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Fucking hell.

First thing son, millions of people take wrestling seriously and it is the tiny tiny minority that like 'comedy' wrestlers over the wreal wrestlers.

You may enjoy the Santino tea partys or Lashleys sisters segments but 99.9 percent of fans would rather watch Bret Hart vs Steve Austin.

That quote is exactly why you and people like you are what is wrong with the wrestling industry fans.
First of all I don't even like WWE's bullshit version of comedy so don't put that on me. Secondly I understand people want to take Wrestling seriously and that's okay but what you and several others need to understand is that THIS IS JUST ONE FUCKING PERSON. He's not gonna be the whole show and AEW is not going to be funny funny all the time because of him. You got your serious wrestlers in Moxley, Jericho, Omega etc so what's really the problem? Noone is saying you have to like OC or comedy in wrestling in general so what's really the issue? Why are y'all writing AEW off so quickly? Thirdly if anything people like YOU are what's wrong with wrestling because you want everything to be so fucking serious and dangerous. We need variety, we need different things, some serious some comedy and some shit in between. Wrestling is never going to be 100% serious and that's okay. I mean hell if you think about it the very nature of it really doesn't allow it.
 

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Secondly I understand people want to take Wrestling seriously and that's okay but what you and several others need to understand is that THIS IS JUST ONE FUCKING PERSON.
Yes but for his gimmick to work his opponents have to play along with it or he'll look like a fan that's not meant to be in there.
 

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Secondly I understand people want to take Wrestling seriously and that's okay but what you and several others need to understand is that THIS IS JUST ONE FUCKING PERSON.
Yes but for his gimmick to work his opponents have to play along with it or he'll look like a fan that's not meant to be in there.
Wait so the rest are hitting each other for real? :monkey
 

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so yeah that's how pro-wrestling works

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Exactly, so people that play along with this guy with his hands in his pockets look stupid just like people that jump away from people throwing invisible grenades.
 

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Exactly, so people that play along with this guy with his hands in his pockets look stupid just like people that jump away from people throwing invisible grenades.
Or people who continue running when thrown into the ropes.
 

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Just having a good laugh at everyone in this thread, thank you all. Arguing over a guy weather he should be in a wrestling promotion or not.

My fav part is people acting like they get to dictate what AEW should be.


I'll say it again, this aint no one trick pony mark indy promotion. Its a big boy league which means it has to cater to the likes of all of us. Whether you like him or not some do.

Ever heard of the attitude era? It was actually filled to the rim with this shit.


I think people are confusing wwe bad product and kiddy shit with comedy. Comedy os fine its that the entire wwe brand is bad no mather who comes out the door, now its created this tension with wrestling fans. I get it.


Anyways how many times does wins and loses need to be explained to people. This is not a fucking real sport, get that in your head. When a company aay wins and loses matter it means "SOME WRESTLERS" will be competitive and ones fighting for belts will follow that aspect.

A good show can present all aspects well. This is not a action movie its a entertainment movie


Love you all
 

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Or people who continue running when thrown into the ropes.
Or get scared when Bray Wyatt does his spider walk, because it’s so scary you don’t think about attacking a guy that does a fucking bridge in the middle of a serious “fight”.

It’s just one guy with a different gimmick signed...
 

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Saw him in the Battle Royal and thought his stuff was funny so I went ahead and looked up some of his matches. I think it's an entertaining gimmick and definitely enjoyed the handful of matches of his that I saw. I do wonder how a gimmick like this will translate to on a national stage before a major audience. He's definitely not someone you can book once a week or even once every 2 weeks probably. I thought the signing of Marko Stunt was a horrible idea but I'm definitely a proponent of Orange Cassidy's signing.
 

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To think we live in a time where fucking Orange Cassidy has a damn near 300 post thread on him.

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed. Or both.
 

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To think we live in a time where fucking Orange Cassidy has a damn near 300 post thread on him.

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed. Or both.
I think this is the third massive thread dedicated to him since the AEW section opened.

Dude is legit. I just hope he sticks around in pro-wrestling for a while before his eventual and inevitable move to the UFC.
 

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Eh...... whatever


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Listen, I'm on your side but there's no need to get in trouble by going a little too far.

Anyway:

Line from OC in here kind of sums up how I think they view things, which doesn’t hold true for me at least:

“I figure if I’m having fun, then everybody in the audience is having fun.”

I, for one, do not find his comedy, for the most part, to be fun. And I think some of the AEW crew have the idea that they are here to amuse themselves and that’s going to amuse everyone and take them along for the ride. The Fyte Fest stuff underscores this.

Only if people in the audience are looking for the ‘sports-based alternative to WWE’ — which is how they bill themselves — then they might be turned off by this stuff (especially casuals who they’re trying to draw in) and instead lose potential audience.

The job isn’t to entertain themselves and hope we are all going want to be part of the in-jokes. It’s to entertain the audience, and that’s going to be much harder to do when that audience becomes the wider TV audience ... especially if their comedy just isn’t funny.
What if we DO find it funny, though? Are the ones that do any less right or wrong than you?

OC is right: If someone is truly themselves, it rubs off. For most people it has worked for him so far.
If you find it funny, I will accuse you of poor taste and part of the niche that is making wrestling too inaccessible for it to be enjoyed as wrestling. It’d be like giving an Emmy for Best Drama to Two and a Half Men or something. Keep that shit in it’s lane, which isn’t on TNT.

