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I don't understand what's funny or entertaining about a wrestler doing weak slow attacks.

ppl bantering "omg he's overpowered" as a joke I roll my eyes..

I'm hoping the perception of how many ppl are interested in him is exhagerrated online.

And I pray the ratings tank whenever orange, havok or janella are on TV and the elite and khan snap out of their bubble and stop catering to indy shit. Lapsed fan oh please, lapsed fans are not indy fans. indy fans are the lowest in terms of ability to please, they like everything and anything, cater to them and good luck succeeding.
There's a whole lot of ego in this post.
 

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A lot of peeps knowing better.... meanwhile, AEW will be selling out their next two shows

And i’ll be left a giggling mess again

Or like..... :datass .... whatever
 

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By that argument the Librarians are great signings as well?
People just didn’t like the librarians after they saw them a few times. They’re getting spun up into an absolute frenzy just over the announcement of OC’s signing, which I’m finding hilarious.
 

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Bad signing. The gimmick isn't funny or usefull at all.

This is the kind of gimmick that can get (somewhat) over in a small indy environment but it'll never work with a (hopefully) wider audience in TNT.

Let's see how they'll use him but signings like this make me believe in Cody's saying that they'll be true to "who got them there" and while that may be ok, it will probably fail to attract new or lapsed fans.

They'll still have a lot of credit, they've been proven successful so far, but these kind of signings make me worried as I have big hopes for AEW.
 

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I don't understand what's funny or entertaining about a wrestler doing weak slow attacks.

ppl bantering "omg he's overpowered" as a joke I roll my eyes..

I'm hoping the perception of how many ppl are interested in him is exhagerrated online.

And I pray the ratings tank whenever orange, havok or janella are on TV and the elite and khan snap out of their bubble and stop catering to indy shit. Lapsed fan oh please, lapsed fans are not indy fans. indy fans are the lowest in terms of ability to please, they like everything and anything, cater to them and good luck succeeding.
 

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Reading this thread, you'd think your gimmick gets assigned to you along with your sex at birth.
 

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I'm actually ok with this signing. For me it makes more sense then Marko Stunt. For most part Orange Cassidy can do what we saw at Double Or Nothing and then guy will hit finisher on him and beat him. It makes him entertaining job guy at times. But here and there we might see Orange Cassidy do roll up pin to beat someone.


That's when the character becomes more interesting. If you have some heel embarrassed after losing to him. Then when heel is beating crap out of Orange Cassidy. It will lead to a big pop from the crowd when he starts to fight back and actually wrestle.


I don't think it's gonna be like the indies. When they do 10 minutes of silly crap with him. It will mostly be quick matches with him doing his act and losing. Or quick matches with him getting surprise upset wins by roll ups. Something like 2 or 3 minute matches. Then every now and then we will get real fight from him.


The crowd not knowing what their gonna get every week will find it interesting and plenty of people will find his act funny. While people who don't like his act, well he can be looked at as a jobber to them. Either way it's not a big deal he's not gonna be main eventing ppvs or be in many non ppv pre shows. While on tv his comedy matches will be really short and his real matches should get strong reaction from the crowd.
 

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Ehh, I don't dislike him, but personally a little of him and his antics goes a long way. AEW has plenty of weirdos though so he'll fit right in.
 

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Lol, AEW are going to learn the hard way, I guess. And wrestling fans are going to be the ones that end up paying. *Sigh* Maybe someone will get it. I hope Billy Corgan gets together a team that can grab the ears of network executives and let them know that this doesn't have to be what wrestling is. Fuck's sake -- how hard is it to just try half-way seriously to put on a sincere fucking product?

I feel like I should post the Orange/Starr match to shut Mr Red up, but it wont do any good.

Fuck it


<img src="http://i.imgur.com/mBCtCEV.gif" border="0" alt="" title="cozy" class="inlineimg" /> When OC snaps on the likes of MJF or Jericho, you'll see how great he is.
That's the thing, if you don't think about the gimmick, you find out he's a very good wrestler.

Anyways, even if AEW is trying to be more wrestling based than WWE, you still need to have comedy acts like Orange to go along with you're more serious stuff. In wresting, just like ice cream, you need different flavors to help out the product.

Back to Orange, I can't wait to be squeezed. <img src="http://i.imgur.com/GkHkVKq.gif?1" border="0" alt="" title=":mark:" class="inlineimg" />
No, you really don’t need comedy acts like Orange Cassidy. Where does this mentality come from?

