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Is it officially dead? There is a loaded roster of teams right now and they can't even bother to put a title match on the second biggest PPV of the year

Is this a lack of fan interest or terrible booking or both?

In terms of Talent, this is one of the deepest rosters they have ever had in the division but most of the teams just wallow week to week

The USO's
Viking Raiders
AOP
New Day
Gallows and Anderson
The Revival
Heavy Machinery
The Street Profits

With this talent there should be way more in terms of entertaining matches etc..
 

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WWE has done a great job at making everyone except the New Day and USOs complete geeks and not credible.
 

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Vince doesn't really like tag team wrestling..

Its been confirmed by Edge --> https://www.ringsidenews.com/2019/01/18/edge-says-vince-mcmahon-never-saw-much-in-tag-team-wrestling/

Also been confirmed by others along the way..

Rumors I've heard range from Vince thinking tag team wrestling is a "southern thing" dating back to JCP and other southern territories and kind of beneath the WWE. They run a sophisticated product you know. ;) I've also heard its an economic thing, paying 4 guys when you could be paying 2 guys..

There are probably other rumors of reasons why out there. Probably none of them make much logical sense. But its a "Vince thing". He doesn't think much of tag team wrestling.. Like a lot of Vince things it doesn't make much sense..
 

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It’s shocking to me with how much time WWE has to fill that they don’t do more with the tag, cruiser, and midcard belts. WWE lacks the stars for a good main event scene but they are flush with midcard talent. Yet they completely ignore the midcard stuff when that should be their bread & butter.
 

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Vince doesn't really like tag team wrestling..

Its been confirmed by Edge --> https://www.ringsidenews.com/2019/01/18/edge-says-vince-mcmahon-never-saw-much-in-tag-team-wrestling/

Also been confirmed by others along the way..

Rumors I've heard range from Vince thinking tag team wrestling is a "southern thing" dating back to JCP and other southern territories and kind of beneath the WWE. They run a sophisticated product you know. ;) I've also heard its an economic thing, paying 4 guys when you could be paying 2 guys..

There are probably other rumors of reasons why out there. Probably none of them make much logical sense. But its a "Vince thing". He doesn't think much of tag team wrestling.. Like a lot of Vince things it doesn't make much sense..
It makes no sense. Look at the Tag Team Division and the stars that came out of it. Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, to a lesser extent guys like the British Bulldog. When you include factions the list gets even bigger: The Rock, HHH etc..

Not too many guys made it on their own without a tag team or faction.
 

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It makes no sense. Look at the Tag Team Division and the stars that came out of it. Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, to a lesser extent guys like the British Bulldog. When you include factions the list gets even bigger: The Rock, HHH etc..

Not too many guys made it on their own without a tag team or faction.
I hear what you are saying, it makes sense and I agree. In a tag team or a faction a person is kind of protected from the 50/50 booking nonsense.

But its a "Vince thing"..that means it probably won't make sense to normal, rational people..
 

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It just feels so stale. Even with the recent additions, every match feels the same.

They should have kept Black and Ricochet together; not saying that would have saved the division but they are at least fresh and have an identity outside their partnership.
 

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It makes no sense. Look at the Tag Team Division and the stars that came out of it. Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, to a lesser extent guys like the British Bulldog. When you include factions the list gets even bigger: The Rock, HHH etc..

Not too many guys made it on their own without a tag team or faction.
You actually are making the exact opposite point I think you want to.

It is easier to put double the marketing/push/time into one guy, than split it between two.

tag team wrestling is more built for 2 guys who don't have enough to make it on their own and putting them together to make them a force.

Hawk and Animal by themselves are probably midcarders at best, but as the Road Warriors, they are one of the most legendary acts of all time.
 

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One of the big problems I can see with the division is that they don’t do anything outside of the title scene so when people get title shots they’re not really over. It’s an endless cycle of teams winning the titles and doing nothing with them before losing. It’s been that was for at least the past decade.
 

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It makes no sense. Look at the Tag Team Division and the stars that came out of it. Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, to a lesser extent guys like the British Bulldog. When you include factions the list gets even bigger: The Rock, HHH etc..

Not too many guys made it on their own without a tag team or faction.

To be fair, Vince probably uses that as reasoning to place less importance on tag team wrestling. Sure, it could produce a star but he probably feels he can meet the same objective without "the other guy".



Think of how many tag teams (particularly in WWE) that resulted in both men becoming singles stars, not including makeshift teams like Rated RKO. Not many, if any at all. Compare that to WWE's history of tag teams, which are usually conceived by a lack of opportunities and in some cases faith for either man as individuals.


I admit, his view on tag team wrestling is indeed weird but if your justification for it receiving increased importance is the amount of singles stars it produces, you're really not doing the concept of tag team wrestling any favors. It shouldn't be about the tag team producing a star; it should be about the tag team becoming stars, which has always been a rarity in the McMahon-ran wrestling promotion.
 

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It's terrible booking and lack of good teams. Go back two years ago with Seth and Dean reuniting. They were the most over thing on the show and actually felt like a big deal because all of their shit was treated as important.

WWE's problem is they absolutely refuse to put guys who are actually good and that they want people to take serious in tag teams. Why not use Lashley and Lio Rush as a tag team? Those guys fucking clicked together. Why not keep Drew McIntyre and Ziggler together? They clicked as a team, even if you wanna have Drew work singles feuds with Dolph as a manager, that's fine EVERYTHING doesn't have to be tag action for a team. Why not use Samoa Joe in a team or Sami Zayn, guys who are actually good.
 

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Vince hates tag team wrestling. Along with wrestling in general, while we’re on the subject.

That’s why we have AEW :mark:
 

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Is it officially dead? There is a loaded roster of teams right now and they can't even bother to put a title match on the second biggest PPV of the year

Is this a lack of fan interest or terrible booking or both?

In terms of Talent, this is one of the deepest rosters they have ever had in the division but most of the teams just wallow week to week

The USO's
Viking Raiders
AOP
New Day
Gallows and Anderson
The Revival
Heavy Machinery

With this talent there should be way more in terms of entertaining matches etc..
Tag-team division is outdated, even the tag-team titles are outdated. Ever since FCW and then NXT, it made that division pointless when you realize what the whole point of the tag-team titles were back in the 70's and 80s. Decades ago, the purpose of the tag-team titles were meant to be awarded to the best tag-team who had the best potential for one of the partners or both to becomes good singles competitors.

Forward to the development brands and you will see that there's no need for it. Sure, keep the tag-team titles in the development promotion (NXT) but there's really no need for it on the main rosters when you are supposed to have established your ring presence, character at the performance centre or development.

Tag-team titles don't do anything on the main rosters anymore, it's actually become a detriment to singles progression, and a major waste of roster spots which in turn leads to strange booking and lazy writing.
 
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