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I like it. Want to see where it goes as the writers get more comfortable with it.

I do see a problem though. A friend of mine who is a Family Guy fan watched and was disappointed it wasn't more of a comedy. Viewers tuning in may be expecting a tone similar to his previous work.
Yeah that's the kinda response I get from my friends and family. Seth is so heavily associated to FG. Which I'm a huge fan of. So I think some were expecting a show in a similar tone. Like you said, similar to FG. I think that's Fox's fault though. Their promotion was a bit innocuous. Marketing team fail I think.
 
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I haven't watched Family Guy since it was orginally cancelled like 15 years ago but my wife asked me to record it for her. I was definitely expecting more vulgar, laugh out loud spots but I don't hate it. It moved to Thursdays, FYI.
 

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I finally caught up with the first 2 episodes, way better than I thought it would be. Hopefully they can keep this up the rest of the season
 

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I don't want to keep bringing it up but it's distracting just how much of a Star Trek clone this show is. I've never watched Voyager but the 2nd episode was directed by one it's main cast members, Robert Duncan McNeill/Lieutenant Tom Paris. The 3rd episode was directed by Brannon Braga, a producer from TNG, Voyager and Enterprise. Episode 4 was directed by James Conway, who also directed episodes of TNG, DS9 and Enterprise. And lo and behold, Riker himself, Jonathan Frakes is the director of episode 5. They should have just come out and said this is a Star Trek spinoff that takes place in the same universe if they wanted to make another Star Trek show.

In episode 3, we got another Star Trek clone story about cultural differences between species and an officer serving as council in a court hearing. However, and this is where the praise comes in, I was very pleasantly surprised with how the episode ended. The expected ending was a winning of the case and the changing of the minds and blah blah but that's not where they went with it. They lost the case and the sex change happened, which rather impressed me because I didn't think they would do it, even though I was hoping they did.

Maybe there is hope for this show after all.

Oh and BTW, Rudolph is such a shit story. If I was Rudolph, I would have told Santa to go fuck himself. Y'all mother fuckers gonna treat me like shit but now you like me because you need my help? Fuck right off with that shit. Or better yet, take off with them but bail mid-flight and let those jagoffs crash in the winter storm. See ya, bitches.
 

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I don't want to keep bringing it up but it's distracting just how much of a Star Trek clone this show is. I've never watched Voyager but the 2nd episode was directed by one it's main cast members, Robert Duncan McNeill/Lieutenant Tom Paris. The 3rd episode was directed by Brannon Braga, a producer from TNG, Voyager and Enterprise. Episode 4 was directed by James Conway, who also directed episodes of TNG, DS9 and Enterprise. And lo and behold, Riker himself, Jonathan Frakes is the director of episode 5. They should have just come out and said this is a Star Trek spinoff that takes place in the same universe if they wanted to make another Star Trek show.
Seth doesn't have the rights to do a Star Trek show. And the point of the show was to make a Star Trek show that is lighter and more optimistic to offset the slew of darker and edger sci-fi, which now includes Star Trek itself.
 

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And odd jumble of campiness and sincerity, homage and satire...
How is this bad?

It's like that one person that reviewed Ozark. They didn't like Ozark because it was disturbing and hard to watch...I'm not even joking this exists. Ok cool, you don't like it, but it's your job to critique it and level your opinion on how effective and creative it is etc. If Ozark is disturbing and hard to watch...THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT'S TRYING TO DO. So Ozark is a success and you recommend it. I think Ozark was mostly praised though so it's not the same as The Orville.

As for The Orville I wasn't crazy about it. I'll give it a bit more time though.
 

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Most great shows never got any good till around its 2nd season. Even Seths Family Guy. Only got good around second season. Seinfeld was slow, Friends too.

It does borrow from Star Trek a bit, but I don't mind that. It's more Homaging. I agree it does offset the more edgier, darker sci fi shows. In a more funnier, lighter, and optimistic way. I think Chuck left a void. The Orville potentially could fill in a different way. It's not the finished product by any means. But it's one of the most promising new shows of the year. The direction at the end of the last episode. Was unexpected I agree. Pleased with that. I think Fox should order a second season so it cannot develop a bit more.
 

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I was able to catch up with the episode I missed and also watched the third. I found myself very happy with them. :)

I like how the show is actually taking on serious issues but buffering them with simple humor. I was especially impressed by how the show took on the serious cultural differences in the different species while trying to show both sides of why each felt the way they did about their position. Like @Tater, I was pleasantly surprised by the outcome of the tribunal. The relationship between the two male characters (and their son) could be a source of tension going forward in the series. I am really enjoying how the show isn't just a straight up comedy.