Agreed, even most of the fans are carnies. Great signing by the way. Dude is hilarious. Some people need to lighten up. Just because the humor in WWE is god awful and fueled by an out of touch, senile, has-been, not all comedy acts are terrible. I mean look at some sarcastic reply's about his "brute strength" and how he's a killer etc. Dude is going to over. Also realize not everyone is going to Main Event right out of the gates.
Also, There's more to wrestling than just the main event.

Also, As someone else said. We get an actual character wrestling with a unique gimmick and people shit all over it. Isn't this what people have been wanting out of wrestling?
Something not being main event does not mean it has to insult your intelligence. Again, where does this mentality come from?

And no, people haven’t been craving bad gimmicks. Why would anyone think this is what fans are after?

Yeah And pushing silly niche indie gimmick shit about how powerful and violent this goof is is the antithesis of geek. I get it you think you're in on the joke - but you're part of the joke. Only nobody is laughing at it or the hiring except WWE today.

Worst day for AEW since the CBR debacle at DoN. And at least the CBR could be glossed over by the rest of that card. This is stand alone in all it's glory horrid.

Cassidy is right up there with Dick Flip guy as to what is wrong with niche indie wrestling fans - grab on to something stupid because it's "theirs" and pretend it's the greatest thing in the world. Wrestling equivalent to hipsters. Cater to this vocal minority niche and you're not getting back the lapsed casuals.



Says who? I think YOU might like Mae Young giving birth to a hand, but you don't speak for the majority of lapsed fans.
An example of someone raising a good point and someone else just dismissing it because it’s too hard to actually come up with something back.

That is an opinion you are indeed allowed to have.
Why do fans talk like they are actually part of the industry

That mong bean thinks he’s cornette or something - ‘disrespecting the business’

Gettafuckouttahere - glad he’s on my ignore list..... so I won’t even see a reply <img src="https://www.wrestlingforum.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />

But like..... <img src="https://i.imgur.com/8pbAc6X.png" border="0" alt="" title="Ass" class="inlineimg" /> ...... whatever
You don’t know they’re not. They’re also correct, so there’s that.

In the past, wrestlers were one of a kind tough men. In the present, any un-trained toothpick sized fan who wants to call themselves a wrestler can be signed to a contract. It’s a fucking mockery that’s what it is. I don’t need to watch a show were I’m more believable as an athleet than those who are performning.
Then.... don't watch?

Who gives a shit.
Lol, only wrestling fanatics in 2019 want to put out a show and be all “don’t watch it”.

Plenty of people won’t be, don’t worry.

i'm not insulting. The answer to your question was in my original post.

Cater to the easiest to please and you'll lose out on the rest.

Cater to the harder to please and you'll still attract the easily entertained aka indy fans.
Another example of someone making a good point and people acting like they are just too far above it to give it the time of day.
 

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OC is going to flop big time. And its not the person portraying the character itself.

I just don't trust AEW annoucers to get the gimmick over. Marvez has no clue and Jim Ross is too old school to understand how to tell the story of what OC is to the viewers.
Ross always has a hard time calling comedy spots. that's where he relied on Lawler
 

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Lol, AEW are going to learn the hard way, I guess. And wrestling fans are going to be the ones that end up paying. *Sigh* Maybe someone will get it. I hope Billy Corgan gets together a team that can grab the ears of network executives and let them know that this doesn't have to be what wrestling is. Fuck's sake -- how hard is it to just try half-way seriously to put on a sincere fucking product?



No, you really don’t need comedy acts like Orange Cassidy. Where does this mentality come from?



Something not being main event does not mean it has to insult your intelligence. Again, where does this mentality come from?

And no, people haven’t been craving bad gimmicks. Why would anyone think this is what fans are after?



An example of someone raising a good point and someone else just dismissing it because it’s too hard to actually come up with something back.



You don’t know they’re not. They’re also correct, so there’s that.



Lol, only wrestling fanatics in 2019 want to put out a show and be all “don’t watch it”.

Plenty of people won’t be, don’t worry.



Another example of someone making a good point and people acting like they are just too far above it to give it the time of day.
There's a lot of arrogance in your responses, Wood. No one here is "Correct". There is no "Correct" wrestling.
 
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