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the "dream match" between legends does NOT appeal to me at all

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especially when those legends had very little interaction and no rivalry whatsoever when they were actually wrestlers. Like a few years ago when everyone was trying to push Austin-Hogan........Austin-Hogan does nothing for me when both guys are 10 years past being retired, and broken down physically. They never had any on-screen history......so that chance was missed. I have zero desire to see it now.

Same thing with Michaels-Rock. Why? What's there to get excited about? Two guys with very little on-screen history, guys who are not wrestlers anymore......again, the chance was missed. Let it go. It' s too late for these guys to create new history, because they're not even wrestlers anymore. I would've loved to see it in 1998 or 2002. Not now. I can't see any good kayfabe reasons for them even wanting to wrestle.

I don't want to see two part timers or two guys who are way past their prime, feuding and having a so-called "dream match".

If a big star is coming back to wrestle a big match(Rock, Austin, Hogan, Michaels, etc.) I would much rather see them wrestle an old rival. At least then there's some nostalgia and history. I'd MUCH rather see Michaels-HHH than Michaels-Rock at this point. I'd MUCH rather see Austin-Rock or Rock-HHH at this point, than Rock-Michaels.

I have no problem with a Rock-Cena thing(or Michaels-Hogan back in 2005 when Michaels was still full time).....where it's a former star against a current star. That's ok. Two past stars with a historic rivalry....not all that exciting, but OK. Two former stars with no history whatsoever? Nope. Don't care, and don't see it as a "dream match" in the least. I see it as a pathetic and desperate attempt to add to legacies, when it's already too late for that.
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Nostalgia is like hope, an opiate that people let support bad choices.

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Nostalgia is like hope, an opiate that people let support bad choices.

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It's not even nostalgia though, when it's two legends who never wrestled. It's like they gotta wrestle now because of missed opportunities in the past......and that's guaranteed to suck.
I know that feel, OP.
Some dream matches are just that, a dream, that sound incredible. Like Bret Hart - Kurt Angle / The Rock - Shawn Michaels. Matches that would have been incredible to see when both guys were in their prime, but won't happen now. If they did happen now, yes, they'd be awful.

That being said, matches that people want like CM Punk - Steve Austin sound plain boring to me.
Same about Sting/Undertaker. They have nothing in common. They are totally different. Why do people want to see that? They haven't got any history whatsoever.
Same about Sting/Undertaker. They have nothing in common. They are totally different. Why do people want to see that? They haven't got any history whatsoever.
Undertaker debuted at Survivor Series, which begins with an "S", just like STING!! STING VS UNDERTAKER THIS YEAR AT SURVIVOR SERIES
Same about Sting/Undertaker. They have nothing in common. They are totally different. Why do people want to see that? They haven't got any history whatsoever.
It's not about them having history together. Fans want to see them create history together in a big time clash between two dark characters that were two of the biggest stars and staples in WWE and WCW history. It probably won't happen now but the build and mind games between the two is intriguing to think about. I can image the entrances and build up videos alone would be incredible.
I fully agree, there is very little point in bringing two guys back to face each other. If you're going to bring somebody back who doesn't usually work for the WWE then you might as well use them to face the current talent which will give them a rub and help them to get over, rather than bringing them back to go ever the current roster (ahem, Rock.)
Maybe a dream match between mostly inactive wrestlers wouldn't work but that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. If Sting came to face the Undertaker at WM I doubt these guys would provide an epic match but I'd still feel awesome while watching it.
It's not about them having history together. Fans want to see them create history together in a big time clash between two dark characters that were two of the biggest stars and staples in WWE and WCW history. It probably won't happen now but the build and mind games between the two is intriguing to think about. I can image the entrances and build up videos alone would be incredible.
It "would've" been incredible.....15 years ago. Now? They are both pretty much done. Undertaker is a special attraction part timer. Sting has been in the minor leagues(largely by choice, no diss to him) for 10+ years.

That's another one that I would have a hard time caring about. The time for it to happen came and went a long time ago. Too late to create history for those guys.
(Y) I agree.

Hell, some people still want to see Rock vs. HBK after that abomination Rock put on at Mania.

"They'll have a five star classic". :lmao

Rock was gassed walking down the ramp at Mania and HBK's clearly in no shape to wrestle again. He doesn't need to. He went out perfectly against Taker at WrestleMania 26.
It "would've" been incredible.....15 years ago. Now? They are both pretty much done. Undertaker is a special attraction part timer. Sting has been in the minor leagues(largely by choice, no diss to him) for 10+ years.

