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He's hit it what? Twice since WM? And both times its not even been made to seem like a big move, the announcers barely put it over, they don't even say "He's setting up for his finish!" when he gets them in the Rainmaker position, they themselves don't even act as if they know its his finisher "He's setting up for something here it seems".

I mean he should be hitting it every week and putting it over in his promos, because as it is i doubt anyone in the crowd even knows what his finisher is atm, you ask any of them and they'll go "Um..The Pedigree?". By now there should be some kind of reaction when he sets up for it, but still crickets, because of how little he's used it.

He should be hitting it in brawls and the announcer should be putting over how devastating it is, they just aren't even trying.
 

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I forgot about it because it feels like he hasn't used it once since he debuted it.

Have they named it yet? What about 'the knee that didn't beat Okada' :lol
 

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I wonder if they are still undecided on it. They had him attempt both this new finisher and the Phoenix Splash and they protected both by having Reigns dodge them as opposed to kicking out of them. If the Phoenix Splash poses no issues for his knees then they should just go with that as his finisher.
 

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I agree with you.

I guess they tried doing that tonight ? In his promo he said Roman would catch a knee to the face or something but that's not good enough he needs to establish a name for it.
 
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I wonder if they are still undecided on it. They had him attempt both this new finisher and the Phoenix Splash and they protected both by having Reigns dodge them as opposed to kicking out of them. If the Phoenix Splash poses no issues for his knees then they should just go with that as his finisher.
Idk about that how many guys do more impressive Phoenix splashes in the company? Neville and Rich Swann both hit theirs from the second rope, then there's guys like Ibushi, Ospreay and Ricochet who will put it to shame. Ospreay and Richoett do it from the second rope as well. He should just beg for the Curb stomp back.
 

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After his promo, I finally understand why he went with the V-Trigger.

"My biggest weakness (the knee) is now my greatest strength."

It's a nice bit of psychology that unfortunately seemed to go over almost everybody's head....you know....because we're all dumbass wrestling fans.

But, with all that being said, he's only gotten a chance to use it once in a random tag match against Gallows and Anderson. Maybe it won't work well as a finisher anyways, but we'll never know unless he's actually given a chance to...you know...use it once in a while.

It doesn't even have a fucking name yet :lol

And the fucking name it should be (Kingslayer) is standing there, looking Creative dead in the eye and going "Wtf dude?"
 

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Agreed, the key for a move like this is how Rollins sets it up and hypes the crowd for it. It is a simple move but can be made to feel like a big deal with the right setup.
No offense but Rollins doesn't have 1/1,000,000,000,000,000 of the charisma or presence The Rock has.

He could get away with stuff like that because he is The Rock.

Rollins doing the phoenix splash is always more impressive then the typical Indy/Japan geek doing it, because he's bigger than the majority of them. Seeing a guy that size do that move is always fun.
Yet they do it from the second rope or are far slicker...
 

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My biggest thing is it doesn't have a name yet. Best way to sell a finisher in terms of commentary is to reveal the name lol.
Lol yeah forgot about that, can't believe they've still yet to even give it a name, as you said it would make it alot easier to put over on commentary if they actually give it a fucking name already.

Maybe they could just reuse what the curbstomp used to be called and call it The Blackout.
 

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No offense but Rollins doesn't have 1/1,000,000,000,000,000 of the charisma or presence The Rock has.

He could get away with stuff like that because he is The Rock.
You don't need Rock's level of charisma to get a move/finisher over. It is about incorporating some mannerisms and swagger or routine before the actual move to get people invested. Hell, hate him all you want but look at how Balor sets up his finisher, or Styles with the phenomenal forearm, that feeling where the audience sees a wrestler and says "ah, here comes the finish" is key. Rollins needs to create that for his new finisher.
 

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No offense but Rollins doesn't have 1/1,000,000,000,000,000 of the charisma or presence The Rock has.

He could get away with stuff like that because he is The Rock.

Yet they do it from the second rope or are far slicker...
Good for them. Considering they're not in WWE and not the same country in some cases, that doesn't mean shit. Rollins has been doing the move since 2008, too.
 

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No offense but Rollins doesn't have 1/1,000,000,000,000,000 of the charisma or presence The Rock has.

He could get away with stuff like that because he is The Rock.

Yet they do it from the second rope or are far slicker...
Dat psychology tho :lol

"I could hit this move from the top rope to cause more damage, but I think I'll hit it from the second rope because it looks cooler!"
 

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So was The Peoples Elbow but they got it over. You can get a bearhug over as a finisher if its used enough and shown to put people away.
The People's Elbow atleast had some showsmanship to it. Rollins knee is just boring. If he's gonna do it, he needs a better set up than "hey im gonna ballerina spin you like they do in japan lol".
 
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