[shandcraig]

" what I can tell by Twitter is, Taker’s now not watching it. "

You can tell he's a Democrat, getting his marching orders from what he thinks people on twitter are doing.

Taker has literally been shitting on wwe for a few years. He cant directly publicly say it but he's criticized the hell out of the product. This isn't new

All the wrestlers from that generation are not watching thr product. Only ones watching
if they are giving personal review if they have a type of podcast that calls for it

I wouldn't expect anything different. All major modern wrestling companies are just generic trash.

 

[shandcraig]

I'd say this is the mature thing to do compared to all the people here that supposedly hate something, and then spend all their time here talking about how much they hate it

There is a massive difference because someone like Kevin and taker simply thinking it sucks and no longer watch it Compared to a shit loads of actual wrestling fans that badly want to like it but it comes up short. They are wrestlers and we are fans. There is a lot of us that either can't watch a single major promotion or find one we Criticize in hope of change.

This is why I will always continue to push People do understand that majority of modern fans are just reaching. Nobody genuinely comes off like they think what they see is some absolute magical thing. They hype themselves up and then it's over and they don't care. Someone like me I just simply don't do that. I acknowledge what it is.

It's like the endless fans in aew that gets so hyped about someone becoming a champion and one after another they all come up flat. Attitude towards them changes every time.

 

[shandcraig]

If anything they have more incentive to stay watching whilst hating it because it's actually related to their careers. Right but if your "criticism" is being ignored completely for years then what are you even doing at that point? Why not spend your time doing stuff you actually enjoy and can positively contribute to

Lol actually the Criticism grows in popularity year after year. Many peope wants change. I don't watch wwe and haven't for years. I casually watch aew and it's only been around 3 years. I do spend all my time doing other things. Me like many others are just on the last legs with aew. So now a wrestler is allowed to Criticize a product but a wrestling fan isn't, Right.

If we all followed your attitude the precious aew would be gone. Most people can Tolerate a fun 2 hour show that you are actually there. That is a huge different mentality than sitting on your couch every week watching a show. Thays why people say the tv product sucks. When you go live you're paying money to jerl off to everything and have a laugh and break from life.

 

[shandcraig]

Again, this is not just "criticising" a product. This is sitting there watching something you hate, and then spending your spare time talking about how much you hate it, even as you continue to watch it on a two-weekly basis. No one is forcing you to watch it

Yeah? And? Let it be gone if it's shit. It has no rights to just exist for the sake of it. Your individual opinion on a WF is not going to make Tony change his mind on things you dislike. What might get his attention is when people tune out and stop talking about it

Who hates aew? I don't it's just not good right now. It was good year 1.

Thanks for joining the bitching wagon, yours is just opposite. Thanks for contributing!

If you actually paid attention to all of people's posts instead of crying when somebody complains about something that clearly was crappy. You would realize they actually say normal things sometimes. Nothing is wrong with bringing up shitty stuff. Aew does a lot of that and so many people keep mentioning it. Cry me a river. I also say average posts about them too.


Are we here to circle jerk as a group over every last thing or bring up various topics, problems, solutions, and celebrate the good parts.

 

[shandcraig]

Every week there's a new person for reason for

Dishonest post is dishonest.

No where was it said or mentioned or implied that they don't watch because they think AEW sucks. You just assumed and made that part up.

Nash actually compared it to lent, which is actually a religous period of giving up something you enjoy.

It's not about nit watching at all. Its thr general perception they feel about thr product. Nothing is wrong with that. The comparison made them make a joke and now the marks are upset.

 

[shandcraig]

And those of us who loved it prior to the pandemic, rightfully shit on it as lazy during the pandemic, loved it again coming out of the pandemic, and are now again hating it and wondering if Tony isn’t just tired of it without his love (Punk) gone: what should we do? Should we have just given up during the pandemic?

Had we listened to you, AEW might have not tried to come out of the pandemic guns ablazing, content to listening to the echo chamber. Now the weekly shows are lazy again with TK resting on his laurels that the PPV will sell itself as long as Kenny Omega, Bryan, Bucks, Mox, and MJF are wrestling.

Every week we get a new guy offended by the reality. They always drop off fast

 

[shandcraig]

Clearly the people who watch it and spend all their time talking about how bad it is. Year 1 was like 3 years ago now bud.

The bitching bandwagon? What? Isn't that literally your entire point that you're allowed to bitch all you want because you care hahaha nice self own right there!

My point is people are here bitching about the product well you're bitching about people bitching. Majority of posts which zero of them are made by me are all bringing up problems with aew. Majority of people on here are like this right now.The real question is why are you here if you dont like that. Its more the stanard in here than not. Its not really the place for jerkoff fest, So maybe its not the right place for you.

 

[shandcraig]

General perception? Again, you are assuming. For all you know Nash is trolling hard.

Of the forum. Open your eyes and stop beubg blind. Majority of posts in here are

Actually let me add to that. No one is going around praising the weekly product in genral. In fact the ratings have flatlined and dropped more since year 1 average. They have a locked in on the number they have now on people that watch to watch no matter what. They watch and you don't hear endless praises from them. Who's happy are people showing up to the events. Which is entirely different market from watching on TV. Anyone showing up to an indy show is happy because you're in an atmosphere and you wanna enjoy 2 hours of your life. I go to my local wrestling event to engage with the circle jerk because it's fun in the moment. Same haooens at a aew event live. Watching as a TV show format from home is a different story. You think I'm making assumptions well where are the facts proving me wrong.

Why don't you make your circle jerk praise threads and see how few people are going to join

 

[shandcraig]

Man I remember when this company started, the expectationa were so high, we were really dreaming of having WCW vs WWE all over again

Instead.. We got Ring Of Honor with a budget 😭 life is unfair man.

Exactly, then we have 1 or 2 new fools a week coming in this forum at us like we're just hating to hate. The expectation wasn't met lol


Matches matches matches! Tune in these week please, great matches!

 

[shandcraig]

Imagine crying like a bitch because people enjoy something that you don't. Happens all the time in the "IWC". "Waaaah! You don't like what I like! Waaaah!"

I don't care what people like or not. I'm uere to talk about thr issues. I don't complain about others in here like others

 

[shandcraig]

Do you know the difference between an opinion and bitching? When someone makes 100 posts in a row about something, that's bitching. When someone makes 1 post on something, that is making a point. Comprende? What do you mean why am I on a WF if I dislike people constantly hate-watching stuff? Where is the correlation in my actions and my words. Who said I want a jerkoff fest, why are you arguing points I've never made? You need to calm down lil bro

Dude first off i dont make these posts. I just defend them happening when people like you cry. Simply dont go in them if you wanna cry. Everything people say in here is ongoing issues. Which means on going threads on it. Just get over it and go somewhere else. Why would you tell me to calm down? you seriously think im not calm over this shit, I couldnt care less. When you gotta go out of your way to tell people to calm down it says more about you. Make threads you like or shut up and be part of what they are talking about or simply dont, Pretty simple. Why dont you go after every OP making threads and be the warrior this section needs.

 

[shandcraig]

Why are you projecting about crying when you're clearly the one with the issue lol you weirdos really need to start thinking before you speak

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