That's another one that I would have a hard time caring about. The time for it to happen came and went a long time ago. Too late to create history for those guys.
I agree Taker/Sting should have been done ages ago if it ever was going to happen. It will forever be one of those big what ifs in the minds and dreams of many fans.
Same thing with Michaels-Rock. Why? What's there to get excited about? Two guys with very little on-screen history, guys who are not wrestlers anymore......again, the chance was missed. Let it go. It' s too late for these guys to create new history, because they're not even wrestlers anymore. I would've loved to see it in 1998 or 2002. Not now. I can't see any good kayfabe reasons for them even wanting to wrestle.
I'm glad theres someone else out there who sees the importance of kayfabe.

This is one of the reasons I hated the Undertaker vs Triple H feud leading up to the last two WrestleMania's. There was no storyline or reason for them to fight, it was just "Hey we're old dudes, lets have a match" situation. I hate that shit.
especially when those legends had very little interaction and no rivalry whatsoever when they were actually wrestlers. Like a few years ago when everyone was trying to push Austin-Hogan........Austin-Hogan does nothing for me when both guys are 10 years past being retired, and broken down physically. They never had any on-screen history......so that chance was missed. I have zero desire to see it now.
Their only real chance would've been in 2002 but neither man was really willing to lose to the other. I still think that there would be interest in this match, if only to settle the a kayfabe dispute over who really was the best. As a storyline, with both men training all year in preparation and making a big deal of it being the last ever chance to see this match, I think it could be alright.

Same thing with Michaels-Rock. Why? What's there to get excited about? Two guys with very little on-screen history, guys who are not wrestlers anymore......again, the chance was missed. Let it go. It' s too late for these guys to create new history, because they're not even wrestlers anymore. I would've loved to see it in 1998 or 2002. Not now. I can't see any good kayfabe reasons for them even wanting to wrestle.

I don't want to see two part timers or two guys who are way past their prime, feuding and having a so-called "dream match".

If a big star is coming back to wrestle a big match(Rock, Austin, Hogan, Michaels, etc.) I would much rather see them wrestle an old rival. At least then there's some nostalgia and history. I'd MUCH rather see Michaels-HHH than Michaels-Rock at this point. I'd MUCH rather see Austin-Rock or Rock-HHH at this point, than Rock-Michaels.

I have no problem with a Rock-Cena thing(or Michaels-Hogan back in 2005 when Michaels was still full time).....where it's a former star against a current star. That's ok. Two past stars with a historic rivalry....not all that exciting, but OK. Two former stars with no history whatsoever? Nope. Don't care, and don't see it as a "dream match" in the least. I see it as a pathetic and desperate attempt to add to legacies, when it's already too late for that.
I'm glad there's at least one more person out there who sees the importance of kayfabe.

This is one of the reasons I hated the Undertaker vs Triple H feuds leading up to the last two WrestleMania's. There was no storyline or reason for them to fight, it was just "hey we're old dudes, lets have a match". I hate that shit. Not saying I wouldn't have liked to see a Shawn Michaels vs Rock feud, but I definitely don't want it just thrown together for the sake of it.
Storylines can be written, easily: The Rock and HBK have a slight history, for example, (Judgment Day 2000, for example) but even without it you could build a storyline out of their pride being at stake because they feel that they never got that elusive win over the other. "The whole time I've been in retirement it's been eating away at me! How can I call myself the best before I've beaten you / how can you call yourself the best when you've never faced me" etc. There are plenty of storylines that can be written, all based on their kayfabe idea that their career might not be over, and that they've got the Rocky Balboa desire for one last round.
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There doesn't need to be a past history when it comes to legend vs legend matches. The reason why they have these matches to begin with is because they've never been in the ring together. It's a new type of opponent for them to face, and something they've never done. As well as that, it's all the more special when a legend vs legend matches focuses on two wrestlers who have a similar history with each other. The Rock Vs Hulk Hogan was a match were two of the biggest stars in the wrestling business come together, that's a money maker match as well. Sting Vs Undertaker has always been a dream match because they have two very successful dark gimmicks that are somewhat similar, they're both mysterious, they play mind games and they've been loyal to their companies since they first debuted. I still think a Sting/Taker match in this day and age can work because Undertaker can still go in the ring and I still believe Sting can go as well.
Its all about the money guys. Who really cares if they have history together or not?
If you ever get to see a headline "The Rock vs HBK - Wrestlemania 30" , would you mind
if they had history or not?

Even fans who didn't watch WWE for 10 years will want to see it.
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