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Re: WWE creative didn't make the Fiend.

You think?!….of course they didn't. That's way creative for them to come up with.

Say what you want about Bray, but the guy is a creative genius.
 

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Re: WWE creative didn't make the Fiend.

So you mean to tell me you are going to pretend like you are on this high horse and werent fans of gimmicks like Mankind, Undertaker, etc. STFU dude... this might be the dumbest attempt at being a smug, wrestling purist type. Oh what... how do you want your wrestling, grown ass man crying about gimmicks for an entertainment platform built for kids and teens.
Wrestling has changed. I’ve grown up. I don’t have time for scary clowns and teleporting zombies. I like my fake fighting to look believable and scary teleporting clowns don’t fit that taste.

I prefer people who, while characters, are based in some kind of reality and don’t look like escapees from Castle Greyskull.

If you like it, good on you. Not my thing though.
 

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Re: WWE creative didn't make the Fiend.

I mean, it's just Bray Wyatt wearing a mask. It's not anything special. That gimmick is not even close to Mankind (unless Bray wants to prove himself by diving on tacks and being thrown off the top of a cage), or Undertaker (who was complete gimmick).

A guy wearing a scary mask isn't a gimmick. That's like saying Rey Mysterio is a gimmick..no, he's just a guy wearing a mask.

Bray's mask reminds me of a cross between Doink the clown, and Papa shango. 2 gimmicks that were part of a terrible era.
 

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I dont understand wrestling fans. On one hand they will say WWE is trash because they come up with cheesy characters and that wrestlers should just be an extension of themselves and we should all just watch AEW....then when WWE comes up with an awesome character they wont even give them the credit for actually trying something different.

All goes back to what Ive been saying, regardless of what company you watch there's nothing wrong with wrestling today. The fans are the problem.
 

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Re: WWE creative didn't make the Fiend.

Everyone knows that. WWE's creative obviously isn't that smart. I give full credit to Bray for The Fiend character
This.

Even the original Bray Wyatt / Wyatt Family characters were something that Bray Wyatt came up with but Triple HGH took credit for it (as part of his NXT work).

The WWE creative including Vince himself are fairly useless these days.
 

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Re: WWE creative didn't make the Fiend.

Of course they didn't. It will all be down to Wyatt's creativity. But I guarantee if the character is a a big success in the long run, WWE shills/defenders will credit it all to Vince McMahon and Vince's "genius"......I can just hear Bruce Pritchard telling Conrad Thompson it right now.....
 

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Rollins will lose the title by Wrestlemania at the latest. If Lesnar can lose clean, then Rollins can too. Don't forget that WWE is the land of 50/50 booking. We could have said the same thing after he beat Brock at Mania.
He didn't beat Brock clean at Mania, he had to hit him in the nuts. That was still not FULL commitment. This is 100%, double down, this is our guy commitment. WWE may be the land of 50/50 but it's not 50/50 for Brock, and really, it's not even 50/50 for Seth and it hasn't been for a while. Seth wins all his feuds. When was the last time Seth came out of a feud the loser? I don't even remember. I remember him losing a feud to Bray Wyatt in 2017 but I can't remember anything else.

Yeah he looks strong AF now, but that can all change REAL quick depending on when Vince has one of his whims. Roman Reigns may be the one to defeat Rollins. The Samoan golden boy hasn't gotten much of anything lately. And it may happen by Survivor Series.
Vince doesn't have whims when it comes to his top guy. He has whims when it comes to most of the roster, but he is absolutely fixated on his top guy. He was laser focused on Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar for FIVE STRAIGHT YEARS.

Brock Lesnar doesn't play 50/50, and the guys who beat him don't either. That's the one thing you can count on with WWE. The guys who beat Brock have real, genuine super pushes. Rollins most of all. Sure, maybe Reigns will beat him. I doubt it. They're not even gonna be on the same brand. I think Rollins holds the title longer than Brock held it when he was breaking Punks reign. I could see this reign going until WrestleMania 37, I really could. Obviously ungodly bad ratings can change that, though, but that's about all I see in Rollins way.
 

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Fuck if I remember the exact circumstances but I know it happened a couple years ago. I might be off on it being 2017 but I think it was, maybe late 2016. Bray gets so fucking little I have to remember who he's beaten. It might have been before he won the title in the EC but I'm not completely certain.
 

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Re: WWE creative didn't make the Fiend.

Creative probably did have some input. But they kept Vince away from it. Remember creative in itself isn't the problem it's the uncreative jackass in charge
 

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Re: WWE creative didn't make the Fiend.

I'm enjoying it :eek:

Tom Savini is involved ':mark Dude created the Bray head lantern, and Rowan's clown mask. I'm sure he's got something else up his sleeve

Counting down the days until Bray kills Rollins, and uses his head as a lantern :banderas
 

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Re: WWE creative didn't make the Fiend.

A scary clown gimmick the fans will realise has no future after a year isn’t going to save it.
It's not like Slipknot is somehow still relevant and still sells out arenas
Its not like there was a lot of hype around the IT movie
It's not like The Joker is a cultural icon who blows every other Superhero villain pit of the water
It's not like the current biggest draw in Mexican wrestling has a clown gimmick

Nope people don't care about clowns, they should push CAW looking motherfuckers from NXT who's gimmick is being great wrestlers and try to overcompensate for their Balding Genetic by growing a beard
 

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Re: WWE creative didn't make the Fiend.

‘The Fiend is just a rehash of an evil Doink The Clown’

Not really true, but even if it was...I’d welcome that shit with open arms.
 
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