[KingLobos]

I am not a Cena hater. But I am hearing people defend Cena winning and saying "this match elevated Bray, don't worry." But how? Cena single handily took out the ENTIRE Wyatt family by HIMSELF. He basically killed one of them through a barricade, like super Cena always does. I am not saying Bray got buried. But I think this does effect how serious people will take him. I also don't think WWE thinks he is a main event player, after what I saw last night and that is a shame considering Bray is very OVER.

Also Cena is at a point where it doesn't matter if he loses. The fact that they made it about him possibly turning heel, just to not make him lose was pathetic.

 

[Hawkke]

I am curious of this as well, and I am sure Sandow is still waiting for that exact same, "elevation"

Yeah it was a good match for sure, I quite enjoyed the story telling, I just had to facepalm at the decision.

 

[Bushmaster]

Wait and see :ti

It's what we always hear after Cena overcomes the odds. Match told a good story but would have preferred Bray win due to some hesitation by Cena.

 

[WWE]

This ain't some Damien Sandow random shit.

Bray Wyatt got a 1 on 1 match with John cena at Wrestlemania. They obviously have high hopes for him.

but obviously, wait until Summerslam instead of some of yall assuming shit

 

[TJQ]

BECAUSE MAN HE WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE IN A WM MATCH WITH CENA, THAT MEANS A LOT ~~~~

I couldn't even tell you, man. I don't think it's going to kill him like some people seem to think, but I'm not sure how it helped.

 

[Domingo123]

I am curious of this as well, and I am sure Sandow is still waiting for that exact same, "elevation"

This. Bray is going nowhere.

 

[PalladiumL]

Since this was the only thing easily wrongly done with the show, I'm pretty sure it has to do with Cena. He has a lot of backstage power and he did the exact same thing to the Nexus back in Summer of 2010

 

[dmccourt95]

This whole 'legacy' schtick is wearing old, Cena was never gonna lose last night, his record at PPVs in the past 8 months has been horrible but hopefully this feud keeps going and Wyatt wins otherwise this whole elevate thing is rubbish, Wyatt needs to beat Cena at some point to look like a legit top heel, there's no point being a guy who looked dangerous but couldn't get the job done

 

[geomon]

He didn't elevate Bray. If anything Bray elevated Cena even more. "Look at Cena struggling with his inner monster. What a great guy to overcome that!"

 

[Kemil22]

Nobody benefits from cena winning this match

 

[x78]

Idiot Cena marks think that being buried by Cena is some sort of honor, just like they probably also think that being punched in the face by Mike Tyson would be an honor.

BTW all this match and feud showed was how much Cena was out of his depth character-wise with Bray.

 

[Mifune Jackson]

Since this was the only thing easily wrongly done with the show, I'm pretty sure it has to do with Cena. He has a lot of backstage power and he did the exact same thing to the Nexus back in Summer of 2010

The comparisons to Sandow are ridiculous. Sandow's Money in the Bank Cash-In stood in the way of WWE's greater plans for title unification and they had to throw it away to move on with the greater story. There was no way the TLC match was going to ever be Randy Orton vs Damien Sandow, and you people are completely ignoring that fact.


This match helped Wyatt because it was a WrestleMania payday against the guy who was wrestling The Rock in the main event just a year earlier. Wyatt was undefeated on PPV in singles competition (maybe all competition) going into this, with clean wins over Daniel Bryan and Roman Reigns.

This match was all about paying back Cena and his fans for putting over Randy Orton in three consecutive PPV title matches to build him up for Daniel Bryan. If you look at the larger scene: Bryan beat Cena clean, Wyatt beat Bryan clean, Byran beat Orton and Batista clean, and Wyatt was the odd man out without a loss here. It was all about setting the equilibrium of trading wins with each other. Wyatt was due a loss, and it's better to lose to Cena than the Brooklyn Brawler.

Wyatt's gimmick isn't that he's undefeated. It's that he's The Joker in the Dark Knight. He's powerful even in loss. He doesn't need to be undefeated and now his character doesn't have to be all about that.


I highly doubt this feud is over and that Wyatt isn't going to come out of this feud looking better. The Undertaker never beat the Ultimate Warrior either. This match didn't hurt Bray at all.


If you think it was just all "CENA WINS LOL" you're not looking at the bigger picture.

 

[Wynter]

In my opinion, Bray looked awesome last night. He was solid in the ring, his storytelling and psychology was A+ with his connection with the crowd only adding to it all.
Watching the fans absolutely enjoying Bray and singing along with him and at him was amazing :lenny

WWE has done a great job at building Bray's character as being bigger than or above wins/losses.

Bray can give two shits about his win/loss record. All he wants to do his spread his truth and get the fans to see cetain superstars and the world as he sees it.