And I told you to fuck off because you always have to act so aggregated when someone puts you in your place. This isn’t “yucking someone’s yum.” It’s fair criticism by people who are passionate about wrestling.

Pretty funny that one side can make a case and the other is just like “But we like it! You’ve got to have variety which means there is going to stupid shit you don’t like.”

You just compared them to WWE and then said it isn’t AEWWE. Which one is it? Because signing Marko Stunt is a lot like signing Hornswoggle. I don’t think there is even anything as bad as signing Orange Cassidy.

It’s also quite troll-like that people are talking about the “blow-ups”. It’s a sneaky way of discrediting people’s opinions on their face. I haven’t read everything, but no one seems to be blowing up. They’re just pointing out this is stupid.

Ironically, it’s the fans of this sort of self-conscious reality-breaking stuff that seem to be on the “we’re told to like it” train. I think the point of the people criticizing this are actually saying wrestling doesn’t need to be as silly as what WWE presents. Going sillier is even more disheartening.
No matter how much pseudo-analysis you try to make, your opinion is still your opinion and isn't a fact. Hell, it isn't even the general consensus (no matter if that matters to you or not).

Save the concern trolling for those who don't know better. You know what "AEWWE critics" mean. Those type, you included apparently, want to say that they "support" or "love" AEW but then want to adhere it to the standards WWE has successfully forced and made fans to think it's the correct way of professional wrestling.

If you don't like the AEW product as it stands now, as you have made clear, don't watch it. Trying to act holier than thou about it makes you look like a prick who just wants to cause dissension and confusion amongst wrestling fans who, heaven forbid, are exciting pro wrestling may become interesting again.

Either shit or get off the pot. <img src="https://i.imgur.com/4lHheEO.gif" border="0" alt="" title="out" class="inlineimg" />
It is a fact that Orange Cassidy exposes the work every time he is out. That is not debatable. It is my opinion that is fucking stupid, and most of the people with common sense would agree. If you don’t have a work, you’ve got nothing.

What a gross misrepresentation to accuse someone of not being impressed by everything AEW does as being pro-WWE and what they’re doing. If anything, AEW has been too much like WWE for my tastes: shitty pre-shows and bad comedy gimmicks are totally WWE things. That is why people complain about them. Ironically, it’s like AEW fans can’t see past wrestling before the Attitude era and the bad tropes WWE has created since.

And, yes, holy shit, not watching it is damn likely right now, which is exactly what I’m worried about. Most wrestling fans — the couple of million out there that have switched off WWE or left after WCW jumped the shark — aren’t going to watch this crap. That is exactly the point.

AEW shills are just like the WWE shills, defending every stupid move they make no matter what.

Cassidy is a goofball, this signing has zero upside. I get that you need a couple of goofs on the roster, but they're over their quota. The same people that go on the WWEs board and shit on things like Maria and Mike defend this stupid nonsense, very hypocritical. And while I think WWEs product is shit, I'm not so sure AEW is going to be for me either. And while that's fine and all, they can do what they wish and they'll for sure garner some small niche, but they had a chance to attack WWE when it was at it's weakest point in history, and they're probably going to blow it. Well, the Bucks and Cody are gonna make a lot of money and they're going to get their friends paid, so they'll benefit in the end, but I feel bad for Tony Kahn, who took a chance on these guys and pro wrestling and will ultimately wind up being double crossed and taken advantage of.
Here, here. Was super on-board with AEW, and now I’m anticipating heartbreak. Wrestling is getting yet another chance and I am scared it is going to be fucked up and it won’t get another one.
 

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I'm looking forward to everyone having a mark out laugh every time he comes out and wrestles. Laughter is important so maybe some of you should take a break from your straight edge Ways????
 

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If you find it funny, I will accuse you of poor taste and part of the niche that is making wrestling too inaccessible for it to be enjoyed as wrestling. It’d be like giving an Emmy for Best Drama to Two and a Half Men or something. Keep that shit in it’s lane, which isn’t on TNT.

And I told you to fuck off because you always have to act so aggregated when someone puts you in your place. This isn’t “yucking someone’s yum.” It’s fair criticism by people who are passionate about wrestling.

Pretty funny that one side can make a case and the other is just like “But we like it! You’ve got to have variety which means there is going to stupid shit you don’t like.”



It is a fact that Orange Cassidy exposes the work every time he is out. That is not debatable. It is my opinion that is fucking stupid, and most of the people with common sense would agree. If you don’t have a work, you’ve got nothing.

What a gross misrepresentation to accuse someone of not being impressed by everything AEW does as being pro-WWE and what they’re doing. If anything, AEW has been too much like WWE for my tastes: shitty pre-shows and bad comedy gimmicks are totally WWE things. That is why people complain about them. Ironically, it’s like AEW fans can’t see past wrestling before the Attitude era and the bad tropes WWE has created since.

And, yes, holy shit, not watching it is damn likely right now, which is exactly what I’m worried about. Most wrestling fans — the couple of million out there that have switched off WWE or left after WCW jumped the shark — aren’t going to watch this crap. That is exactly the point.



Here, here. Was super on-board with AEW, and now I’m anticipating heartbreak. Wrestling is getting yet another chance and I am scared it is going to be fucked up and it won’t get another one.
"Put me in my place"? Come on. There IS no right or wrong here! You can dislike OC without saying those that do are idiots. Whats so hard about it? There is no "Place" anyone need be put in! Its not a matter of one side knowing better.
 

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I'm calling it.

Nobody won, for the record.
 
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