The one thing that kind of rubbed me the wrong way was the nod towards the "toxic masculinity" of the Moclins male only planet. But at least they didn't beat us over the head with it. I am fine with it as long as the show doesn't get preachy.
 

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I was able to catch up with the episode I missed and also watched the third. I found myself very happy with them. :)

I like how the show is actually taking on serious issues but buffering them with simple humor. I was especially impressed by how the show took on the serious cultural differences in the different species while trying to show both sides of why each felt the way they did about their position. Like @Tater, I was pleasantly surprised by the outcome of the tribunal. The relationship between the two male characters (and their son) could be a source of tension going forward in the series. I am really enjoying how the show isn't just a straight up comedy.

The one thing that kind of rubbed me the wrong way was the nod towards the "toxic masculinity" of the Moclins male only planet. But at least they didn't beat us over the head with it. I am fine with it as long as the show doesn't get preachy.
I am really enjoying the direction this show is going in as well, I like now that some issues don't always get a happy ending on this show like in real life. Curious how things play out moving forward.
 

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If I was going to do a Star Trek show Frakes and Brent Spiner would be my go-to guys. They love Star Trek and have a lot of insight, Dorn and Burton would also be great choices for people to do some work too.

I have nothing against dark and gritty, I won't say these have nothing to do with Star Trek as Wrath of Khan and Undiscovered Country were both fairly dark and gritty at times in tone.

The Klingons in UC actually felt brutal and warrior like. Khan was sadistic.

That being said, even dark and gritty it still felt like Star Trek because those stories were dark. It doesn't need to be the set tone all the time.

I wish the Borg and Dominion were handled more like the Klingons in UC or the Founders felt more threatening like Khan. While they did a good job with those groups they didn't feel as scary as they should. There wasn't a real feeling of danger. Though I did like how the Dominion War turned out.

Sisko did some shady shit to make sure the Federation survived and Kirk was like "Seriously, fuck the Klingons." Yet those characters weren't simply classified by those beliefs and actions. So dark isn't bad, just depends how you use it.
 

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It moved to Thursdays, FYI.
It was always going to be aired on Thursdays. The reason they did the first two episodes on Sunday night was to try and gain a good rating from the football game lead in and possibility take those ratings to Thursday night. Don't think it work since the ratings have dropped in half since then. As for the show, it's alright. I'll give it a little more time.
 

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Interesting that the don't seem to have transporter technology.
That aspect doesn't bother me. The show is already going to struggle with the obvious comparisons to Star Trek. This gives it one small thing to set itself apart with.

I just hope they have plenty of shuttles on board to make up for it. :mj
 

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I like that there are no transporters.

Beaming is something Gene Roddenberry kind of regretted introducing, or at least introducing early in the series, because to create tension they had to keep coming up with ways to break or neutralize the transporter.

Think about how many times the transporter didn't work correctly in all the series so they couldn't just beam the away party out of danger.
 

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Just watched second one. Interesting transition for me. I liked the social-cultural almost shift the show went into. With Social Inequality. The ending was a bit of a twist too. Their feels like a lot of genius in this show. But ATM it's a bit hit and miss. I think it borrowing from Star Trek we'll continue to be an issue. Like I said I don't mind that, seeing they seem to be Homaging ST. But if it's going to fulfil the potential I think it has. As I'm starting to think Stargate when I watch the show. It's going to have to start departing more.
 
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Man... what a show. I forgot that sci fi could be fun. Weird I'm having to thank McFarlane for the best sci finon TV right now and maybe even since Eureka ended. Hits the right comic moments but still has so much heart that it is shaming all the gritty sci fi out there right now.

And I can't help but loving the set and location work... it is just amazing.
 

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The 4th episode was good. Like, really good. And that was before the Liam Neeson cameo had me :mark:ing. If the first 3 episodes simply showed potential, the 4th one is where that potential was realized. If the show can continue to deliver episodes of this magnitude, we might just have a winner on our hands, folks. And holy shit, Charlize Theron in episode 5? Damn son, between her and Neeson they are scoring some A-list movie talent for their TV show. Color me impressed.

Just one small note about ep 4 though. That entire community probably broke out into bloody riots after the Orville left. Religious zealots are not known for handling it very well when their myths are proven wrong by science. :lol
 

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Haven't watched episode four yet. But this show maybe my fav new show of the year. Seth has his post Family Guy show haha.
 

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It's weird how Seth MacFarlane can create gold outside of the Family Guy trash. From American Dad, to Ted, to now The Orville. It's pretty obvious he's stopped caring about giving any creativity to the former opting instead to focus on other projects, can't say I blame him though, Family Guy has gone downhill since 2008. That being said, The Orville is pretty solid, I've seen the first three episodes and I've had fun with it, haven't seen episode four yet, but I will in a few.
 
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