against Tony criticism.

Triple H himself suffered very serious heart problems this year, are you gonna handle him with kid gloves because of that? Bad shit happens to people all the time the answer isn't be a petty dick because "but but my mom was in the hospital!"

If he respected Regal as much as he claims just let him go no strings attached. As I mentioned before Tony himself has benefited from some of his current stars getting their immediate no strings attached releases from WWE and going straight to Jacksonville so it's also hypocritical as fuck along with being childish, petty and vindictive.

If WWE releases a big name he wants in the future he should do the "honorable" thing he's done to Regal and hold them off TV for a year. It's only fair.

But that wasn’t why Regal asked to leave.

“If you want to go be with your son, then I am fully understanding and supportive of that. If you just want to leave to go be with Hunter, then I am not supporting that. So here are stipulations to prevent you from taking advantage of my kindness.”

Look at my history. I am always in favor of the boys honoring their contracts, but I am not a fan of the CEOs telling the boys they can’t use their celebrity on social media to make a few extra bucks without my say so.

Nor am I a fan of CEOs tacking on months to contracts due to injuries - said as much as recently when it was mentioned that TK might force Omega to work an extra 9 months due to missed time. If you get hurt on company time, then you heal on company time.

TK is no saint here, but he did more than Vince would, which is precisely what you are angling for here: some weird “a ha! Gotcha!!” moment. TK did the honorable thing while protecting his business. He could have very easily took the Vince path and locked him up just so WWE couldn’t have him at all.

Regal and TK took a gentlemen’s agreement to part ways. Don’t see how this is twisted into Tony being evil.

 

[zkorejo]

He also doesn't want ROH to be the focus of AEW TV and after this week, he will be limiting how much ROH is on AEW TV. He said he'll punt the question about ROH TV to after Final Battle

A huge step in the right direction if it happens.

 

[Ultimo Duggan]

But he's not in AEW anymore either way why does he give a shit what he does in WWE? And I'm sorry about what happened to Tony's mother and I'm glad she's OK but AEW fans are already using it as a shield against Tony criticism.

Triple H himself suffered very serious heart problems this year, are you gonna handle him with kid gloves because of that? Bad shit happens to people all the time the answer isn't be a petty dick because "but but my mom was in the hospital!"

If he respected Regal as much as he claims just let him go no strings attached. As I mentioned before Tony himself has benefited from some of his current stars getting their immediate no strings attached releases from WWE and going straight to Jacksonville so it's also hypocritical as fuck along with being childish, petty and vindictive.

If WWE releases a big name he wants in the future he should do the "honorable" thing he's done to Regal and hold them off TV for a year. It's only fair.

Regal is NOT a wrestler anymore. Most of the AEW signings are wrestlers. That isn’t exactly an apt comparison.

Regal wants to go and help his son. He doesn’t need to be on television.