He almost got into Cena's head last night, that was the whole story.
Bray didn't care about losing, he was just trying to get Cena to unleash his "True Self".

Unfortunately, having Cena basically no sell the match once it ended kind of diminished it a bit.
And if they don't continue this feud, Bray's whole mission has collapsed and this feud was meaningless.

If the WWE continues the program and Bray continues to play games with Cena because he now knows there's a weakness in John-because he did get in his head last night-this can turn out great for Bray.

But, Bray wasn't hurt by this. At least not in my opinion. The crowd will still love him after this, probably even more.

The only way Bray falls from grace is if the WWE makes an effort to bury him from now on.

 

[KingLobos]

The comparisons to Sandow are ridiculous. Sandow's Money in the Bank Cash-In stood in the way of WWE's greater plans for title unification and they had to throw it away to move on with the greater story. There was no way the TLC match was going to ever be Randy Orton vs Damien Sandow, and you people are completely ignoring that fact.


This match helped Wyatt because it was a WrestleMania payday against the guy who was wrestling The Rock in the main event just a year earlier. Wyatt was undefeated on PPV in singles competition (maybe all competition) going into this, with clean wins over Daniel Bryan and Roman Reigns.

This match was all about paying back Cena and his fans for putting over Randy Orton in three consecutive PPV title matches to build him up for Daniel Bryan. If you look at the larger scene: Bryan beat Cena clean, Wyatt beat Bryan clean, Byran beat Orton and Batista clean, and Wyatt was the odd man out without a loss here. It was all about setting the equilibrium of trading wins with each other. Wyatt was due a loss, and it's better to lose to Cena than the Brooklyn Brawler.

I highly doubt this feud is over and that Wyatt isn't going to come out of this feud looking better. The Undertaker never beat the Ultimate Warrior either. This match didn't hurt Bray at all.


If you think it was just all "CENA WINS LOL" you're not looking at the bigger picture.

Cena didn't just go over. He destroyed the entire Wyatt Family single handily.

 

[x78]

This match was all about paying back Cena and his fans for putting over Randy Orton in three consecutive PPV title matches to build him up for Daniel Bryan.

If that's the case then put Cena over Sheamus or Big Show or someone. Don't feed him the hottest young heel in the business who has been built up perfectly for the best part of a year.

They don't need to 'trade wins', all of that is total bullshit. Cena hurt Wyatt's momentum and credibility with the way he won the match. He had no business winning in the manner that he did.

 

[CHIcagoMade]

This ain't some Damien Sandow random shit.

Bray Wyatt got a 1 on 1 match with John cena at Wrestlemania. They obviously have high hopes for him.

but obviously, wait until Summerslam instead of some of yall assuming shit

MIZ

 

[samizayn]

He didn't just lose the match. It was played off as, for the first time since I don't know when, John Cena was actually GOTTEN TO.

But he rose above and won because Santa is real :hb

 

[Snothlisberger]

He'll hopefully get a rematch at ER and win. But meh, kinda invalidates all the shit he was spilling. I see a future still, he did go over D Bryan clean at RR. And Bryan has been the strongest booked character in WWE for awhile now

 

[OisinS94]

Kane and Bryan did more to "elevate" Bray, the Shield helped elevate the faction as a whole.

Yesterday was just a classic Cena underdog story and Bray just happened to be on the receiving end..... the only way Cena winning would have been acceptable is if he absolutely snapped and destroyed him with the chair.

Bray definitely should have been put over in that match.

 

[Mifune Jackson]

If that's the case then put Cena over Sheamus or Big Show or someone. Don't feed him the hottest young heel in the business who has been built up perfectly for the best part of a year.

They don't need to 'trade wins', all of that is total bullshit. Cena hurt Wyatt's momentum and credibility with the way he won the match. He had no business winning in the manner that he did.

Whether they "need to" trade wins or not, it's the WWE system that we've been seeing in recent years and that's reality.

Wyatt being undefeated on PPV really stuck out and, with wins over Daniel Bryan and Roman Reigns already this year, they didn't want to feed into it and make his gimmick about being undefeated. Bray Wyatt's gimmick isn't about being the best wrestler, it's about being evil. He isn't Goldberg.

The fact that he was built up so strongly is what made him John Cena's WrestleMania opponent. Cena vs Sheamus wasn't going to fly, and wrestling Big Show is a joke. The objective of WrestleMania is to put together matches that would DRAW, and your suggestions are nowhere near as enticing as Cena vs Wyatt.

Cena went over in the way that he did because it's friggin' WrestleMania and the kids that buy John Cena merchandise pump tons of money and good was going to beat evil in this one, because good spent all year putting Randy Orton over.